Official Newcomer/DLC Speculation Discussion

[Shroob]

I mean, if there is a Direct this month, why wouldn't we get a character reveal?


People do realize that if the end date is still going to be Dec 2021, that gives us a meager 18 months, and we're probably not getting anything this month, so we can probably cut that down to 17. While that's plenty of time yes, that's also assuming we get a character roughly 3-4 months between one another. Considering we're probably not going to get any double releases, or back-to-back releases, it seems more than logical to assume that going forward, every character will come out roughly 3-4 months apart.


If there IS a direct this month, which I doubt, we probably won't get another one until November/December, and no, I don't think that in that time we'd get another shadow drop ala Joker. We knew Joker was coming out beforehand, which built up hype. We'd have NO clue who this character is if they just dropped it on us with no warning. Even the ARMs reveal, while a whole 3-4 months out from the actual character, at least told us the series.



If we do get a Direct, there's going to be a character reveal. We're not getting them this month obviously, but a release date slated for sometime in Fall ala Banjo? Absolutely.

 

[Rie Sonomura]

How long has SFV’s DLC been running? Just curious

 

[Michael the Spikester]

Remember the guy who made predictions based on math. This time he's on who is deconfirmed.

 

[DarthEnderX]

Also, hard disagree on Charizard X and Y. If we're getting more Echo Fighters, I'd rather they be different characters, not "same character, just a different version". The last thing Smash needs right now is to make the same mistakes as Mario Kart.

Normally, I'd agree but...

Pokemon Trainer is trash, boy! I want my solo Charizard back!

How long has SFV’s DLC been running? Just curious

We're on season 5. That's 6 characters a year(only 5 this year) for 5 years. That's 29 DLC characters total.

 

[Rie Sonomura]

Remember the guy who made predictions based on math. This time he's on who is deconfirmed.

> “ambiguous” females

And this is where I stop watching

 

[andree123]

Remember the guy who made predictions based on math. This time he's on who is deconfirmed.

No thoughts about the swordsmen.
LOL

 

[N3ON]

Remember the guy who made predictions based on math. This time he's on who is deconfirmed.

If you have to consider ARMS a shooter and partially gender a character based on their weaponry to make your math work, it's bad math.

What, Marth is a guy but also not a guy because of his genderless sword? Makes no sense.

That's where I tapped out.

 

[Deleted member]

Remember the guy who made predictions based on math. This time he's on who is deconfirmed.

>Uses a Bingo Card to determine who isn't in

This feels so reminiscent of Ornl's Google Trend stats and console graphs to determine who will or won't be in Vol 1.

 

[CosmicQuark]

If you have to consider ARMS a shooter and partially gender a character based on their weaponry to make your math work, it's bad math.

What, Marth is a guy but also not a guy because of his genderless sword? Makes no sense.

That's where I tapped out.

While the gender parts is nonsense (and the whole premise of this show is), ARMS was originally advertised as “long range like a shooter, but with your arms!” Which turned me off to the series. Not sure if they kept that marketing gimmick, but haven’t heard many mention that lately.

 

[N3ON]

While the gender parts is nonsense (and the whole premise of this show is), ARMS was originally advertised as “long range like a shooter, but with your arms!” Which turned me off to the series. Not sure if they kept that marketing gimmick, but haven’t heard many mention that lately.

I don't recall them pushing the game as such, but I'm glad they stopped, because while I understand what people mean when they compare it to a shooter, there are much more accurate descriptions out there.

 

[NonSpecificGuy]

You can’t math who’s going to be in anyways. Sakurai isn’t an equation.

 

[Hinata]

You can’t math who’s going to be in anyways. Sakurai isn’t an equation.

But NSG, if I write a thesis about who I think is most likely, then that means they're guaranteed! Why else would I put in all that effort?

 

[CosmicQuark]

I don't recall them pushing the game as such, but I'm glad they stopped, because while I understand what people mean when they compare it to a shooter, there are much more accurate descriptions out there.

