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I guess they'll just have to fix it by adding Boney.The moment Lucas is cut everyone will be like man Earthbound rep is LACKING.
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I guess they'll just have to fix it by adding Boney.The moment Lucas is cut everyone will be like man Earthbound rep is LACKING.
in an ideal scenario we’d have Lucas and BoneyI guess they'll just have to fix it by adding Boney.
If they snub out Mother 3 content entirely, yeah.The moment Lucas is cut everyone will be like man Earthbound rep is LACKING.
It would be cool to see mech porky back as a boss.mech Porky were to return as a boss
Well, Lucas is a significant portion (the 50%) of the playable Mother content after all.The moment Lucas is cut everyone will be like man Earthbound rep is LACKING.
Funny. I had an odd dream last night involving an old Smash too.I had a dream last night that Zael from The Last Story and Elena from Pandora’s Tower were DLC fighters in Smash 4.
Battlefield, Final Destination, and Temple.Ya know, we all have a perception of what characters a Smash game can't really go without (original 12 + Marth and such), but when talking about rebooting the stage list, I don't think we've ever discussed what that looks like for stages.
So what do you guys think are Super Smash Bros.'s stages classics? I'll start with:
These are all stages that have had nearly perfect attendance (SSB3DS drops most of them because they wanted to diversify the two stage lists in SSB4) throughout the series since SSBM. Not the best metric since most people aren't exactly rooting for the return of stages like Jungle Japes, and it's definitely SSBB erasure, but it's a good starting point I think.
- Battlefield
- Final Destination
- Temple
- Brinstar
- Sector Z/Corneria
- Jungle Japes
- Onett
- Pokémon Stadium/Pokémon Stadium 2
- Yoshi's Island (Melee)
That wouldn't make any sense, though. Bringing all that content that comes from Mother 3 but cut a playable character that also came from it? I think that would sting more than you think. Nothing can make up for a playable appearance.If they snub out Mother 3 content entirely, yeah.
If they bring back New Pork City, and if bed mech Porky were to return as a boss or something, then it would sting a bit less. I'm sure at least most of the music will return, lol. Both Assist Trophies are from EB already, and the items. So Earthbound in particular is likely to stay well represented, but if we see a more major content shift where most stages and an amount music are phased out then I can see myself being disappointed with the scope of the full series content.
Not factoring in a brand new stage, I'd probably bring back Magicant and New Pork City and cover most of our bases that way. If they brought in someone like Kumatora or Duster as an Assist Trophy in Lucas' wake then I'd be more than satisfied.
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What does you thinks of shiren the wanderer as a newcomer?
Basically what i wanna see is this:I almost want to see Temple reworked. Not completely, as it's far from a bad stage layout, but as the one stage they often bring back, its art direction is really starting to show its age. Maybe something as minor as a slight aesthetic tweak, or maybe even enemies and NPCs in the background, could be enough to fix the repetition, but as is, I feel less compelled to play it every time they bring it back point for point.
I mean, I can speak on my own personal behalf about how much it would sting for me. Mother 3 is literally my favorite game of all time, so I'm not ignorant to how special it is. If you would be more upset by it, I understand and that's your prerogative. I'm just expressing how I understand cuts need to be made, I realize Lucas is expendable - he's been cut before, I'm prepared for it - and I hope at the very least Mother 3 will continue to be acknowledged in some way or another.That wouldn't make any sense, though. Bringing all that content that comes from Mother 3 but cut a playable character that also came from it? I think that would sting more than you think. Nothing can make up for a playable appearance.
Lucas has been in all games since his debut. He's never missed out, so this would be a first if that happened. And I know you're speaking on your own behalf but keep in mind that Earthbound is a small series and Nintendo still hasn't localized Mother 3, despite fans wanting it. Now if Smash goes from two reps to one, I wouldn't blame the fanbase if they feel that Nintendo disrespected them and the series. That's why I said I think it would sting more than you think.I mean, I can speak on my own personal behalf about how much it would sting for me. Mother 3 is literally my favorite game of all time, so I'm not ignorant to how special it is. If you would be more upset by it, I understand and that's your prerogative. I'm just expressing how I understand cuts need to be made, I realize Lucas is expendable - he's been cut before, I'm prepared for it - and I hope at the very least Mother 3 will continue to be acknowledged in some way or another.
A playable character is the fullest extent a game can be represented but I can live with one Mother character - I just want them to keep the content diverse, and not just go all in on Earthbound / Mother 2. Under those conditions that seems like a pretty reasonable wish. Obviously I'd rather keep Lucas.
Uh, base game Smash 4 ring a bell?Lucas has been in all games since his debut. He's never missed out, so this would be a first if that happened.
If he made it as DLC, then he's in the game, obviously. What game do you think that DLC was for?Uh, base game Smash 4 ring a bell?
