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I've heard that as well. Also, my speculation is that Nintendo has really tightened down the bolts on Smash to prevent leaks because we haven't gotten much of anything since Banjo (Terry was a blunder by Nintendo).
First time sucked.
Ah, not just me then. Cool.
I feel that Crazy Dave should at least have some plants work as traditional attacks, like Snapdragon for a forward air, or Bonk Choy as a forward tilt. The main recipients of the placing would bet the smashes and specials. For Wall-Nut, it would mostly be something you can jump over but would be irritating to deal with. And, of course, you can attack it yourself and start a round of Wall-Nut Bowling.
I definitely wouldn't make it any taller than a character's jump height that'd just be too much (and that's not even just trying to compensate for Little Mac, as apperantly the shotos have an even lower initial jump). The issue with walls though is that they are an inherent camping tool. Jumping over the Wall-Nut would just put you at a disadvantage if the opponent is standing next to it (this could be mitigated by not having the Wall-Nut be the same height as or taller than Crazy Dave, this way the strat would just be to not put one down against small characters like Olimar).
I haven’t played any of the Tales game, but this definitely makes me want to move them up in my backlog. The combat seems like it’d be really fun. If Yuri or Lloyd were to play like that in Smash then I’d definitely be down for them getting in.Oh ho ho, we talkin' Tales earlier? Specifically, are we talking Yuri Lowell?
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My time has come.
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Alright, listen up y'all, Yuri Lowell is a certified cool guy. He's rad. He's one of the sassiest characters to ever grace Tales of, and is honestly, in my humble opinion, one of the most fun to control characters in any JRPG ever. And while at first glance he may seem like just another "anime swordsman", Yuri would bring his own unique flavor to the archetype by way of Vesperia's Over Limit mechanic (I'll get to that more in a minute) and his ability to not only wield swords, but also axes! Not only that, but thanks to the way Tales of games work, he has an extensive list of moves to pull from: Ranging from projectiles, super fast jabs, and even a magic field that heals himself and damages enemies. He also has the potential to showcase some of the slickest Final Smashes with Mystic Artes, Vesperia's equivalent to a super move.
Now see, Over Limit is interesting because what it would allow Yuri to do if replicated faithfully in Smash, is give Yuri a brief period of time where he basically has access to animation cancels that allow him to become a combo machine. It also boosts his damage and overall speed quite a bit, but he's still vulnerable and can even be knocked out of the Over Limit state if he's beaten up enough to the point where he gets stunned. It's a bit like Joker's Rebel's Guard, admittedly, except the consequences for knocking him out of it could leave him in a shield break stun.
Most Tales games already play very similarly to Smash Brothers in that you have a neutral attack button and a "special" button. Combat is very combo based, and most fighting game fundamentals apply here: Positioning and reading your opponent is very much part of the game, and there's a whole multitude of strategies to use in each fight depending on your party and who you personally choose to play as: In most Tales of games, you get to choose which of the party members available to you you play as, and they all work radically different from one another. Take a look here if you're interested:
(WARNING, THOUGH! This showcases the game's combos and fights, so if you care about spoilers, maybe don't watch it.)
Now for the content Yuri could bring. Tales games can have a bit of a spotty record with OSTs in my humble opinion (I love Graces to death but my word some of the tracks sound like RPG Maker music), but thankfully, Vesperia is one of the better ones. You have a sick battle theme that changes throughout the course of the story to reflect the current mood of the story and characters, fantastic overworld themes that change just like the battle themes do, and overall great tracks like this. There's also the legendary theme of the game, Ring a Bell.
There's also a whole cast of wonderfully iconic characters that would make for great Spirits and references to iconic moments in the game (I'll refrain from specifics to avoid spoilers). There's also fantastic stage potential with wonderful locations such as Halure, a quiet village with a huge cherry blossom tree forming a barrier around it to protect it from the monsters that roam the world, to the City of Dahngrest, location of the Guild Union that is independent from the main governing force of Terca Lumeries (Vesperia's world) "The Empire". Side note, Dahngarest has a rockin' theme.
I adore Vesperia. I love Yuri Lowell. He's an interesting character that differs from the usual Tales of norm by having a character arc that deals with the concepts of justice and whether or not it's right to take matters into your own hands. He plays off of the game's cast extremely well and helps make up for Vesperia's admittedly lackluster plot once it hits its finale. Lloyd is an excellent choice by all means, and I will be absolutely overjoyed with any Tales fighter, but if I had to take my pick, Yuri's the one. He's just really, really cool.