I guess I'm recalling back mainly to the first reveal (24:40), where he described it as "It's like boxing, where you hit your opponent with punches, but it's also like shooting, where you aim and fire at distant opponents," but I also recall hearing that pop up again, and again around that time. That and emphasis on "extendable arms" instantly turned me off to the series, felt cookie cutter and generic, though I've obviously warmed up more to it and became less cynical towards it despite the game not being my cup of tea thanks to fans being less obnoxious than the initial marketing push.

EDIT:

You can’t math who’s going to be in anyways. Sakurai isn’t an equation.

But Sakurai taught me to count in binary on my hand. The man is the embodiment of an equation, an enigma.

 

[SneakyLink]

You can’t math who’s going to be in anyways. Sakurai isn’t an equation.

I once tried to use Calculus to determine who was in.

Fortunately for everyone but me, Sakurai has no limits.

 

[Megadoomer]

>Uses a Bingo Card to determine who isn't in

This feels so reminiscent of Ornl's Google Trend stats and console graphs to determine who will or won't be in Vol 1.

At least in this case, I'm 99% sure that the videos in this series are satire/joking.

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

his genderless sword?

I never thought Id laugh as hard at this then I Just did

 

[THE 6r]

Going through Nintendo's Twitter has lead me to one conclusion: They have to announce something BIG soon. I follow the post notifications on Twitter and I've noticed they've been highlighting either the most popular Nintendo titles on Switch or some lesser known 3rd-parties to Nintendo people. The big 3rd parties in their recent feed are Square Enix, Minecraft, and Falcom.

We're releasing a special free #FinalFantasy Crystal Chronicles Remastered Edition demo on launch day, take on up to 13 dungeons together with your friends with one purchase of the full game!

Check out today's trailer to see the other enhancements being made to the game too. pic.twitter.com/t8cYj10s3r

— FINAL FANTASY (@FinalFantasy) June 26, 2020

Experience the music of KINGDOM HEARTS like never before in #KingdomHearts Melody of Memory, an all-new rhythm-action game coming to #NintendoSwitch in 2020! pic.twitter.com/ACCu26oGx5

— Nintendo of America (@NintendoAmerica) June 23, 2020

The first tweet from is Square Enix announcing a demo for Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles Remastered Edition. This game has been known about for months. The second tweet is a brand new project we've only just heard about for Kingdom Hearts. It was leaked a couple days earlier when people went through the files of KHIII and found the logo.

Sweat drips down your brow. A wall of vines blocks your path. A distant rumble of something stirring deep in the undergrowth.

Your adventure is far from over! The first DLC, Jungle Awakens, arrives July 1st – already included with the Hero Pass!

↣ https://t.co/12Exu8gUdn ↢ pic.twitter.com/A7etyosrBi

— Minecraft Dungeons (@dungeonsgame) June 26, 2020

Take on new missions, battle new mobs, and fight the mighty Jungle Abomination as threats roar to life in the #MinecraftDungeons: Jungle Awakens DLC, available now on #NintendoSwitch!https://t.co/7OPGCqWI0l pic.twitter.com/mWGbF7KZ69

— Nintendo of America (@NintendoAmerica) July 1, 2020

These are the Tweets for Minecraft Dungeons. Again, stuff already known about.

The legend of Class VII begins anew in Trails of Cold Steel III! Prepare a new generation of heroes and guide them towards victory in The Legend of Heroes: Trails of Cold Steel III, available now for #NintendoSwitch!https://t.co/zUDhSwZ2CZ pic.twitter.com/MVQF0iTm0b

— Nintendo of America (@NintendoAmerica) June 30, 2020

Vanquish the creatures of the night when Ys IX: Monstrum Nox comes to #NintendoSwitch in 2021! pic.twitter.com/uFYDn5UbvR

— Nintendo of America (@NintendoAmerica) June 23, 2020

Falcom is a name that many Nintendo fans probably aren't familiar with. They are a Japanese dev that historically focused on Playstation and PC games in Japan, not releasing internationally until the 2010's. Now they are putting a ton of games on the Switch suddenly from their two most prominent series in Trails and Ys. Trails of Cold Steel III we already knew about. Ys IX is genuinely new and, from what I can tell, was not leaked ahead of time.