I know cuts are a difficult subject, but speaking as a fan… I would blame people for taking this as some deep disrespect, yes. I think coming at a character like Lucas with this amount of entitlement, that him being absent is a straight up personal disrespect, is just not a good idea. Difficult cuts have to be made, it's not implausible for Lucas to be one of them. Hence why I said I hope Mother 3 at least would continue to have a fair bit of content outside of the roster, like a stage, boss and music, because it would acknowledge the game despite the potential sacrifice. If we maintained some of this content and Lucas did not come back, assuming we lost like 20 characters, I would be sad for a moment, understand why that happened and appreciate that Mother 3 still has a presence in the game.Now if Smash goes from two reps to one, I wouldn't blame the fanbase if they feel that Nintendo disrespected them and the series. That's why I said I think it would sting more than you think.
I can appreciate this mindset, but imho it's way more likely that they just bring back Lucas as opposed to his stage, his music and even Porky's boss fight of all things, but not him.I know cuts are a difficult subject, but speaking as a fan… I would blame people for taking this as some deep disrespect, yes. I think coming at a character like Lucas with this amount of entitlement, that him being absent is a straight up personal disrespect, is just not a good idea. Difficult cuts have to be made, it's not implausible for Lucas to be one of them. Hence why I said I hope Mother 3 at least would continue to have a fair bit of content outside of the roster, like a stage, boss and music, because it would acknowledge the game despite the potential sacrifice. If we maintained some of this content and Lucas did not come back, assuming we lost like 20 characters, I would be sad for a moment, understand why that happened and appreciate that Mother 3 still has a presence in the game.
I said it would “sting a bit less” than Mother 3 content being snubbed altogether. I don’t think that’s unreasonable to say. We need to be mature about the future of the series, and I don't think all or nothing is a very good mindset to have. Implying it's pointless to bring back a stage or boss if we don't have a playable character doesn't make a whole lot of sense, because at least we would still have something. This is not at all me advocating for Lucas to be cut, it's me trying to be practical about the hand we may be dealt and wish for some consolation under that circumstance.
Seeing Breath of Fire in a lot of the lists brings a smile to my face, but this:I'm surprised this hasn't been posted yet.
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You can tell the results were weighed by online movements to signal boost certain games in the hopes that this is an elaborate Capcom **** Test, but they're pretty interesting nonetheless. X being the third most requested character overall was pretty cool.
If we were to get a Fortnite character, I have to imagine it would be a Bowser Jr or Hero situation. They would be called "The Looper" or something to that effect, Jonesy would be the lead slot, and every alternate costume would be a different skin. They could easily do the eight defaults, but I think a more intresting lineup would be something likeIf you knew a Fortnite character was getting in smash 6. Would you rather Jonesy or Peely?
Yeah, this is very cool indeed - I got very excited when I first heard they were sharing the results. I also agree that it's frustrating when that sort of brigading takes place - it really annoys me seeing how people just voted for Dino Crisis in every category in hopes of sending a message to Capcom. It skews the results and is generally just an obnoxious attitude - like, we get it, dude. That's what the sequel question is for. If you're not even willing to engage with the rest of the poll in an honest manner and are just here to screech about your favorite series needing to come back, I think you're doing a disservice. IDK, this is probably only so bothersome to me, but as someone who really enjoys these kinds of poll results and having solid data on what's popular, stuff like this just makes my OCD-ass brain flare up. It's happened with some SEGA polls too in the past, and it just irks me everytime it happens.I'm surprised this hasn't been posted yet.
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Welcome to the Capcom Town Capcom Super Elections. The results are in for Capcom Super Elections: Ten questions for Capcom fans!captown.capcom.com
Capcom released the results of their Super Election Poll, including people's favourite Capcom games, franchises, and characters. They also break the results down by gender, age, and international location.
You can tell the results were weighed by online movements to signal boost certain games in the hopes that this is an elaborate Capcom **** Test, but they're pretty interesting nonetheless. X being the third most requested character overall was pretty cool.
If you're a fan, then you really can't blame them for that. Mario, Pokemon, and Fire Emblem, much larger series, have several characters that wouldn't surprise anyone if they get cut but Earthbound, a much smaller series, only has just two and THAT gets cut? I mean, I'm not even a fan and even I would feel dissed. Adding other content from Mother 3 is not going to make up that the main character is no longer playable now. You said it yourself that it you would be sad for a moment and it would sting at little but that's the point; no fan wants to be stung at all. No fan wants to be sad at all. Losing a playable character is an experience nobody wants to go through and people would understandably be upset if they do.I know cuts are a difficult subject, but speaking as a fan… I would blame people for taking this as some deep disrespect, yes. I think coming at a character like Lucas with this amount of entitlement, that him being absent is a straight up personal disrespect, is just not a good idea. Difficult cuts have to be made, it's not implausible for Lucas to be one of them. Hence why I said I hope Mother 3 at least would continue to have a fair bit of content outside of the roster, like a stage, boss and music, because it would acknowledge the game despite the potential sacrifice. If we maintained some of this content and Lucas did not come back, assuming we lost like 20 characters, I would be sad for a moment, understand why that happened and appreciate that Mother 3 still has a presence in the game.
