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Official Newcomer/DLC Speculation Discussion

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TheAJJohnson

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I think that our final fighter pass character will not be from any of the companies currently represented in the fighter pass. Additionally, I think it's fair to assume that it will be a third-party pick. Lastly, I don't think any third-party company with three reps will get anything else in the fighter pass.

With those criteria, the following companies are out of the running:

  • Nintendo
  • Konami
  • Sega (and by extension, Atlus)
  • Capcom
  • Square Enix
  • Microsoft
  • SNK
 

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Doomguy is such a great choice, I can't see why he wouldn't be Character #5.
 

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I can see him getting skipped over, but I think Doom is the most influential game NOT yet in Smash save for probably Minecraft, and Doom brings something new to Smash in every category from playstyle down to the music, so I think he would be a valuable inclusion. But Snake, Sonic, and Megaman all got in before Pacman, an extremley influential character/game, so it wouldnt be the first time an icon had to wait a little before getting in.
 

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Doomguy is such a great choice, I can't see why he wouldn't be Character #5.
Well it depends on whether or not Sakurai and Nintendo chose him or not.

He's not the only appropriate choice and even then the final character could be something no body saw coming.
 

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so how about them potential newcomers huh?

what about uh?

Kirby Gun.jpg


gun kirby.

y'all think he's got a chance? i sure hope he does. i think he'd be real cool.

he could bring something new to gameplay since he's kirby but he has a gun and he doesn't need to fight joker to have it.
 

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I kind of think that the next character will either be Doomguy or Reimu because I feel like that Smash is going for icons

Joker: Modern gaming icon
Hero: JRPG icon
Banjo: Classic Nintendo icon
Terry: Fighting game icon

Doomguy would be a FPS icon and very popular in the west, and Reimu would be an indie icon and very popular in Japan. Both are genres are not all that represented in Smash and would most defiantly expand the world of smash.
Probably completely wrong thought.
 

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Give me Crash for the final character.

Or Doom. Or Master Chief. Or Steve. Or Sora.
 

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I still think that the last newcomer of the pass will be Leon Kennedy. He have a much wider appeal than Doomguy (Resident evil his huge in Japan), he also represent a genre not reprensented in Smash and dealing with Capcom is probably easier for Nintendo than with Bethesda. Also game awards would be the perfect moment because Resident evil 2 Remake will most likely get some nominations, maybe alongside some project resistance information or an announcement of another mainline title (resident evil 8 or 3 remake?). Also Resident evil is getting a lot of games on the switch just like doom (resident evil 5 and 6 will release next month).
 
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I still think that the last newcomer of the pass will be Leon Kennedy. He have a much wider appeal than Doomguy.
I'm not sure what those two have anything to do with each other, but aside from Hero, none of the fighters in the pass exactly have huge appeals. They are just the biggest in their own company.

he also represent a genre not reprensented in Smash
Is this a plus? Again, no DLC fighters brought a new genre to Smash, even among other third parties. Not sure if this is something Nintendo prioritizes.

Also game awards would be the perfect moment because Resident evil 2 Remake will most likely get some nominations, maybe alongside some project resistance information or an announcement of another mainline title
Okay, but it's not like Nintendo chose the characters for revealing them in special events.
 

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I'm not sure what those two have anything to do with each other, but aside from Hero, none of the fighters in the pass exactly have huge appeals. They are just the biggest in their own company.
They don't really share anything in common, but people where talking about Doomguy for a moment so I wanted to compare them.
 

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I'm not sure what those two have anything to do with each other, but aside from Hero, none of the fighters in the pass exactly have huge appeals. They are just the biggest in their own company.



Is this a plus? Again, no DLC fighters brought a new genre to Smash, even among other third parties. Not sure if this is something Nintendo prioritizes.



Okay, but it's not like Nintendo chose the characters for revealing them in special events.
ok banjo and kazooie Want a word with you
 

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ok banjo and kazooie Want a word with you
The whole series sold like, what, 5.3 million copies? That's roughly about half of the Persona and even that's considered as one of the lesser known JRPGs.

