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These changes are outside the realm of possibility for an echo fighter. This is a Melee clone which would require balancing against the entire cast.
I think you can get away with one unique move as an echo. Chrom is basically a Roy echo with Ike’s up special. Thats why I suggested just giving him the surfboard as a unique attack while everything else is aesthetic.
I thought Fortine was very likely during FP2, as Chapter 1 just finished when FP2 was decided (Aparently the characters were decided around November 2019), basically Fortnite was at his peak, yet they didn't include it.
Would be better as an alt costume, I think.
No. Alt costume at best.
In my mind, the ideal Echo Fighter has two things:
how are they rivals? they have completely opposing goals
The Yiga are former Sheikah clan members, so their fighting styles are mostly similar.
that’s not what rivalries are
Yep, something similar happened to me. "We Like Fortnite" and other YouTube memes didn't help matters.
Nah
No no no, that wasn’t Carbuncle, that was “Has Bean”. They’re totally different.
A gem on the marks really marks the difference.
Interesting Pick!
Not too late to turn back
lol I definitely do not have enough time to regularly post on a forum like this either way, it is what it is.Not too late to turn back
I think that the term was invented just to avoid fan backlash to 6 out of the 11 base game newcomers being clones, considering that the reputation of clones in this community is quite negative.
That's a good point. Blocks are a big reason that Steve drives people nuts, and Fortnite's building mechanics would functionally be the same thing on a projectile zoner.
Jonesy, he and Peely (The anthropomorphic Bananna man) are the games mascots.
The MAin issue i have would be riju and thats for one reason:hey this is my first post and I don't really know how to break the ice, so I'm just gonna post my fanmade roster lol. I think it's kind of funny how we apparently all just feel it in our bones that Smash stuff is happening within a year or two, and it's surprising how active this forum still is.
This isn't really an actual roster, I obviously don't think we'd get this many new characters. I'm approaching it basically in the sense of like, characters I think have a notable shot for the next Smash in terms of having something going for them while still being characters Nintendo would realistically be willing to add. Essentially if I was Sakurai and Nintendo was looking over me as I was picking the next characters, what would be my shortlist of characters I think are worth adding, and then out of these picking a handful to be the full lineup. Also assume I've absorbed Sakurai's personality and memories to perfectly disguise myself as him so Harada doesn't notice his friend has been replaced and kill me while not fixing Tekken 8's matchmaking or battle pass.
I'm also approaching it in the sense of it being an Ultimate Deluxe, just because otherwise it would involve cuts and that'd be a whole separate discussion that I think would warrant its own post, and I feel like in that case newcomers would partially serve as a way to fill lost archetypes. If you lost Incineroar for example, I think it'd be important to add another grab-focused heavyweight character with a side special command grab and damage buffs but weak neutral, because that's an important playstyle that most closely aligns with traditional grapplers, and with how unexpected a lot of the playstyles can be for even popularly requested newcomers who get in, I think that's more difficult to judge.
Definitely heavy on the third-parties, I wanted to get a few picks I don't think you see as much. It would be boring if it was the same roster as everybody else's and I think a lot of these characters are just worth talking about. Like I said, I think for an actual game, only a handful of these would be picked. I didn't really try to heavily divide between DLC and base game, because it's somewhat arbitrary beyond DLC obviously needing to sell and generally focusing on new mechanics, and it seems like characters like Hero would have been base game anyways had Sakurai and the dev team had enough time to get them in. If I were to divide, I'd say basically every first party pick except Takamaru could work as DLC and be able to sell, while also still fitting in as base game characters, while for the third parties, I could see Doomguy, Akira, Rayman, and maybe Geno being base game. Also no echoes because I just don't have as much to say there.
Here's the explanations if you're at all interested, I tried to briefly suggest what their playstyle could be like for most of them. These explanations ended up being fairly long and I spent a few hours writing them all, so if you're interested you can just skip to whichever character you're curious about.
I ended up writing way way too much lol, so I hope someone reads at least some of what I wrote. I think there's a lot of interesting options to discuss in general and a lot of directions a new Smash could go.
Dark Meta Knight should be a Meta Knight alt costume.
That I'm a bit more hesitant on. It would be pretty confusing to casual players without a lot of visual cues, and in terms of balance and implementation, there's just so many problems: How do you tackle the difference in power granted by high and low BPM songs like Kapp'n's Song and The Roost? What happens for weird rhythms like the waltzey beat in Marx's theme? How do you handle rhythm changes like when the stage morph feature changes the music. How do you handle items like the Super Star that lower the music's volume in favor of their musical sound effect? What kind of BPM do you set for "songs" like Electroplankton or Environmental Noises?
You did mention Portal and that's a HL spinoff that's on the Switch (fun fact: the Portal collection has every single model and texture from HL2 hidden in its files)
They should add meow skulls in that case
I mean, for one, Portal in on Switch, which takes place in the Half-Life universe. For two, Sakurai had big praise for Half-Life 2.
And let's be honest, a re-creation of Half-Life 2's opening with G-Man talking to Gordon Freeman before sending him to the Super Smash Bros. universe would be wild, especially if Valve themselves helped recreate the trailer.
And then there’s also that it’s just annoying to play.