That's it for major 3rd party announcements in the past few weeks in Nintendo's feed.There is other stuff on there talking about projects we already were aware of, but the fact that I can only find references to games that were: A. already out B. already known about or C. New, but from a smaller company in their recent feed (with the exception of KH MoM and Ys IX) indicates something much larger is going on behind the scenes.

 

[PK-remling Fire]

Remember the guy who made predictions based on math. This time he's on who is deconfirmed.

What?? Mechanica isn't getting in, not because she's from ARMS, but solely because there's too much robot representation?

Curse you Min Min and your genderless dragons!

 

[GoodGrief741]

Remember the guy who made predictions based on math. This time he's on who is deconfirmed.

I enjoy making up bull**** math with dumb consequences more than most, but... Arms being a fighter+shooter? That's a stretch, he could have just approximated the fighter genre to one slot and gotten the same result. Plus, shouldn't Min Min's gender of part woman part machine (which is also a huge stretch) have eliminated other ARMS ladies, given they're also part machine (to those standards)?

And the ambiguous category... Well that should have been treated much better (or not differentiated at all), plus it's not like Birdo's the only character who fits that criteria anyway.

I get the feeling that the dude doesn't actually take the math seriously and it'll be fun to watch how he tries to spin it if one of the rules he came up with ends up breaking.

 

[Kokiden]

And we have a year to go.

Imagine if then Sakurai is packing things up only for Nintendo to go "Sike, go makes us DLC pack 3"

I can see Nintendo doing this if the DLC sell extremely well, and if Covid19 is still affecting things in the industry.

Making DLC seem like an easier way to make money during this time than developing a full blown, brand new Smash game.

Or I could just be entirely wrong lol.

 

[GoodGrief741]

Going through Nintendo's Twitter has lead me to one conclusion: They have to announce something BIG soon. I follow the post notifications on Twitter and I've noticed they've been highlighting either the most popular Nintendo titles on Switch or some lesser known 3rd-parties to Nintendo people. The big 3rd parties in their recent feed are Square Enix, Minecraft, and Falcom.

We're releasing a special free #FinalFantasy Crystal Chronicles Remastered Edition demo on launch day, take on up to 13 dungeons together with your friends with one purchase of the full game!

Check out today's trailer to see the other enhancements being made to the game too. pic.twitter.com/t8cYj10s3r

— FINAL FANTASY (@FinalFantasy) June 26, 2020

Experience the music of KINGDOM HEARTS like never before in #KingdomHearts Melody of Memory, an all-new rhythm-action game coming to #NintendoSwitch in 2020! pic.twitter.com/ACCu26oGx5

— Nintendo of America (@NintendoAmerica) June 23, 2020

The first tweet from is Square Enix announcing a demo for Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles Remastered Edition. This game has been known about for months. The second tweet is a brand new project we've only just heard about for Kingdom Hearts. It was leaked a couple days earlier when people went through the files of KHIII and found the logo.

Sweat drips down your brow. A wall of vines blocks your path. A distant rumble of something stirring deep in the undergrowth.

Your adventure is far from over! The first DLC, Jungle Awakens, arrives July 1st – already included with the Hero Pass!

↣ https://t.co/12Exu8gUdn ↢ pic.twitter.com/A7etyosrBi

— Minecraft Dungeons (@dungeonsgame) June 26, 2020

Take on new missions, battle new mobs, and fight the mighty Jungle Abomination as threats roar to life in the #MinecraftDungeons: Jungle Awakens DLC, available now on #NintendoSwitch!https://t.co/7OPGCqWI0l pic.twitter.com/mWGbF7KZ69

— Nintendo of America (@NintendoAmerica) July 1, 2020

These are the Tweets for Minecraft Dungeons. Again, stuff already known about.