Let's be honest, we passed the point of adding unarguably big names like Ryu, Sonic and PAC-MAN. At this point, how big characters are in their own genres will matter more, rather than their impact on the larger gaming scene.
 
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so how about them potential newcomers huh?

what about uh?

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gun kirby.

y'all think he's got a chance? i sure hope he does. i think he'd be real cool.

he could bring something new to gameplay since he's kirby but he has a gun and he doesn't need to fight joker to have it.
Isn't that just



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Sidenote: Links Awakening drops this weekend. BUT, imagine an Earthbound remake in this art style.....


 
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Sidenote: Links Awakening drops this weekend. BUT, imagine an Earthbound remake in this art style.....
A Mother 3 remake in this style is my dream tbh
 
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Okay, yall gotta chill with your massive images.

put em in quotes or spoiler them dammit.
 

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Sidenote: Links Awakening drops this weekend. BUT, imagine an Earthbound remake in this art style.....


Yes. I need a remake of the series. Please.
 
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I was always quite fond of the idea of remaking the Earthbound series by basing the art style off the clay models of the series myself.

Also is it just me, or has the Smash community come up with more out there theories for this game than any of the past Smash games....?
 
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At this point, we're all kind of spinning our wheels here, myself included. We're hung up on the handful of characters that just gotta be #5. Collectively, I think we've more or less narrowed it down to five real hopefuls: Ryu, Doomguy, Leon/Jill, Crash, and Sora (coincidentally listed by order of probability haha).

I'm pretty sure these are also the five characters we've been circling around since E3, right? There wasn't nearly this much serious speculation around an SNK rep, much less Terry from Fatal Fury.

I'm not saying that these characters don't have a chance (literally all of them have an impossibly high chance, and you've all done a great job at detailing why), but I'm also beginning to wonder if we're all so certain about at least Ryu, Doomguy, and an RE rep only because we've been talking about them for so long. Like how we were all so sure that Steve was definitely going to get in, especially over Banjo, mostly due to Vergeben's insistence and the whole "relevancy" debate.

By chilling in this echo chamber we've accidentally set up, how much are we setting ourselves up for another Bayonetta-sized disappointment at the end of this Pass?

Eh, but speaking of echo chambers, anyone else really hoping that they'll just drop an Echo Fighter pack on us? $10 for all five Echoes, low risk/high reward from their perspective? And that's how we'll get those missing fan favorites like Dixie, Octoling, Ms. Pac-Man, Metal Sonic, and, I dunno, Tetra? Because man do I really want more Echo Fighters in this game, guys...
 

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At this point, we're all kind of spinning our wheels here, myself included. We're hung up on the handful of characters that just gotta be #5. Collectively, I think we've more or less narrowed it down to five real hopefuls: Ryu, Doomguy, Leon/Jill, Crash, and Sora (coincidentally listed by order of probability haha).

I'm pretty sure these are also the five characters we've been circling around since E3, right? There wasn't nearly this much serious speculation around an SNK rep, much less Terry from Fatal Fury.

I'm not saying that these characters don't have a chance (literally all of them have an impossibly high chance, and you've all done a great job at detailing why), but I'm also beginning to wonder if we're all so certain about at least Ryu, Doomguy, and an RE rep only because we've been talking about them for so long. Like how we were all so sure that Steve was definitely going to get in, especially over Banjo, mostly due to Vergeben's insistence and the whole "relevancy" debate.

By chilling in this echo chamber we've accidentally set up, how much are we setting ourselves up for another Bayonetta-sized disappointment at the end of this Pass?

Eh, but speaking of echo chambers, anyone else really hoping that they'll just drop an Echo Fighter pack on us? $10 for all five Echoes, low risk/high reward from their perspective? And that's how we'll get those missing fan favorites like Dixie, Octoling, Ms. Pac-Man, Metal Sonic, and, I dunno, Tetra? Because man do I really want more Echo Fighters in this game, guys...
I've brought this up in another thread before, but it reminds me of things like thinking Ultimate would just be Smash 4+Inkling/Rex/Spring Man. And look how thay turned out.
 

