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I wouldn’t say this case is too special. They did the raid for the easy Year of the Rabbit promotion and I imagine we'll get the other two Starters somewhere down the road similar to how Cinderace followed Charizard.
Pokemon Scarlet & Violet Has A Cinderace Raid On The Way
Pokemon Scarlet & Violet are getting a new raid, and it's a seven-star Cinderace.www.gamespot.com
So like, I remember cinderace being discussed in the old thread, and now this so maybe he's still possible?
This is pretty much where I stand, with one small caveat. Discussing whatever ideas or characters you want is awesome: just have realistic expectations at the end of the day.
Zack honestly is such a natural echo, if they go all in on the idea he just makes sense to appear. They are also pushing Zack again with Crisis Core and who knows how Remake will turn out.
Whether 3 characters is too excessive (for, I assume, a third-party series) or not, next time around Chun Li is going to be a pretty popular request, despite already having Ryu and Hatless Terry.
That one wouldn't bother me, Street fighter is always the series that's over-represented in every crossover it's in, it would be weird if Smash didn't eventually get more street fighter stuff lol
And you can use the same description for Simon and Richter because lorewise Cloud is copying all of Zack's moves, so who's the real echo in this instance.
Just getting any classic SEGA arcade music in Smash would be lovely. We do already have After Burner, but there's so much other great stuff from that era. The Space Harrier theme, the OutRun soundtrack, Outride a Crisis, Opa-Opa!, Quartet Theme, Beyond the Galaxy, the list goes on. If you wanna get into the 90s, there's stuff like the Daytona OST, In the Blue Sky, Desert Replay from the Saturn port of SEGA Rally, etc.
Oh yeah, definitely. While I think it’s great to dream big and never lose hope, it’s also important to keep your expectations in check and not assume a character is a given just because you want it to be so. Whenever I talk about my dream picks, I usually try to preface it by bringing up the fact that I’m not exactly expecting them. I do try to mention some reasons why I think they’re at least possible with the exception of my complete pipe dream of Zegram Ghart from Rogue Galaxy that has as close to no chance as you can get.
I think Zack can easily be last minute addition and doesn’t really take anyone spot
It's pretty telling that in a roster of 89 characters where we had 24 newcomers to the series, only 2 were from western companies (and from the same one, even!). And out of these 2, one was highly voted for in the ballot while the other came from the best selling game in the world.
Pretty assumptive of you to jump to the conclusion that my candy crush/COD argument was directed towards western representation when the context initially was about sales numbers, but i digress. Most of my points to gengar already applies to your arguments.
True, but those two characters were both from the most recent game, hence why I suggested the possibility of a shift towards considering more characters beyond just those created in Japan. Not that it will necessarily happen but I think it’s definitely possible.
Seems like a bunch of self-fulfilling prophetic navel-gazing to me. Just lazy argumentation based on precedent and a fairly transparent attempt at rationalizing your bias for Japanese video games.
I didn't have to assume anything because it was obviously uncharitable for its own sake. My post was literally about Grand Theft Auto having a very similar claim to Minecraft but you immediately went for unrequested/unpopular (within the context of Smash spec) franchises to dismiss the notion of sales mattering in a conversation about Nintendo's motives with regard to their character selection for this game. If this argument works for Minecraft then I don't see why it doesn't apply to Grand Theft Auto. I think comparing Grand Theft Auto with its wealth of contributions to gaming culture to something like Candy Crush is absurd. Call of Duty at least has that too so it's a more fair comparison it's just simply a problem with Call of Duty's character pool. If Call of Duty can establish a defined original character that is beloved by AT LEAST its own community then sure I'd absolutely agree that the worthiness of this hypothetical character's inclusion would be indisputable.
I feel like I’m one of the only people who’s a huge Nintendo fan but also really loves Blizzard’s characters and worlds. There’s just something about their style that really appeals to me. I’ve just always loved that general style but I could never put it into words to describe it. Other games I love the style of include League of Legends, Darksiders, and Legacy of Kain. Not sure if there’s really a name for that general style. It’s nice to see that I’m not the only one around here that thinks a Blizzard character would be cool in Smash. I always thought I was alone in that one (provided they actually work towards improving their toxic work environment).
It's hardly just their bias. Smash is CLEARLY biased towards Japanese games. It'd be insane to pretend otherwise.
It does make sense that Smash would have a preference towards Japanese games, seeing that Nintendo is a Japanese company. I never expect western newcomers to overtake Japanese newcomers at any point but I don’t think it’s out of the question that we could start seeing more representation than we have historically. Banjo and Steve show that they are at least on the table. Since they were both introduced late into the series so close together, I don’t think it’s unreasonable to look at this as a potential shift in Nintendo being more open to further western characters.
I know the broad strokes of Crisis core's plot but this is my first time actually playing it, so far Zack is a pretty cool protagonist.
Your going to make a list lik this and not include the theme of the best Pokemon character?
i feel like you've not encountered a number of the FF protags
Does the Nintendo Co., Ltd. (the OG Japanese company) has knowledge of games that only it's American subsidiary released like StarTropics or Kirby's Avalanche?
Speak for yourself. I’ve never actually cared about the main League of Legends MOBA game but I do really like their character designs and the Arcane show was really good. I’ve also recently bought the RPG The Forgotten King on Switch and I’m enjoying it so far.
It's questionable, considering StarTropics didn't even get acknowledged in Smash Bros, alongside some other Western-developed games like TinStar, Geist, etc. And then there are some Western-developed games acknowledged by them, like Metroid Prime, Luigi's Mansion 2 & 3, Punch Out Wii, etc, but those ones were already part of existing Japanese-developed franchises.
There's the EAB trophy in Brawl bit that's it.
I mean, I pointed it out long ago, but a reminder or two of how notable the Western representation is in Smash Ultimate compared to past Smash Bros. games is not un-needed.
Controversial opinion but after marathoning the Metroid series, I feel like Raven Beak is so significantly better of a villain than Ridley ever was. Would definitely take him in Smash.
Nice! Delzethin’s movesets are always fun and interesting. I’ll have to take a look at this video when I get the chance. I personally slightly prefer EMMI as a Dread rep but Raven Beak makes a lot of sense too and would be great to see.
Man I hope at least a decent amount of Japanese players are gonna play the Sparks of hope DLC. I'm still a optimist thinking Rayman can get in eventually but gaining some traction in Japan would be great
This is obviously very true but I still don't think that necessarily translates to a stigma against western IPs and games. It's just easier and more natural to do business in your own country and work with material (Japanese IPs) that you're more accustomed to by this nature.
A very underrated choice and one I tend to forget myself. In a way it's a shame there are so many Metroid fighters now, cause Raven Beak would be great to have and really fitting.
On the other hand, Sakurai said working with Microsoft was easier than Square Enix.
Rayman and Rabbids are treated as their own thing by Ubisoft too. It's why they're entirely separated in Smash.
