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Well it can’t possibly hurt his chances. Even if it only helps a bit, I’d still say his chances are higher than they were before the remake. Square-Enix does have some other strong contenders so nothing is guaranteed.Yo, real talk.
Will the Mario RPG remake really help Geno's chances if getting in the next game? Will it finally be his turn
How would it make Villager seem less unique? There's already multiple characters who fight using more unconventional means. The AC characters are literally just as or more distinct than, say, Mario and Luigi are.
I would say we’re fine with Villager and Isabelle but I’m admittedly biased because I’ve never really been a big Animal Crossing fan. I’m open to more AC characters as long as they’re either fun or more echoes that don’t require a ton of resources. I can’t speak as to how any particular character would play never having played the series but both Villager and Isabelle are pretty fun to use on occasion.
I hope so, but how much will the remake actually help?Yo, real talk.
Will the Mario RPG remake really help Geno's chances if getting in the next game? Will it finally be his turn
I do admittedly think the decision to have Isabelle's moveset appear similar in design to Villager's (even if, mechanically and functionally, they do very different things) may have slightly shot AC in the foot going forward, but I do also think there's a lot of potential for AC characters going forward to have fundamentally unique moveset concepts.
I think the answer is yes, even if just a little bit. But I'm kinda burnt out on Geno discussion, I'd be glad to see him personally but he's too controversial of a topic for me to enjoy talking about very much. If he's in he's in but honestly, given Square Enix I don't think we'd see him until DLC comes around anyway. Assuming Nintendo wants to bring back Cloud and Hero on base roster, which I would hope they do.
I think a remake on its own might not help a ton but in combination with the fact that Geno was already pretty heavily requested and had at least some Smash appearance in the last two games may end up being pretty significant. If he didn’t already have support, I wouldn’t say it dramatically increases his chances though any new appearance does help. For comparison, Chrono Cross just got a big revamp on the Switch but because no one was really talking much about Serge beforehand or since, I’d say his chances are still pretty low.
To be honest, I kinda knew all that already, but thanks for explaining.
Yeah that’s also likely. Although complete newcomers could just as easily become Mallow fans if they aren’t really following Smash speculation and want to see him instead. Who knows.
Yeah, that can be a problem. Though I think Geno has much more fans, and even Sakurai seemed to have wanted him in at some point, so who knows?
Don't really care about new Fighters from any of those franchises. More interested in seeing new franchises represented.
Yeah, but...so what? You do the exact same crap in that series in every game. Crap that's pretty well represented by the 2 Fighters they already have.
Good. I'll just stop there and assume the rest of that post turned out great.
I mean, it'll definitely HELP. The question is if it will be ENOUGH.Will the Mario RPG remake really help Geno's chances if getting in the next game? Will it finally be his turn
I wouldn't be surprised if Smash is the reason the remake is even happening.
I'm more "interested" in new franchises too, but when discussing prospects for the next game I think it's fair to point out which series have been important over the last few years, shown a fair amount of growth and offered new material to work with that could be fresh in Sakurai / Nintendo's mind when it comes time to narrow it down. We've seen that throughout pretty much the entire series and even if it's not the most exciting thing in the world, I doubt it will stop now.
There are certainly others in the conversation for the most important missing character, but yeah Tom Nook is definitely in that upper echelon. Whether you rank him first, second, third, whatever, he should be in by now.
And that is why I posted my thoughts on if a new game would better help Geno's chances than a remake...
There's Astral Chain as well, which Nintendo now has full ownership of since January 2021. We don't know the details of why it got changed from co-ownership with Platinum, but it's officially fully owned by Nintendo now.
I'd like to see a mix of characters from new and existing franchises. Ult was definitely lacking when it came to new first party series, and I'd like to see that rectified in the next game, but there are also very many characters from existing franchises who seem overdue as well.
Series that are highly successful naturally get more invested into them. They've proven they are an asset to Nintendo and lots of people know and love their characters. I don't think it's a bad thing to give multiple characters to consistently well-performing franchises. I mean, giving smaller series a chance to be represented and make the roster more diverse is also a priority, but I believe Smash is at its best with a good balance of both.
