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Would it be a good idea to just have a thread sorta like RTC, but for just trying to sell you on a character? As in, every couple days, it would cycle through characters, describe who they are, what they could bring, how they would play, etc. I think it would be a cool way to try and introduce people to new characters and games, since RTC is mainly focused on the rating, with the wants being more of a side thing.
 

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Would it be a good idea to just have a thread sorta like RTC, but for just trying to sell you on a character? As in, every couple days, it would cycle through characters, describe who they are, what they could bring, how they would play, etc. I think it would be a cool way to try and introduce people to new characters and games, since RTC is mainly focused on the rating, with the wants being more of a side thing.
Oooh, I like your thinking!
 

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Would it be a good idea to just have a thread sorta like RTC, but for just trying to sell you on a character? As in, every couple days, it would cycle through characters, describe who they are, what they could bring, how they would play, etc. I think it would be a cool way to try and introduce people to new characters and games, since RTC is mainly focused on the rating, with the wants being more of a side thing.
that could be pretty fun
 

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Would it be a good idea to just have a thread sorta like RTC, but for just trying to sell you on a character? As in, every couple days, it would cycle through characters, describe who they are, what they could bring, how they would play, etc. I think it would be a cool way to try and introduce people to new characters and games, since RTC is mainly focused on the rating, with the wants being more of a side thing.
I like this idea, but allow me to play devil's advocate. I worry about such a thread's capacity to stay on topic and not devolve into character arguments since they're covering either unpopular or unlikely characters. I think there'd need to be a good amount of policing on such a thread for it to work properly.
 

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Would it be a good idea to just have a thread sorta like RTC, but for just trying to sell you on a character? As in, every couple days, it would cycle through characters, describe who they are, what they could bring, how they would play, etc. I think it would be a cool way to try and introduce people to new characters and games, since RTC is mainly focused on the rating, with the wants being more of a side thing.
I love this idea. This way people will talk about different characters instead of the usual 10 or so.

And it will allow me to gush over Crypto and get him more fans.
 

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Would it be a good idea to just have a thread sorta like RTC, but for just trying to sell you on a character? As in, every couple days, it would cycle through characters, describe who they are, what they could bring, how they would play, etc. I think it would be a cool way to try and introduce people to new characters and games, since RTC is mainly focused on the rating, with the wants being more of a side thing.
Fantastic idea! Having a dedicated place for everyone to gush over underdogs and overlooked characters would be a lot of fun. It would require well-written instructions to avoid it descending into "Couldn't X be represented by Y instead" arguments, but I'd be super into it if it can be pulled off.
 

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Fantastic idea! Having a dedicated place for everyone to gush over underdogs and overlooked characters would be a lot of fun. It would require well-written instructions to avoid it descending into "Couldn't X be represented by Y instead" arguments, but I'd be super into it if it can be pulled off.
I'm sure @Sari might have a field day contributing to that!
 

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I like this idea, but allow me to play devil's advocate. I worry about such a thread's capacity to stay on topic and not devolve into character arguments since they're covering either unpopular or unlikely characters. I think there'd need to be a good amount of policing on such a thread for it to work properly.
Fair point. As a couple others have mentioned, there should be rules against attacking the character being covered and their fans. Opinions on their likelihood should be allowed, but debates should be reserved for the main thread or the RTC thread. I also believe people should be allowed to clear up any misconceptions and incorrect facts about the character-For example, say we were debating Terry before we actually got him, and someone said FF/KoF had never been on a Nintendo system before, which would be incorrect. Debates should be stopped quickly, but misconceptions should able to be cleared up.
 

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Fair point. As a couple others have mentioned, there should be rules against attacking the character being covered and their fans. Opinions on their likelihood should be allowed, but debates should be reserved for the main thread or the RTC thread. I also believe people should be allowed to clear up any misconceptions and incorrect facts about the character-For example, say we were debating Terry before we actually got him, and someone said FF/KoF had never been on a Nintendo system before, which would be incorrect. Debates should be stopped quickly, but misconceptions should able to be cleared up.
I think in a vacuum this is good, but I don't know the current capacity of SB staff to accommodate such a thread, especially if part of the thread is advocating for a character's chances, which naturally brings debate. The Square Enix thread had this problem a lot when it was initially made for similar reasons.
 

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I think in a vacuum this is good, but I don't know the current capacity of SB staff to accommodate such a thread, especially if part of the thread is advocating for a character's chances, which naturally brings debate. The Square Enix thread had this problem a lot when it was initially made for similar reasons.
Yeah, I was mostly thinking of an overview of the character, i.e. This is what they're from, this is their weapon, this is how they'd fill, etc. Opinion on their chances should be allowed, but should mostly be kept to a minimum.

The whole concept actually came about from me realizing that I have no idea how Neku would play, despite him being tossed around a fair bit. I thought he had a spear, but realized I don't know where that bit of info came from, so I had no idea how he fights and how that would translate into a moveset. Mostly, it's "This is the character, they're from this game, this is how they'd play, this is what they'd bring." Mainly focused on the content rather than the chances.
 

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Can that content include things like Classic Modes, Spirit Boards, and music for their stages?
I'd say that's fair. It's less arguing for their chances and more trying to get people wanting them, something RTC can't really do because it's more about the likeliness than the want. On that note, the want sometimes leads to bias, and that affects the chances, so I say it's best to just let people dream about what could be, without reality holding them back.
 

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Yeah, I was mostly thinking of an overview of the character, i.e. This is what they're from, this is their weapon, this is how they'd fill, etc. Opinion on their chances should be allowed, but should mostly be kept to a minimum.

