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I'm just saying that with Geno, two camps have to meet. We don't know the full details of the meeting, but making a mii costume is not the same as making a brand new character. Way more resources go into making a playable character. Would Square want all that time and money to be spent on a character they can't really do much with, or rather one of their existing Ips which they can hope to bank on later?
Those two camps have already met though. Obtaining the rights to a character is exactly the same for a Mii costume and a brand new character, since it's using the character either way. And it's not Square's time and money that's being spent, it's Nintendo's, so I don't see what their problem would be.
I think people underestimate the power of Sakurai's Bias. was castlevania really ever so big of a fan request that it called for them getting 2 characters, a stage with multiple boss', and 34 music tracks? because if you ask me Castlevania got all that love because the series is one of Sakurai's childhood favorites.
I mean, I've been wanting Castlevania since Brawl.
For the same reason I wanted Mega Man. I don't have that much personal attachment to either, but they're both oldschool franchises heavily associated with Nintendo in their early years, and if the word "deserve" was ever appropriate for Smash, it would be for those two series.
Castlevania doesn’t need to be a hugely requested franchise, nor does it need Sakurai to be biased, to get that sort of representation. Any character joining from a new franchise can get that reprentation. Look at Splatoon: unique newcomer, new stage, tons of music, and if Octolings don’t get in as base Echoes, they’ll be DLC guaranteed. And Splatoon doesn’t even have the history Castlevania does.
Well. We'll just have to wait and see. Geno does have a chance, but he is absolutely in no way a lock. I fear for how his fans will react if he doesn't get in...
I think is the Square rep is Geno because of the circumstances of his competition:
Yeah true. I'm pretty sure he's 100% owned by Disney they just only use him whenever Nomura/Square asks.
There's also Neku (TWEWY) and Lara Croft (Tomb Raider), although the latter has an issue involving realistic guns. There is also a chance that the second SE rep is another FF character.
Eh, is it an indie with much of a "series or impact behind it, or is it more flash in the pan? It could be on the same level as every other indie if that's the case, and I'd much rather see more representation of Sonic characters themselves rather than an imitator of them
Don't use the word deserve because that's very subjective, there is no series that doesn't belong to Nintendo that deserves to be in smash, third party is just an extra in smash.I mean, I've been wanting Castlevania since Brawl.
You're right though! I voted for Simon personally, but I doubt he did that well in the ballot overall.
That's why. A lot of people disagree with you on that, that's all there is to it.
Yeah. Obviously. That's why I qualified it with a big ol' "if" statement...
...however, "it's subjective" goes both ways. For example, I believe that third-party series like Mega Man, Castlevania, and Banjo-Kazooie, which literally owe their existence to Nintendo, have more than earned their place in Smash. Don't go around stating your opinion as if it's fact, because it's still just an opinion.
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. You... you're just ASKING for hate lol. (Not that I'll be the one to give it to you.) I for one believe that every third party character who has made it in is worthy of their roster spot. Except Bayonetta.
Yeah man, only relevant Nintendo-exclusive characters deserve to be in Smash.
Yeah. Characters don't need to be relevant in order to be in Smash.
Please
Shantae is m very dull to me
Err, why did you quote me? I never talked about Shantae, Rex or DLC, so unless it was a mistake I don’t understand.
That was accidental. Mobile smash boards acts weird sometimes. I meant to comment to the actual thread
They do owe their existence to Nintendo and I've always loved the Castlevania and banjo games, but I don't think they earned a place in smash, especially not banjo because it belongs to Microsoft now and there wasn't a major banjo game after tooie, the last entry was a big flop. So how would Nintendo profit from banjo being in smash? Banjo kazooie is a classic, yes, but even a spin off game like Diddy kong racing on the N64 sold more. If rare would still belong to Nintendo (which means we would still get banjo games), then banjo would deserve to be in smash.
I don't care if I get hate, I don't like most third party games, that's why I buy Nintendo consoles and play Nintendo games, I belong to the people who have supported Nintendo all the years, I bought every Nintendo console, even the wii u. Why should Nintendo celebrate foreign developed games?? They don't care about western studios, they think they're something better.Patra for Smash!
(From Pac-Man Party)
And about the third party thing,
I don't get your comment, I hate the word "relevant" people keep using here when referring to characters, because it was always said that characters like k.rool wouldn't appear in smash because he is not relevant and now he is playable, if I remember correctly you were one of the people back then who was arguing with me and said k.rool wouldn't come back because he's not RELEVANT, now he's in,so....
You yourself said Castlevania doesn’t deserve to be in Smash because it’s not relevant.
I said that about Castlevania because people were discussing about the relevance of some characters and I think it's annoying because we can clearly see that relevance is not important in that smash. Like I said I loved the Castlevania games but If we start talking about relevance, then it shouldn't be represented in smash either.
Is there a possibility you add Dixie Kong from the DK franchise???
Okay let me explain: I didn't really add characters from franchises that have already received a unique newcomer. You could just answer her in the "Other" option though. Sorry!
Fixed it
Idk, that does not sound tame.
Speculation will probably be more wide open once DLC begins. There's not much of a pool for base game. Since there's likely not many characters left (Even if the dreaded Box theory is wrong, there's probably not more then 3 additional characters after what the Box + Verge's characters implies). But once DLC is in full swing, there's going to be many candidates that include some of the currently speculated that miss the base game and/or other options that are possible based on what we've gotten from newcomers (Missing role upgrades if the characters were Mii costumes last game, assists, etc.) this game, and of course the Switch-era characters.
I do, mostly.Just a quick Question....... WHO BELIEVES IN THE GRINCH THEORY