The legend of Class VII begins anew in Trails of Cold Steel III! Prepare a new generation of heroes and guide them towards victory in The Legend of Heroes: Trails of Cold Steel III, available now for #NintendoSwitch!https://t.co/zUDhSwZ2CZ pic.twitter.com/MVQF0iTm0b

— Nintendo of America (@NintendoAmerica) June 30, 2020

Vanquish the creatures of the night when Ys IX: Monstrum Nox comes to #NintendoSwitch in 2021! pic.twitter.com/uFYDn5UbvR

— Nintendo of America (@NintendoAmerica) June 23, 2020

Falcom is a name that many Nintendo fans probably aren't familiar with. They are a Japanese dev that historically focused on Playstation and PC games in Japan, not releasing internationally until the 2010's. Now they are putting a ton of games on the Switch suddenly from their two most prominent series in Trails and Ys. Trails of Cold Steel III we already knew about. Ys IX is genuinely new and, from what I can tell, was not leaked ahead of time.

That's it for major 3rd party announcements in the past few weeks in Nintendo's feed.There is other stuff on there talking about projects we already were aware of, but the fact that I can only find references to games that were: A. already out B. already known about or C. New, but from a smaller company in their recent feed (with the exception of KH MoM and Ys IX) indicates something much larger is going on behind the scenes.

Those just seem like perfectly normal tweets that don't indicate nothing special.

 

[SpectreJordan]

If it happens at all, let alone in July, it'll probably be after Origami King's release.

And you know...I'm kind of against revealing all the characters in advance, but I do kinda wish Nintendo would at least reveal their release windows.

Microsoft’s big event is apparently on the 23rd, so I don’t think Nintendo will have a Direct that week. Paper Mario could use some more promotion & a Direct would help a lot.

If we’re getting a Direct this month then we’re 100% getting some Smash news, even if it’s another Guess Who game.

 

[MisterMike]

You can’t math who’s going to be in anyways. Sakurai isn’t an equation.

To be fair he did teach us how to count in binary, so he's at least about 15% math.

 

[Faso115]

If it's another guess who then it will be definitely be a Pokemon because i struggle to think any other franchise where they can pull that BS again.

ARMS had a roster, everyone had the same shot so you could speculate endlessly about them.

Pokemon has an even bigger roster, they could even be bigger dikheads and say it could be from any generation just to screw with speculation because why the f not

 

[THE 6r]

Those just seem like perfectly normal tweets that don't indicate nothing special.

The rest of their feed is recycling content. The one new 1st party thing is Min Min. Nothing else is known about past Paper Mario. Their feed is the same few games over and over again. These are the only big 3rd party announcements on the feed.

 

[ZelDan]

The Sakurai equation is still one of the equations that mathematicians worldwide still can't seem to crack.

 

[Jomosensual]

If it's another guess who then it will be definitely be a Pokemon because i struggle to think any other franchise where they can pull that BS again.

ARMS had a roster, everyone had the same shot so you could speculate endlessly about them.

Pokemon has an even bigger roster, they could even be bigger dikheads and say it could be from any generation just to screw with speculation because why the f not

I don't really think Nintendo cares as much about the speculation scene as you're implying they do. 99% sure that the only reason we had the arms thing happen was because they wanted didn't want to leave us hanging for 6 months with 0 info on fighters pass 2.

 

[SharkLord]

Remember the guy who made predictions based on math. This time he's on who is deconfirmed.

I haven't seen the video, but based on the concept and what you guys have been saying, it sounds like an ultra spicy hot take that shouldn't be touched with a 39-and-a-half foot pole

You can’t math who’s going to be in anyways. Sakurai isn’t an equation.

Actually, he is an equation; Specifically, the absolute last digit of pi.

If it's another guess who then it will be definitely be a Pokemon because i struggle to think any other franchise where they can pull that BS again.

ARMS had a roster, everyone had the same shot so you could speculate endlessly about them.