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At this point, we're all kind of spinning our wheels here, myself included. We're hung up on the handful of characters that just gotta be #5. Collectively, I think we've more or less narrowed it down to five real hopefuls: Ryu, Doomguy, Leon/Jill, Crash, and Sora (coincidentally listed by order of probability haha).

I'm pretty sure these are also the five characters we've been circling around since E3, right? There wasn't nearly this much serious speculation around an SNK rep, much less Terry from Fatal Fury.

I'm not saying that these characters don't have a chance (literally all of them have an impossibly high chance, and you've all done a great job at detailing why), but I'm also beginning to wonder if we're all so certain about at least Ryu, Doomguy, and an RE rep only because we've been talking about them for so long. Like how we were all so sure that Steve was definitely going to get in, especially over Banjo, mostly due to Vergeben's insistence and the whole "relevancy" debate.

By chilling in this echo chamber we've accidentally set up, how much are we setting ourselves up for another Bayonetta-sized disappointment at the end of this Pass?

Eh, but speaking of echo chambers, anyone else really hoping that they'll just drop an Echo Fighter pack on us? $10 for all five Echoes, low risk/high reward from their perspective? And that's how we'll get those missing fan favorites like Dixie, Octoling, Ms. Pac-Man, Metal Sonic, and, I dunno, Tetra? Because man do I really want more Echo Fighters in this game, guys...
Honestly I'm impressed that one rebranding made people go from hating clones to desperately wanting more clones
 

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Yeah I wouldn't be surprised if there where some more surprises in store, Sakurai and Smash are never really that straightforward.
Heck three out of four currently revealed DLC characters weren't really discussed that much initially (if it wasn't for rumours and leaks at least...)
 
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Honestly, I've felt for ages now that believing that the entire Fighter's Pass is going to be big, commonly talked about characters is only setting yourself up for disappointment. You'd think that after Terry's reveal, people would've started to realize this, but Shooty MacViolentGunface and Blue Naruto being the most commonly talked about characters on here says otherwise.
(No offense to fans of Doom Guy and Hayabusa. Not trying to demean the two, I just like coming up with silly nicknames for characters.)

Yeah I wouldn't be surprised if there where some surprises there, Sakurai and Smash are never really that straightforward.
Heck three out of four currently revealed DLC characters weren't really discussed that much initially (if it wasn't for rumours and leaks at least...)
Outside of Terry and Joker, who do you mean? Hero or Banjo?
 

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Honestly I'm impressed that one rebranding made people go from hating clones to desperately wanting more clones
Smash 4: Clones are extra bonuses that took minimal time
Fans:


Ultimate: They're called Echo Fighters now
Fans:


Outside of Terry and Joker, who do you mean? Hero or Banjo?
Hero.
Dragon Quest in general didn't have a whole of buzz at all until Brave was found in the datamine
 

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Sans' Mii costume reveal at Nintendo NY is not only the most viewed Smash Bros. reaction video, but also by proxy one of the most viewed Smash trailers in general less than 2 weeks after the fact. Whether the attention to that upload is ironic or not I don't think matters to Sakurai. I'm expecting him to be a fighter in the future. Not necessarily as Fighter Pack #5 but just at some point.
 

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Sans' Mii costume reveal at Nintendo NY is not only the most viewed Smash Bros. reaction video, but also by proxy one of the most viewed Smash trailers in general less than 2 weeks after the fact. Whether the attention to that upload is ironic or not I don't think matters to Sakurai. I'm expecting him to be a fighter in the future. Not necessarily as Fighter Pack #5 but just at some point.
Didn't Toby Fox once state that he was against the idea of his characters ever starring in some kind of fighting game?
 