Yeah, Okami being the top 1 favorite game for Japan in particular is very impressive - they friggin' love that game over thereOkami was the most pleasant surprise for me. Don't think it means Amaterasu's necessarily popping up in Smash or anything, but a sequel with today's hardware could be amazing. A well promoted follow up on the Switch 2 could do very solid numbers in Japan alone.
Yeah... come to think of it, usually when a fighter gets cut, most extra content tied specifically to them perishes as well. When Ice Climbers "went on vacation" in Smash 4, their home stage disappeared with them too. We also lost Great Bay when Young Link got x'd from Brawl and yeah, we already lost New Pork the first time Lucas got x'd.I can appreciate this mindset, but imho it's way more likely that they just bring back Lucas as opposed to his stage, his music and even Porky's boss fight of all things, but not him.
Then I don't think you should speak for them. Sorry, but this kind of shot down your argument here. I am a fan, I've played the game, I've adored it for a decade. It doesn't feel right for someone who doesn't feel that way to lecture me on this.I mean, I'm not even a fan and even I would feel dissed.
Fair enough, although I personally don't think it's like that. Music is easy to bring back, and a stage can exist independent of a character. The Porky fight is based on Mother 3, but Porky is still a villain in Earthbound so I don't think it's something that would need to hinge on Lucas. But agree to disagree I suppose.I can appreciate this mindset, but imho it's way more likely that they just bring back Lucas as opposed to his stage, his music and even Porky's boss fight of all things, but not him.
Look, neither Ness or Lucas have ever actually been cut, so it's not like you can speak from experience of how you would deal them missing out. Now you're saying fans just keep their mouths shut and just accept defeat if it happens? Heck no!Then I don't think you should speak for them. Sorry, but this kind of shot down your argument here. I am a fan, I've played the game, I've adored it for a decade. It doesn't feel right for someone who doesn't feel that way to lecture me on this.
I know it not popular in the west and have a small fanbase in the west. But when i looked out japanese people love to see him and the game is really popular in japan and influence dungeon games. Spike chunsoft the company behind shiren the wanderer help Nintendo and game freak to create pokemon mystery dungeon. I like the games for it difficulty and the charms of the music.
You keep saying this like Lucas was available at launch. We didn’t know he would be playable until the following April. From October until then (and I had literally just played Mother 3 that summer, so I was especially passionate about it) he was as good as gone, as far as we were aware. So yeah, I was there for that and it was fine. They added other characters that I liked and I was content.Look, neither Ness or Lucas have ever actually been cut, so it's not like you can speak from experience of how you would deal them missing out.
It also wasn't long before Lucas was confirmed for DLC (which we did know was coming), so that still doesn't tell us anything. Simply not knowing he wasn't coming doesn't count. He's either in the game at some point, or he's not in the game at all.You keep saying this like Lucas was available at launch. We didn’t know he would be playable until the following April. From October until then (and I had literally just played Mother 3 that summer, so I was especially passionate about it) he was as good as gone, as far as we were aware. So yeah, I was there for that and it was fine. They added other characters that I liked and I was content.
I’m not saying any other fans should do anything. I’m saying I personally don’t want to be the guy who kicks and screams over a character I like getting cut, when I know substantial cuts are likely. Maybe if it was a full series being outright removed I would be angry, but as long as Ness is still here I’ll live.
“Accept defeat” is a weird way to frame this too. How do you want me to react? If I’m disappointed about a cut, I’ll rally for them to be DLC or come back next game. Not a whole lot I can do about it otherwise, and no use hounding Nintendo about it especially if my character isn’t the only one we had to lose.
No chance. Can you imagine a Smash game without Temple, Corneria and Delfino Plaza to name a few? I can't.
Bro forgot that Smash Remix exists.Yeah.
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We had all of October - March to be upset Lucas wasn’t in the game. We didn’t know how DLC was being handled past Mewtwo and we didn’t know Lucas would be a part of it. For that period of time Lucas fans knew how that felt, and learned to deal with it and find joy in other characters. This is a ridiculous argument so I’m going to cut it off here.Simply not knowing he wasn't coming doesn't count. He's either in the game at some point, or he's not in the game at all.
Hence why I’m prepared to lose one. And yes I can blame people if they choose to react in an immature, spiteful way. I’m an adult and I know these decisions are not personal. Sakurai has shown the game a tremendous amount of love up to this point, and I am grateful for that. It doesn’t retroactively mean he hates Mother 3 and its fans if it doesn’t last forever.it's very fortunate that it even has two reps.
I don’t know, I guess I would be frustrated if every single bit of content was removed. There’s no reason for them to go in and remove Mother 3 music, so if that happened that would feel insulting. But unless we’re getting a totally revised soundtrack this doesn’t typically happen.In addition to that, you're talking about adding other Mother 3 content to the game without Lucas but what if that doesn't happen? What if all that gets cut with Lucas? And it really makes no sense to bring all that without Lucas. So...I can't picture the chances of that happening anyway.