Pokemon has an even bigger roster, they could even be bigger dikheads and say it could be from any generation just to screw with speculation because why the f not

Oh god, what if we were saddled with a League of Legends guessing game, with all 148 characters and then some? Rage at Tencent aside, that would be absolutely brutal. Bonus points if it's the last fighter of the pass but we have to wait starting from the second announcement. Just sit back and watch the entire fandom go up in flames.

 

[Garteam]

I decided to look at the list of best-selling video game franchises to see which major Japanese franchises were missing from Smash Ultimate. I used sub-20 million in sales as my cut-off point and marked series with playable characters as green, series in Smash without playable characters as yellow, and series not in Smash as red. Here's what I found:

Spoiler

• Mario
• Pokemon
• Wii (Depends how you count the Miis)
• Final Fantasy
• Mario Kart
• Sonic the Hedgehog
• Wii Sports (Once again, depends how you count the Miis)
• The Legend of Zelda
• Resident Evil
• Dragon Quest
• Monster Hunter
• Super Smash Bros (Say it with Mii now)
• Donkey Kong
• Metal Gear
• Dragon Ball (Not happening for obvious reasons, but it still technically meets the criteria)
• Mario Party
• Tekken
• Street Fighter
• Wii Fit
• Game & Watch
• Pac-Man
• Mario Sports
• Kirby
• Mega Man
• Animal Crossing
• Brain Age
• Gundam (Not happening for obvious reasons, but it still technically meets the criteria)
• Kingdom Hearts
• Nintendogs
• Souls
• Mario & Sonic (There are no references to these games in particular, but both Mario and Sonic are in the game...)
• Power Pros
• Devil May Cry
• Yu-Gi-Oh (Not happening for obvious reasons, but it still technically meets the criteria)
• Castlevania
• Frogger
• Simple
• Tales

I'm gonna be honest, these results actually kind of surprised me. I didn't expect this many entries in the list are featured in Smash. Not only that, but it's mostly the relatively smaller series that currently have no representation in Smash Ultimate. I mean, cutting out the ineligible Dragon Ball and Gundam, you have to go through the 25 largest franchises on the list before you reach Kingdom Hearts, the biggest Japanese franchise to be completely absent from Smash.

 

[ZelDan]

I decided to look at the list of best-selling video game franchises to see which major Japanese franchises were missing from Smash Ultimate. I used sub-20 million in sales as my cut-off point and marked series with playable characters as green, series in Smash without playable characters as yellow, and series not in Smash as red. Here's what I found:

Spoiler

• Mario
• Pokemon
• Wii (Depends how you count the Miis)
• Final Fantasy
• Mario Kart
• Sonic the Hedgehog
• Wii Sports (Once again, depends how you count the Miis)
• The Legend of Zelda
• Resident Evil
• Dragon Quest
• Monster Hunter
• Super Smash Bros (Say it with Mii now)
• Donkey Kong
• Metal Gear
• Dragon Ball (Not happening for obvious reasons, but it still technically meets the criteria)
• Mario Party
• Tekken
• Street Fighter
• Wii Fit
• Game & Watch
• Pac-Man
• Mario Sports
• Kirby
• Mega Man
• Animal Crossing
• Brain Age
• Gundam (Not happening for obvious reasons, but it still technically meets the criteria)
• Kingdom Hearts
• Nintendogs
• Souls
• Mario & Sonic (There are no references to these games in particular, but both Mario and Sonic are in the game...)
• Power Pros
• Devil May Cry
• Yu-Gi-Oh (Not happening for obvious reasons, but it still technically meets the criteria)
• Castlevania
• Frogger
• Simple
• Tales

I'm gonna be honest, these results actually kind of surprised me. I didn't expect this many entries in the list are featured in Smash. Not only that, but it's mostly the relatively smaller series that currently have no representation in Smash Ultimate. I mean, cutting out the ineligible Dragon Ball and Gundam, you have to go through the 25 largest franchises on the list before you reach Kingdom Hearts, the biggest Japanese franchise to be completely absent from Smash.

Uhhh, what's simple supposed to be?