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You know what? Here's a theory. I'm calling it Major Arcana theory. We will get 22 total newcomers (unique) for the game, and here's who they'll be.
  1. Fool - Joker
  2. Magician - ???
  3. High Priestess - Isabelle
  4. Empress - ???
  5. Emperor - ???
  6. Hierophant - ???
  7. Lovers - Banjo & Kazooie
  8. Chariot - Piranha Plant
  9. Justice - Hero
  10. Hermit - King K. Rool
  11. Wheel of Fortune - ???
  12. Strength - Simon Belmont
  13. Hanged Man - Inkling
  14. Death - Ridley
  15. Temperance - ???
  16. Devil - Incineroar
  17. Tower - ???
  18. Star - Terry Bogard
  19. Moon - ???
  20. Sun - ???
  21. Judgement - ???
  22. World - ???
  23. Happy Squirrel - ???
...by the way I'm kidding but I thought it was interesting, I don't have anything substantial to add. I'll shut up now...
 

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You know what? Here's a theory. I'm calling it Major Arcana theory. We will get 22 total newcomers (unique) for the game, and here's who they'll be.
  1. Fool - Joker
  2. Magician - ???
  3. High Priestess - Isabelle
  4. Empress - ???
  5. Emperor - ???
  6. Hierophant - ???
  7. Lovers - Banjo & Kazooie
  8. Chariot - Piranha Plant
  9. Justice - Hero
  10. Hermit - King K. Rool
  11. Wheel of Fortune - ???
  12. Strength - Simon Belmont
  13. Hanged Man - Inkling
  14. Death - Ridley
  15. Temperance - ???
  16. Devil - Incineroar
  17. Tower - ???
  18. Star - Terry Bogard
  19. Moon - ???
  20. Sun - ???
  21. Judgement - ???
  22. World - ???
  23. Happy Squirrel - ???
...by the way I'm kidding but I thought it was interesting, I don't have anything substantial to add. I'll shut up now...
Fortune is deginitely Hero, lmaooooo
 

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Honestly, I've felt for ages now that believing that the entire Fighter's Pass is going to be big, commonly talked about characters is only setting yourself up for disappointment.
Hayabusa isn't a substantially "bigger" character than Terry. Ninja Gaiden is more or less niche nowadays, and he's a secondary character in Dead or Alive. His name started coming up a lot after he was mentioned in alleged leaks, and then stuck around because his inclusion makes a lot of sense.
 

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You know what? Here's a theory. I'm calling it Major Arcana theory. We will get 22 total newcomers (unique) for the game, and here's who they'll be.
  1. Fool - Joker
  2. Magician - ???
  3. High Priestess - Isabelle
  4. Empress - ???
  5. Emperor - ???
  6. Hierophant - ???
  7. Lovers - Banjo & Kazooie
  8. Chariot - Piranha Plant
  9. Justice - Hero
  10. Hermit - King K. Rool
  11. Wheel of Fortune - ???
  12. Strength - Simon Belmont
  13. Hanged Man - Inkling
  14. Death - Ridley
  15. Temperance - ???
  16. Devil - Incineroar
  17. Tower - ???
  18. Star - Terry Bogard
  19. Moon - ???
  20. Sun - ???
  21. Judgement - ???
  22. World - ???
  23. Happy Squirrel - ???
...by the way I'm kidding but I thought it was interesting, I don't have anything substantial to add. I'll shut up now...
Eh, could be fun. I’ll throw in some often speculated characters to fill in the blanks (plus some of my own choices)
Magician - Shantae
Empress - Edelgard... not a lot of other options here
Emperor - Nightmare/Siegfried
Hierophant - Geno (because he serves a “higher authority”)
Wheel of Fortune - Octoling (just go with it idk) and yes they’ll be semi-unique using some of the weapons Inkling doesn’t
Temperance - Neku
Tower - Doom Slayer (Tower represents ruin so I guess)
Moon - Ryu Hayabusa
Sun - Amaterasu
Judgment - KOS-MOS
World - Elma (cause Xenoblade X has a vast world... sue me ok)
 
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