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Yeah, as much as I enjoy the series, it isn’t at the top of my own most wanted Square-Enix games for Smash either. I’d rather see Chrono or Octopath first but Star Ocean might be right after them. I’m currently playing Triangle Strategy so I’d love to see a character like Frederica Aesfrost make it in but I feel she probably has an even lower chance than a Star Ocean character right now. If the game gets a few sequels then maybe.
perhaps in the XC4 they should use scots slang. although they'd have to up the age rating
Oh yeah, i could see Granblue Fantasy getting in, even though it might sound a bit weird/strange to think about, Nintendo might be interested in partnership with Cygames because of the mobile market, Re:Link seems like it sold pretty well as well.
Because XBC was a niche game that didn't sell all that exceptionally. I think that's pretty much all there is to it.
So, when Shulk was added, Sakurai stated that he wasn't the kind of character they would usually add.
It's hard to imagine that considering Xenoblade's status now, but why do you think Sakurai said that back then?
like earthbound
Yeah, i could see Disgaea happening, it's on a similar page with Ys and Rune Factory they're "smaller" series that are overlooked because they're not from publishers like Namco or Square Enix, but they have a dedicated fanbase and enough merits of their own to join.
That's a big maybe. Cause Nintendo did team up with Cygames to make Dragalia Lost and supposedly, Cygames had issues with Nintendo being rather uptight regarding Dragalia Lost and felt they could've made more revenue had Nintendo let them, although some say that Nintendo was keeping Cygames from pushing aggressive monetisation onto Dragalia Lost.
Do you mean like the hack n' slash genre?
Yeah I suppose. I’m not 100% sure what games fall into hack n’ slash but the name sounds about right.
I bought the first Neptunia game but I couldn’t really get into it for some reason. That’s probably another game like Earthbound that I never gave enough of a chance. I think if a game’s art style and character designs don’t click with me, it’s harder for me to get into. I have heard great things from people that love the series though.
It's basically beat'em ups with weapons (like swords or some kind of blades). Musou is probably the best example of that.
Yes, exactly like Earthbound. You can be glad that both those series are in Smash while acknowledging that they're both niche. I wasn't trying to take a dig at XBC, if that was what you were insinuating.
I think it's possible. Disgaea sits in a bit of an oddball category, it's not totally obscure but it would likely sit amongst the lowest selling third parties on the roster and doesn't quite have the extra element that someone like Bayonetta or Banjo has to push them above. I think the best move is if they want to collaborate with NIS in a meaningful way, and if that were the case then someone like Laharl or even Prinny is a pretty obvious step from there.
It's a bit of a silly quote in retrospect, but Shulk was pretty lucky. Sakurai decided to hedge his bets on a standalone RPG with a questionable series future that had just barely received an English translation at the time of the project plan, and was probably clocking in somewhere under a million copies sold. As mentioned before, I think the Mother series is the only other that can be said to be as fortunate as Xenoblade and even so Earthbound definitely got a little bit of a bump being developed by HAL. Xenoblade's status within Nintendo's greater priorities or brand was yet to be seen, but I guess the game resonated with and inspired Sakurai to such an extent that its quality and characterization felt like enough validation for a playable character on its own.
So, when Shulk was added, Sakurai stated that he wasn't the kind of character they would usually add.
It's hard to imagine that considering Xenoblade's status now, but why do you think Sakurai said that back then?
more pointing out there was already a precedent for niche RPGs in smash at that time which makes me wonder if that what sak was thinking
In fairness, Sakurai didn't say Shulk was the only instance of that kind of character, just that they didn't usually add them. Smash 64 was 15 years prior and from Ness up until Shulk I'd say we didn't really experience something like that again. You could argue Fire Emblem, but that feels like another situation entirely where it was a series that had already formed a reputation over the course of a decade and was simply locked overseas.
I'd love to look into any series about the console wars.
I always took it that he's anime as ****. Laser swords, giant robots, future sight, metal soundtrack, all that kind of stuff.
So, when Shulk was added, Sakurai stated that he wasn't the kind of character they would usually add.
It's hard to imagine that considering Xenoblade's status now, but why do you think Sakurai said that back then?
I think most DLC third party characters from Smash 6's Fighter Passes will be from bigger series like for example: Tales, Crash Bandicoot, Resident Evil, Nier, Rayman, Ninja Gaiden Like a Dragon, Puyo Puyo, Borderlands....etc, but i could see them giving a more "niche" 3rd party propiety like Ys, Rune Factory, Disgaea, Atelier, Katamari, No More Heroes or even a big indie like Undertale a chance once in awhile, it's just not something i'd expect to happen very often, but i don't think it's as impossible as people claim.
Reimu is a really interesting character to discuss about.
Maybe it's just where I hang out but I see western Touhou fans - besides myself - everywhere I look online, honestly. Even if I'm just scrolling through some random place and browsing and whatnot. They're bloody inescapable.
A Mii Costume doesn't sound too out of place. You could have the Crewmate be a Brawler and the Imposter as a Swordfighter using the knife from killing another Crewmate. Heck, because of the Mii Gunner being modified to be more a one-handed gunner, allowing more simple firearms to be used for costumes like with Fallout Boy and Doom Guy, you could have a Crewmate costume where they use the gun from killing another Crewmate as well.
I think if it's just a spirits or assist trophies, relevancy doesn't matter that much. I think it could get representation considering the game popularity. Last I check the game was still fairly popular, it's obviously far from where the game was in 2020 but I'd argue it's much more popular than other indie games I often see mentionned in this thread such as Pizza tower or Cave story.
I consider CAGs like God of War or Devil May Cry to be the successors to the Beat-em-up genre. The linear level structure as opposed to the open battlefield nature of Musou games makes them a closer fit.
As an indie character, I think she's more likely to show up as a Mii Costume. Ideally one that comes with a song track.
She'll bring a lot of music not only from the games and Smash remixes, but also from the Doujin circles.
While I like the sound of that that sounds like copyright hell. The latter bit, that is. More because of vagueness and uncertainty of rights than stinginess, mind.
That was just an XC3 thing. It made sense in universe to use ‘spark’ or ‘snuff’, but I don’t see it sticking for future entries.
There's also Undertale that's popular in Japan, is likely Nintendo might be more interested in the Undertale brand than the Touhou brand to sell DLC and has the official game on the Switch, in terms of Indie reps.
I'm a hardcore Mario Kart fan what are you talking about
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It better. I bet the life of my firstborn child on more Undertale content in the next game.
I don't even like the game, but no meaningful impact? The game had many crossover including big game like Halo and Ratchet & Clank, it was easily one of the biggest internet meme of the 2020s, and there's even an animated show coming. The game also spawned a few clones like Fortnite impostors mode or Goose goose duck.