Interesting data though. Kind of surprised Tales of is there. I know the series has been around a long time and has had a good number of games, I just never realized they sold that well (or some of them did anyways)

 

[Nightguything]

I decided to look at the list of best-selling video game franchises to see which major Japanese franchises were missing from Smash Ultimate. I used sub-20 million in sales as my cut-off point and marked series with playable characters as green, series in Smash without playable characters as yellow, and series not in Smash as red. Here's what I found:

Spoiler

• Mario
• Pokemon
• Wii (Depends how you count the Miis)
• Final Fantasy
• Mario Kart
• Sonic the Hedgehog
• Wii Sports (Once again, depends how you count the Miis)
• The Legend of Zelda
• Resident Evil
• Dragon Quest
• Monster Hunter
• Super Smash Bros (Say it with Mii now)
• Donkey Kong
• Metal Gear
• Dragon Ball (Not happening for obvious reasons, but it still technically meets the criteria)
• Mario Party
• Tekken
• Street Fighter
• Wii Fit
• Game & Watch
• Pac-Man
• Mario Sports
• Kirby
• Mega Man
• Animal Crossing
• Brain Age
• Gundam (Not happening for obvious reasons, but it still technically meets the criteria)
• Kingdom Hearts
• Nintendogs
• Souls
• Mario & Sonic (There are no references to these games in particular, but both Mario and Sonic are in the game...)
• Power Pros
• Devil May Cry
• Yu-Gi-Oh (Not happening for obvious reasons, but it still technically meets the criteria)
• Castlevania
• Frogger
• Simple
• Tales

I'm gonna be honest, these results actually kind of surprised me. I didn't expect this many entries in the list are featured in Smash. Not only that, but it's mostly the relatively smaller series that currently have no representation in Smash Ultimate. I mean, cutting out the ineligible Dragon Ball and Gundam, you have to go through the 25 largest franchises on the list before you reach Kingdom Hearts, the biggest Japanese franchise to be completely absent from Smash.

Kingdom hearts, souls, devil may cry and tales? Huh go figure, I love all of those.

 

[Perkilator]

I decided to look at the list of best-selling video game franchises to see which major Japanese franchises were missing from Smash Ultimate. I used sub-20 million in sales as my cut-off point and marked series with playable characters as green, series in Smash without playable characters as yellow, and series not in Smash as red. Here's what I found:

Spoiler

• Mario
• Pokemon
• Wii (Depends how you count the Miis)
• Final Fantasy
• Mario Kart
• Sonic the Hedgehog
• Wii Sports (Once again, depends how you count the Miis)
• The Legend of Zelda
• Resident Evil
• Dragon Quest
• Monster Hunter
• Super Smash Bros (Say it with Mii now)
• Donkey Kong
• Metal Gear
• Dragon Ball (Not happening for obvious reasons, but it still technically meets the criteria)
• Mario Party
• Tekken
• Street Fighter
• Wii Fit
• Game & Watch
• Pac-Man
• Mario Sports
• Kirby
• Mega Man
• Animal Crossing
• Brain Age
• Gundam (Not happening for obvious reasons, but it still technically meets the criteria)
• Kingdom Hearts
• Nintendogs
• Souls
• Mario & Sonic (There are no references to these games in particular, but both Mario and Sonic are in the game...)
• Power Pros
• Devil May Cry
• Yu-Gi-Oh (Not happening for obvious reasons, but it still technically meets the criteria)
• Castlevania
• Frogger
• Simple
• Tales

I'm gonna be honest, these results actually kind of surprised me. I didn't expect this many entries in the list are featured in Smash. Not only that, but it's mostly the relatively smaller series that currently have no representation in Smash Ultimate. I mean, cutting out the ineligible Dragon Ball and Gundam, you have to go through the 25 largest franchises on the list before you reach Kingdom Hearts, the biggest Japanese franchise to be completely absent from Smash.

I was actually expecting Sakura Wars to be on here, weirdly enough.

 

[Guynamednelson]

I was actually expecting Sakura Wars to be on here, weirdly enough.