The whole concept actually came about from me realizing that I have no idea how Neku would play, despite him being tossed around a fair bit. I thought he had a spear, but realized I don't know where that bit of info came from, so I had no idea how he fights and how that would translate into a moveset. Mostly, it's "This is the character, they're from this game, this is how they'd play, this is what they'd bring." Mainly focused on the content rather than the chances.
Is the idea it would have a nominations system and change daily-ish, a la RTC? Or do you think it'd be more free for all support-related thread like the old Square Enix general thread was?

If the former, calling it something like "Predict Their Content" could work and make it a bit clear that it isn't a Rate Their Chances thing given how Rate Their Chances is a thread that already exists. I think it'd be easy to defend the thread as not being the place to debate odds, but I also don't know how many forum users would read the rules...

Either way, I do love this idea. I've been lowering my SmashBoards consumption lately as I've found a lot of the discussion is cyclical and a bit tiring, but the idea of just spinning hypotheticals for random character pack's contents sounds super fun and like a breadth of fresh air in a fairly rooted-in speculation scene.
 

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Is the idea it would have a nominations system and change daily-ish, a la RTC? Or do you think it'd be more free for all support-related thread like the old Square Enix general thread was?

If the former, calling it something like "Predict Their Content" could work and make it a bit clear that it isn't a Rate Their Chances thing given how Rate Their Chances is a thread that already exists. I think it'd be easy to defend the thread as not being the place to debate odds, but I also don't know how many forum users would read the rules...

Either way, I do love this idea. I've been lowering my SmashBoards consumption lately as I've found a lot of the discussion is cyclical and a bit tiring, but the idea of just spinning hypotheticals for random character pack's contents sounds super fun and like a breadth of fresh air in a fairly rooted-in speculation scene.
I was thinking more the former, so everyone gets their time in the spotlight and we're not talking over each other. I was thinking more Sell Us On This Fighter, though Predict Their Content would work fine too. I'm thinking we start by suggesting a character each, then voting on them, or just setting them out with no particular order. After that, we just nominate characters as normal. Maybe people who give a good description of the character and their potential content could get extra noms like in RTC, since without them it might make everyone's votes a bit stagnant.
 

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I was thinking more the former, so everyone gets their time in the spotlight and we're not talking over each other. I was thinking more Sell Us On This Fighter, though Predict Their Content would work fine too. I'm thinking we start by suggesting a character each, then voting on them, or just setting them out with no particular order. After that, we just nominate characters as normal. Maybe people who give a good description of the character and their potential content could get extra noms like in RTC, since without them it might make everyone's votes a bit stagnant.
That sounds like a good approach! Maybe set a word count for the extra noms as a way of making it more of an objective perimeter? Overall, I think that'd be really cool and fun. Probably would have to check to ensure mods have the time to have another thread with a daily-ish name change.

Sell Us On This Fighter is probably a better name; I just like Predict Their Content as it abbreviates similar to RTC as PTC...
 

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That sounds like a good approach! Maybe set a word count for the extra noms as a way of making it more of an objective perimeter? Overall, I think that'd be really cool and fun. Probably would have to check to ensure mods have the time to have another thread with a daily-ish name change.

Sell Us On This Fighter is probably a better name; I just like Predict Their Content as it abbreviates similar to RTC as PTC...
Glad you like it! SUOTF might be a bit of a mouthful, though; Maybe just Sell The Fighter/STF might be good, or just Sell Us The Fighter. Something that's accurate, but not too long.
 

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Glad you like it! SUOTF might be a bit of a mouthful, though; Maybe just Sell The Fighter/STF might be good, or just Sell Us The Fighter. Something that's accurate, but not too long.
I like Sell The Fighter. I do wonder if the "Us" in the title may make it seem more debate-y then I think you're going for, as it could come across as "Try To Convince An Apathetic Audience on the Fighter Being a Good Idea" which could lead to more debates?
 

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I like Sell The Fighter. I do wonder if the "Us" in the title may make it seem more debate-y then I think you're going for, as it could come across as "Try To Convince An Apathetic Audience on the Fighter Being a Good Idea" which could lead to more debates?
Yeah, that might make it a bit problematic. Let's stick to just Sell the Fighter.
 
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SharkLord

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That's what I'm wondering. It's a really cool concept, and I'd be surprised (but still a bit bummed) if it didn't go anywhere.
I would've let it sit a little while longer, but I realized how cyclic the main thread gets when we have nothing to talk about. I think it'd be nice for people to try and get people behind their most wanted, since the main thread shoots down anything deemed "unlikely" and goes back to discussing Geno for the 876546th time, RTC is more about the likelihood than the desire, and 90% of the time you'll only really go to that character's thread if you want to support them. I think it would be a good thing to let people freely discuss their most-wanteds without restraint.
 

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I would've let it sit a little while longer, but I realized how cyclic the main thread gets when we have nothing to talk about. I think it'd be nice for people to try and get people behind their most wanted, since the main thread shoots down anything deemed "unlikely" and goes back to discussing Geno for the 876546th time, RTC is more about the likelihood than the desire, and 90% of the time you'll only really go to that character's thread if you want to support them. I think it would be a good thing to let people freely discuss their most-wanteds without restraint.
Maybe message someone who runs the RTC thread? I think you could just make a STF thread yourself if you write out rules/guidelines for the thread and begin the nomination processes, but the challenge would be finding a mod with the time/energy to update the titles regularly like the RTC does...
 
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