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I mean...there's the REALLY simple explanation that...he wasn't a Nintendo character. And we didn't get 3rd(or even 2nd) party reps back then.
I'm gonna disagree. I think some of those boxes would generate salt at this point, not alleviate it. You're talking about another JRPG protag, from a mediocre entry in an already represented series, that some will see as a shill pick.
Because then they'd be shill picks.
Oh Lord no, do you know the amount of people out there who hate:
I'd say Sora too.
What would he be shilling?
I don't think he'll make at this point but I'm willing to bet anything his reveal video won't get 80K dislikes.
I mean, Pokemon.
But I'd rather not debate the definition of 2nd party. For me, looking back now as an adult, if they had enough time (which given how long game development is, I don't think they did), the other reason for not including them would be the reason Sakurai gave for not including their trophies in Melee, which he considered--it was hard to communicate with Rare, in Europe, at the time. Still in 2019, he says he was curious how things would work out working with Kirkhope overseas on one music track, but was happy with the results. To me, it's nothing against Western characters, and more to do with the geographic logistics.Touché. As a kid, that would have been the furthest from my mind. Puts things in perspective.Because then they'd be shill picks.
Honestly the hate if he got in would be huge. It would piss me off so much to see that much hate for a series that has been overdue for a second rep.
That's not how licensing works. Nintendo actually owned Rareware and their IP's. Sakurai already barely got the game out in time, so it's far more realistic than he couldn't really put together a unique fighter without more time. They fit the timing window, but he lacked actual time to capitalize on that. Even the last 4 characters had to be based upon previous ones to make work. It's funny that 14/15 NPC's were outright clones with very slight changes too. The assets being reused was clear as day, but more importantly, it shows how little time he had to get the game out(and it was known the game had less time in the oven than others. Its only competition for that was Melee, which couldn't be delayed either due to being needed to sell the GameCube).
Well, that should be obvious. That's a pretty high bar to surpass. The request wasn't to find the characters that wouldn't surpass Byleth's dislike rate, because that'd be most characters. I'm just saying Rex isn't going to be even near the least controversial character.
Based on what?
But Darth, it's only a shill pick if I don't like it! Otherwise, the character got in based on their own merits and nothing else!
Again, what would Rex be shilling? A 3 year old game that no longer gets DLC?
I'm just poking fun at how shill pick is only ever used when the character is disliked, though I do fear XBD will add bonus content to go "Hey guys it's Shoutychild Divingsuit from XB2!", So he'd shill that
Consider it more of a worry from me. It wouldn't be Byleth level but some of the fanbase can be stingy and rush to the hate. Then again most of my assumption is based on looking at certain forums. Not here.
I find it likely that Smash 64's dev period was kinda crunched. And B-K weren't high on the priority list: Bowser and Dedede were scrapped, with Mewtwo and Marth as the other considered characters.
He'd shill a game in which he doesn't even appear other than potentially a cameo fanservice appearance that nobody knows will happen for sure?
People have argued 'shill pick' for less
I think I covered the first paragraph in my previous post, though not as well as you did. Time constraints were pretty much it. I didn't think of that in my first reply, heh.
Meanwhile 10 year old me would have been confused because I had to be doing something wrong if I couldn't unlock Snorlax in Melee, he was on the back of the box after all
I mean. It's true tho, remember people dismissing Hero entirely solely for a shill pick because a port got stuck in development hell?
I mean, some people argued that Erdrick, protagonist of a 30+ year old game, would be a shill pick, so that's accurate.
I simply saw the first game at a friend's 64. Before I had a 64. I bought it in due time, and loved it since. Melee I got with my first Gamecube. Brawl was the first game I preordered, and even played in the tourney. Twas great. 4 I preordered both versions too, and was in that tourney as well(for the Wii U version). Ultimate I preordered and enjoyed a lot since. Pichu being back is sweeeeet.
I read a magazine, saw like 5 pages om Brawl and got interested cause I saw that blue chuckle**** Sonic. I also saw a line saying Samus' rival Ridley was a boss, thinking Ridley was probably a blue person who looks like Iron Man as Shadow was my only source for a rival in video games back then
I think at most. Making Luminary the default skin was the only promotional part of the character.
Impossible! Everything from that character was solely to promote the port! This is an insult to Smash's legacy. There shall be riots! No longer shall us Smash fans allow this disgrace to walk the Earth and sully our pure Nintendo game! We shall go to war with Sakurai himse-Oh my goood Banjo's in thank you Sakurai I'll never ask for anything again! Now where are the first parties you miserable ****?
I was really young when Melee came out, so I have no memory of first playing smash, it’s just kind of always been there in my life.
My dad brought home Melee and I saw that elfin dude from Zelda and orange Halo, and little ***** ass kid me thought "yeah, I guess this is a good game".
Before I start, thought from your description that you're from Iceland. Turns out I'm wrong probably.
I was one of the few kids of my generation who didn't like pokèmon (anime and games), and Smash (64) was that game where you could punch Pikachu in the face.
Kratos?
That's...not true. Nintendo owned a minority stake in Rare, which is why when Microsoft bought a controlling majority, Rare, and it's IPs, went to Microsoft.
It's still for sale isn't it?
That and the little bit in the trailer where it goes Super Smash Bros. Ultimate x Dragon Quest XI S: Echoes of an Elusive Age - Definitive Edition. It was pretty funny just because the crazy title made it not so subtle lol.
Smash 64 was one of the games on the N64 for as long as I can remember and I always enjoyed playing it at my nan's house after school when I was younger. Melee was also around the same time so I was enjoying both games but it's safe to say Melee had a bigger impact on me; Marth and Roy of course introduced me to Fire Emblem, but there was also discovering at a friend of my dad's place that Mewtwo and Mr. Game & Watch were playable - characters I had no idea were in the game at all. I remember asking how to unlock both of them and safe to say was so happy to finally unlock both of them.
Smash 64 & Melee did have 2nd Party reps through the following series: Kirby (HAL), Pokémon (Game Freak), EarthBound (Itoi/HAL/Creatures), & Fire Emblem (Intelligent Systems).
I rented Smash 64 when I was almost 20 and liked it?