That series has only sold 4.5 million total. Wikipedia's list stops at 5 million, so it wouldn't even be there.

 

[lordvaati]

No, I don't know why I was banned in the first place.

I once had my account hijacked way back yonder and had to PM a Mod for an password fix to get it back.
For safety's sake I think the best move is to get in contact with one to go see what was up.

 

[Garteam]

Uhhh, what's simple supposed to be?

Interesting data though. Kind of surprised Tales of is there. I know the series has been around a long time and has had a good number of games, I just never realized they sold that well (or some of them did anyways)

I actually hadn't heard of it until now myself, but it's essentially a group of budget games published by D3 Publisher that basically encompass every genre under the sun. Most seem to be generic sports/table games, but there's a few licensed games thrown in there as well. The only games I have heard of on the Wikipedia's list were from the Densha de Go series, and I only know about that because of Joel from Vinesauce.

Honestly, I'm not sure I would personally count Simple as a formal series. Based on my limited research, it seems more like a label similar to New Play Control or Player's Choice. However, Wikipedia had it on their list, so I figured I'd include it anyway.

 

[Guynamednelson]

The only games I have heard of on the Wikipedia's list were from the Densha de Go series, and I only know about that because of Joel from Vinesauce.

I'd figure Earth Defense Force would be more recognizable.

 

[Captain Shwampy]

I was actually expecting Sakura Wars to be on here, weirdly enough.

In terms of Sega IPs

Football Manager, Total Wars, and Puyo Puyo should be high in that list

 

[MarioRaccoon]

I decided to look at the list of best-selling video game franchises to see which major Japanese franchises were missing from Smash Ultimate. I used sub-20 million in sales as my cut-off point and marked series with playable characters as green, series in Smash without playable characters as yellow, and series not in Smash as red. Here's what I found:

I'm gonna be honest, these results actually kind of surprised me. I didn't expect this many entries in the list are featured in Smash. Not only that, but it's mostly the relatively smaller series that currently have no representation in Smash Ultimate. I mean, cutting out the ineligible Dragon Ball and Gundam, you have to go through the 25 largest franchises on the list before you reach Kingdom Hearts, the biggest Japanese franchise to be completely absent from Smash.

If you removed first party IPs and franchises that are not born in video-games (like Dragon Ball or Gundam), you get (in bold are those that has Smash representation, of any type):

1) Final Fantasy
2) Sonic the Hedgehog
3) Resident Evil
4) Dragon Quest
5) Monster Hunter
6) Metal Gear
7) Tekken
8) Street Fighter
9) Pac-Man
10) Mega Man
11) Kingdom Hearts
12) Souls
13) Power Pros
14) Devil May Cry
15) Castlevania
16) Frogger
17) Simple
18) Tales
19) Megami Tensei (includes Persona)
20) Professor Layton

Its great that the top 10 best selling Japanese IPs are in Smash, and 7 of them with playable fighters. Its interesting to note that in the first 3 games (Brawl, 4 and 4 DLC) they go for the biggest names (Sonic and Snake in Brawl, Megaman and Pacman in 4, Ryu and Cloud in 4 DLC), then in Ultimate they decided to start exploring IPs that are a bit less successful in sales (although in base game we got Monster Hunter, as an AT sure but I think that was an internal decision with thinking about the best way to represent that IP, if they want, they could have add MH as a fighter). I hope that in this FP2 they will concentrate in top 11-20 with more representation like Kingdom Hearts (that is likely it will get in top 10 very soon) and Devil May Cry. I think that Dark Souls can work as a boss just like Monster Hunter, rather than a fighter.

 

[Guynamednelson]

In terms of Sega IPs

Football Manager, Total Wars, and Puyo Puyo should be high in that list

The first two aren't on there because they're developed by British teams. Not sure why Puyo Puyo isn't there though.

 

[Perkilator]

I think that Dark Souls can work as a boss just like Monster Hunter, rather than a fighter.

I used to have thoughts about a boss battle against Seath the Scaleless a year back.