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The reaction to the Sans mii costume has made me think that the Smash community is really insular in terms of discussions about inclusion and who people think are popular compared to who is actually possible. Seeing this reaction, I feel like Sans probably should have been a playable character, and a playable Sans probably would have generated more hype than almost any newcomer Ultimate has had thus far.
It's almost as if Persona 5 basically did this and made boring Menu/Skill selection something attractive to do with it's style, presentation and OST, and literally why Persona 5 is seen as probably the best RPG of the decade for now. And also why a ****ing Persona Game was selected as a possible Game of the Year the same year as ****ing Zelda Breath of the Wild and Mario Odyssey, y'know...
Well of all Sony's owned characters I'd say Sackboy and Kat from Gravity Rush are the ones who fit best.
Hmm....the ones that I can come up with are Uncharted's Nathan Drake, Gravity Rush's Kat and Ratchet and Clank. Those would be my picks as Sony reps.
It's a phenomenal game. But it didn't define the genre in the sense that I'm talking about. 2 million copies sold simply isn't enough. Compare that to something like Overwatch which has sold some 25 million copies.
There are 3 characters i think are all but assured roght now, and all are upgrades, thanks to both tje more dlc, and Sans mii costume.
Real talk, I was about to sign off of these boards because damn there's way too much salt on here for my own good. I joined for fun speculation and that wave of congratulations when a fan favorite character finally joined the roster. I miss the days when this board exploded after the reveals of Ridley, K. Rool, Joker, Banjo,, etc because even if it wasn't a character you were personally a fan of, you couldn't help but feel secondhand joy through the fanbases who have been waiting and being bombarded with "he's too big" or "they're not relevant" or "they don't even have a game on a Nintendo console".
Game sales isn't how redefining a genre work.
All those are really bad examples. As a matter of fact I would say that Persona 5 is actually a better example than all of those.
Again though, it's you right now who's annoyed about the fact that someone else doesn't like the same character as you, and you know what, it's kind of sad. It's kind of sad that you have to point the finger at someone because they don't share your opinion, is it not? So Banjo's in. Cool, some people are happy, so that's great. Sure, some people didn't want Banjo, but that's no real excuse to start being uncivil about a videogame.
I would be incredibly happy and mostly satisfied with Ultimate if Minecraft is in Smash with Steve as a fighter.
Really.
At the same time people doubledip for whatever reasons. I own 2 copies of DMC1 and am gonna rebuy Shovel Knight at the end of the year while a friend of mine currently has every copy of Bayonetta 1 available alongside people like SomecallmeJohnny own all 20+ versions of Sonic 1.
Me? I don't want Minecraft content but at the same time I don't hate the idea of it. It's like what we just saw with Sans, only with one of the most successful video games of all time. That being said I remember one of my friends getting pissed cause Banjo likely meant no Steve, but that particular friend is literally the kind of dude to whine about anime swordsmen
I'm not annoyed at the guy not liking Banjo (who cares? He's probably into Fire Emblem, his opinion doesn't count), I'm annoyed at him trying his damn hardest to ruin what's a very happy moment for a lot of people. He's the guy who's telling to a friend who just graduated that his degree is really easy to get anyways. Just be salty in your little corner if you gotta be like that.
Doesn't Ubisoft own the rights, or are there other issues I'm unaware of?
Sales don't define everything. Super Metroid sales weren't specially great and the game is frequently considered one of the best games of all time, aside from establishing the basics for his genre (with the help of Symphony of the Night which came later, of course).
I can see this. Atlus knows P5 is the most popular one and they're pushing it along with Joker. I like the other Persona protagonists but I think Joker draws more attention visually speaking than the previous main characters. Besides the sneaky gimmick of the Phantom Thieves and all that fits very well for crossovers.
I should note, success is also kind of relative. While neither P3 nor P4 were Triple A smash hits, they still established new peaks for them. Persona 5 built very much on what P3 and P4 had done and reached those numbers partly because of the high critical acclaim. Also, it's partly because ATLUS put in a lot of effort into P5. ATLUS was not exactly known for being Triple A, so 2 Million's awesome for them.
They probably just was like, must be a guy pretending to be a girl because girls dont play video games. The tje girls who claim to he are fake gamer girlz
Hey now, I don't want to assume everyone who thinks I'm sacrificing a goat every day to prevent Banjo getting a new game is a bad personThey probably just was like, must be a guy pretending to be a girl because girls dont play video games. The tje girls who claim to he are fake gamer girlz
At this point we're having a semantic debate. You are looking at genre defining in a different way than I am. I am talking about current public perception, and you are talking about something more predictive and downstream. When I say that Overwatch is genre defining, I am talking about the way it defines the Hero shooter genre, and people recognize that. It's not something that we're guessing about down the road. It's right now.
Maybe it's a better example of what you consider to be genre defining. But not for the purposes of what I'm talking about. There is no debate that Tracer, Erdrick, and Sans, are more iconic characters than Joker. Unless we are about to have that debate lol.
I think he's very likely for the second wave of DLC. We have Sakurai outright saying he loves the game. Microsoft is working with Smash and Nintendo in a very cooperative manner. Minecraft just experienced a boon where interest for the game is rising up again. There has been no content related to Minecraft at all in Smash. I would actually be surprised if Nintendo gave up the opportunity to put one of the biggest video games of all time in their gaming crossover, especially with how nothing is holding them back. If Banjo was easy to negotiate, then I imagine Steve would be too.
I've heard that the original creator of Prince of Persia as some beef with Ubisoft hence why the series is on hiatus.
Making an account just to argue with me? I'm flattered, truly.
Joker has a very real link to Shin Megami Tensei.
I hope you're right, because this pass was exactly what I wanted.
*ahem*
Idk, has
Cutie Gwen
seen him in any magazines lately? That's how we determine if characters are iconic enough to be in Smash now.
I've always wanted Steve in Smash; Minecraft is such a unique game in everey regard and is obv a phenomenon. It deserves its place in Smash.
Bro.
Bruh.
I think Steve has a very real chance (see my essay The Case for Minecraft Steve and the "Smash Bubble" Effect), especially given Minecraft's popularity (being the most sold game of all time).
While I'd ask for Rayman first, I'd love to see the Prince in - The Sands of Time was a fantastic trilogy and he could do some really cool time manipulation stuff in Smash