Take a look at how many new Fire Emblem characters were added to Smash 4 and Ultimate, and compare that to how many new Zelda and Kirby characters were added in those games. Just because a franchise has a new successful game or two doesn't mean it should definitely get a new character added, when the series is potentially already well represented.
can i pay you to influence chibi-robo?Everyone saying that Tom Nook does make sense and should be added and does, in fact, feel missing...
Good. My influence is spreading
Kirby aside, since it could be due to one of Sakurai's personal hangups, I...really don't think this is as big of a counterpoint as you think. Zelda's biggest drawback seems to be following the Same Three Guys and then a rotation of side characters, and for whatever reason said side characters don't end up making the cut. I'll always maintain that we should have absolutely gotten Ghirahim back in 4, but that ship has sailed. Compare this to series like Mario which keep a mostly static cast but just has a lot of characters, or Fire Emblem and Xenoblade which have entirely new casts each time.
That's because Zelda and Kirby have their most essential cast / trios represented, and Animal Crossing does not. I think both of those series could use way more than just their essentials but, outside of arguably Bandana Dee, they don't have anyone left in their own series as synonymous as Tom Nook is for Animal Crossing. And Bandana Dee is just his own can of worms altogether... I put him in the aforementioned Toad category.
I mean if we're talking about what should happen, then it's hard to argue against Zelda getting more characters, and Kirby could use some more representation as well. In particular I think revamping the Zelda roster should be a priority next time. They're not the only series that could use more, though.
I'm not sure exactly how much it helps, but it's definitely good for him. I'd say the big thing to look at is if Geno can start sneaking his way into spin-offs. If he gets in Mario Kart 10 and stuff like that, then yeah he's like inevitably going to snowball his way into Smash lol. If not, it's still plausible but I wouldn't write him in as a lock or anything either.Yo, real talk.
Will the Mario RPG remake really help Geno's chances if getting in the next game? Will it finally be his turn
It wouldnt have made sense, New leaf came out long after Smash 4's roster was decided.
I don't agree, but I do think that Isabelle is a more essential part of the roster than Villager. I think there's plenty of room for them both though.
Plenty of series are quite redundant to add onto right now. Ultimately though, in Smash we're asking for characters first. Tom Nook is not just an important element of Animal Crossing, he is also just a beloved character from a series that many people like. We as the Smash community tend to underestimate the casual audience of friends who will pick cute silly characters on the roster from the games they've played - the novelty of Tom Nook being on the roster is one that will resonate with more people than ever after the success of New Horizons.
Not exactly a fair thing, i consider myself a pretty dedicated Animal crossing fan, i spent countless hours on these games (Except new horizons mind you but there were other games catching my attention at the time)
Fair enough then, sorry for making that assumption. I do believe it applies to many fans though, those who are more inclined toward action oriented characters or may be somewhat stuck in the past and having trouble accepting Animal Crossing as one of Nintendo's biggest success stories as of late.
I disagree when it comes to some of the remaining options.
Crucify is way too strong but...isn't Villager the character you always play in Animal Crossing? I don't think it makes sense to have another character in his/her place.
Why do you think Isabelle is a more essential part of the roster than Villager?
Well it boils down to what you value more. Personally, I feel more satisfied having more of a defined character in Smash. Isabelle is effectively the series mascot and she is a personality that players latched onto. We like and have developed a connection with Isabelle because of her character.
I don’t have any issues with the amount of Fire Emblem characters in Smash. I think people often overlook the fact that half the characters are variants of some kind, thus taking up a lot fewer resources than a unique newcomer. Ideally (in my opinion), we’d have a few more varied movesets using different weapons but it’s totally understandable that they chose this approach to save development time for other characters.
Fire emblem is also a series with hundreds of characters to chose from, it would honesty be unfair to only have a rep from one or two games.
My compromise would be to have Robin as the sole Awakening rep in Sm4sh and Ultimate and have Chrom and Lucina appear in Robin’s Final Smash depending on which gender you pick.
