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Good chances are still chances. It probably won't happen not unt the stars align, but that's about it. I personally just find this system so dumb and idiotic. You're giving support for a character in exchange for fake news. While this does not quite bother me personally, I'm starting to doubt how much more will it take just to make them shut up.
Yeah I agree, it skews things a bit and makes it harder to tell whether people actually genuinely want a certain character, or just expect them or just think their likely.
I agree that this system degrades. Hands down.
I've heard Byleth getting talked about a fair amount, and I get the impression that they have decent moveset potential. One notable trait I can glean from them is their use of a whip-sword at some point in the game. As someone who isn't too familiar with Three Houses, can you tell me what other properties and mechanics they could bring to Smash? I'm genuinely curious.
The whipsword is enough but Byleth has Divine Pulse, which lets you turn back time a bit to undo actions, Battalions which let you do stuff with an army and pretty much anything that isn't exclusive to specific characters. Byleth even has the Crest of Flames which basically works like the Sol skill iirc, which can heal you a bit based on how hard you hit the enemy when it goes up
In addition to that, their personal class also lets them use various fire spells, the same life drain spell that Robin has, an offensive light spell, and it has a proficiency in gauntlets.
True but Byleth's most marketed weapon is their sword and knowing the FE cast, signature weapons are prioritized. Robin has a generic bronze sword and Levin sword but Robin doesn't have any unique weapons, which probably helped convince Sakurai to add them over Chrom and his Falchion
The whip sword is Byleth's personal weapon and available for about 75% of the game. It's pretty much their trademark weapon for the whole game. Outside of that, Byleth also has acces to brawling skills with gauntlets and healing / light magic. It's also reasonable for them to use regular magic. So that means they could be a very versatile character, ideal for a sort of mix up move set between up close brawling, disjointed sword attacks, disjointed sword zoning and projectile zoning.
Imo good luck with frame data.
Brawling attack could have good frame data, and could be disjointed somewhat. Obviously the zoning based stuff wouldn't have the best frame data, but regular sword attacks and brawling attacks have no reason of being slow if the rest is already slow.
Adding onto the things everyone else has said, another interesting thing 3H introduced is the concept of gambits and battalions - commanding extra units and armies and the special attacks that come with.
While I agree with most of your points, let’s bring up the hypothetical situation that Porky is Fighter 5 for the Pass. At this point I’d think if he’s coming, it’s not in the Pass (and thus he doesn’t need to have a stage, music, and Spirits), but let’s just go with it for example’s sake.
Yeah yeah, whatever you say. Fire Emblem is the best and most successful Nintendo series ever, it deserves 10000000 characters in Smash and everything else should bow before it.
That’s not what he said but I’d be cranky too if I forgot what an opinion was, got called out for it and doubled down.
tbh I don’t think Porky is coming back in any form.im still on the board that porky is #5 to the day
this may be insomnia talking but trying to counter the porky spirit theory with "he'll be back as a boss" is kind of stupid considering literally every other boss in the smash bros series except him has a spirit in one way or anotherso that's my hot take
I mean, I can refute all his points (first off by precising that FE sells about as much as your average Nintendo series, there's data; then by pointing out at how it had way more characters than almost every other series even in Smash 4 before its resurgeance so that shouldn't count as an argument; or even how mobile sales are not a good gauge of anything since, you know, whales), but talking with Fire Emblem fanboys is useless.
Which thing now?
The reception would have been much better. For one, Sandbag, as far as we know, is an individual and not a generic mook. Plus, there aren't dozens of characters from the Smash series that people wanted to be playable like with Mario. And hell, playable Sandbag wouldn't have been as left field considering he had quite the support and was playable in SSF2.
What happened now?
Or people just genuinely like Three Houses because it’s a great game and want representation in Smash. Or like Byleth, or like the concept of their moveset...
Oh, but don't you know? Fire Emblem is clearly a creation of the devil, and should never be acknowledged as a good series, ever. And people only ever like it because it's something new. Clearly, we should all clamour for our lords and saviours, the entire DK Crew, instead.
I mean, that goes for every series. Just look at the Zelda debates with Midna VS Skull Kid VS Tingle VS Vaati VS the Champions VS Classic Ganon VS Zelda 1's Old Man etc. etc.
Hold on, before we proceed, you need to answer one question so that we may see if you still have any rights.
As someone for who Xenoblade is my favourite series in Smash, I'd honestly consider Rex & Pyra to be an outright loss, even. They embody just about everything that I hated about Xenoblade 2, and basically all the elements that I do not want to see in the series moving forward. I'd only really accept Elma.
C'mon, at least keep the rhyme intact. You can't just disrespect such a heavenly choir like that. If anything, it'd need to be "He has no style / He has no grace / Fire Emblem / is a f***ing disgrace!", or something like that.
I'll have you know that Mr Shooty MacGunface has a very deep and important history, which automatically means that he should be in Smash! Even if that history only barely has anything to do with Nintendo!
Somebody who's not really into Fire Emblem preferring almost any other kind of character is not really that hard to grasp either.
Byleth would be blue haired sword lord number five, not eight.
I mean...I'd actually be quite up for this providing 60/75 of those characters weren't Marth's moveset but slightly tweaked.
It's funny you would bring up Doom or Halo, because Japan treats those franchises in the same manner you're treating Fire Emblem right now. Someone brings up Doom Marine or Master Chief and they're met with groans of "another western fighter with a gun". They're literally referred to as "Green Samus".
From what I know it's in the same ballpark as Kirby Star Allies and Tropical Freeze. Nothing to scoff at, but nothing more than your typical Nintendo major release either.
"Another" western fighter with a gun? There's no western fighter with a gun in the roster.
Cynthia has never done anything wrong in her entire life outside of appear in a gen I didn't have any fun with and she and Guzma are two characters I would love in Smash.