If you managed to read through this huge atrocity of a wall of text, thank you, lol. I'm no good at doing huge character essays like @tehponycorn or coming up with good arguments like @Scoliosis Jones, but I am a huge Vesperia fan and I wanted to take a moment to share with y'all why I think he's rad. Thank you.
Was the first time the DMC5 leak that had a bunch of actual leaked details about the game and said that Dante would be in Smash, or was it something else?
I wonder if this is worth it, when his fake claim gets circulated and he constantly has to deny that it was real, with uninformed people holding it against him when it turns out the next character isn't Dante. Insiders have had things held against them for less.It's worth noting that this is the hidden text:
I realize that I'm kind of defeating the purpose by acknowledging the hidden content, but I know how quickly rumours or alleged leaks like this can spread.
You were on the nose about DMC5 leak mixing in Smash info. The former was true, the latter was false. The latter may have been done on purpose
Plot Twist: The cycle continues with The Prince of Prince of Persia stealing Dante’s invitation into Smash alongside the reveal of one of his games getting a remake
Yep on both counts.
Nah it's directed at people who don't post in the thread.
Hah, I knew there was a reason I put him as the dark horse pick!
Every odd-numbered DLC, someone gets screwed out of an invitation.
Actually, this would be pretty cool. Prince of Persia's been around since the NES days, codified the Cinematic Platformer, and the reboot was enough to be listed as one of the best games of all time. Plus, it was big enough to get a movie that at least wasn't godawful. This guy would be a great underdog character.
The prophecy
I hope this is real because Sands of Time is and will always be Ubisoft's best game, nobody get mad at me I'm just spitting facts.
FP4 (Terry) was even numbered and he screwed like half of his own company’s roster over
Ugh, that’s really annoying of him. I get it’s annoying that people hang onto every word he says, but he shouldn’t do that in a big ass news drought like this. Maybe he should have an alt account if he just wants to post normally.It's worth noting that this is the hidden text:
I realize that I'm kind of defeating the purpose by acknowledging the hidden content, but I know how quickly rumours or alleged leaks like this can spread.
It feels bad man. It’s almost starting to seem like Dante is a joke amongst insiders because they know he’s definitely not happening or something. :/
There seems to be alternating methods of screwing people over. Odd-numbered titles seem to have a chain of screwing, one after the other, while the even-numbered titles have self-contained mass-screwing. This also applies to Hero's trailer; Remember, Erdrick hijacked the trailer from Eleven halfway through, and even got to pull off the final smash.
yess, another one in the professor Layton cult, I mean guild, I mean fandomSo NateDrake dropped this on ResetEra, and I can't tell if he's hinting at something, or if he knows the guy he's responding to and what they want.
Nintendo Direct Speculation |OT13| is your lucky number..... and am out OT
You should, they are great games. Especially the first trilogy. To this day they are still the reason I still consider the DS my favorite console ever
Nope. It's "leaker"bait.
First time I'm hearing that.
Bruh, did you actually read what was posted.
Apparently not. Kinda hard too as I'm on my phone.
Hell, we have a couple of overpowered traps in past Smash games:
had two Banana Peels, letting him do stuff like infinite people with banana peels.* Needless to say, Smash 4 limited Diddy to one banana peel (yes, there was / is a Diddy infinite in Ultimate, but that one's much more difficult and the dev team at least attempted to patch it out)....And now I'm imagining Dante with Byleth's weapons and Byleth style-switching all over the place. (Come to think of it, does Byleth already Style Switch?)I think you mean this image.
I mean, not necessarily a highly-requested third-party. We could get a big third-party that doesn't get many requests like a Dark Souls rep or the Prince of Persia we just mentioned above, or we could get a big first-party request like Isaac. Besides, I don't think the entire schedule would get uprooted by the pandemic; It was finalized around November, so the big heavy hitters wouldn't vaporize as soon as lockdown kicks in.
Devil May Cry 4 port announcement in the Direct maybe?
The top posts on that page where briefly discussing Layton.
Nate is actually saying "It may make you cry" because this character will, in fact, cause some complaints. Which, since this is the Smash community, makes it impossible to boil down who this character is.
