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Calamitas

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So he was a controversial guy who had inside info and had drama? How? Also who’s this Sabi guy?
He didn't even have any actual insider info. Just some rumors that he took from the Discord, posted in the Geno thread, and theorized with them.

As for Sabi. . . well, to give you the very short version: Sorta credible-ish leaker (also occasionally active on SmashBoards) whose credibility is a major source of discussion. Tends to have. . . some ego issues. Was also involved in some recent drama.

Probably whatever Calamitas said
Heropon very right!
 
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Nintendo prepared a list of characters they were interested in and asked Sakurai which ones he could make. Sakurai told them which ones he thought he could turn into a fighter, and then Nintendo handled the legalities.

Never said a thing about Nintendo choosing some Namco character(s) and forcing Sakurai to make them. Heck we don't even know if they had a Namco character on their list to begin with.
Nintendo gave a list of characters to Sakurai to choose is a fan theory. In his Famitsu column, he clearly stated that Nintendo asked him specific characters if he can make it viable or not. There is a possibility of Nintendo chose characters to cater Sakurai's preference but the dude is a gaming maniac. He loves a lot of games. I can tell that's more than people here not even recognizing Terry or KOS-MOS.
And Sakurai is a Xeno fan. When he held a concert, he decided to play Xeno series medley for encore showing the huge X sign on the background screen and he was so happy about it.
 

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god, remember when nopon speech gimmicks were actually funny and charming
meh meh
I've actually been trying my best to block out the memory of Tora, his entire human maid fetishizing bloodline, and any other Nopon in 2 entirely. It helps that much of the Nopon's involvement in the storyline amounts to nothing but filler and that Torna didn't really feature any main character Nopon.
 
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He didn't even have any actual insider info. Just some rumors that he took from the Discord, posted in the Geno thread, and theorized with them.

As for Sabi. . . well, to give you the very short version: Sorta credible-ish leaker (also occasionally active on SmashBoards) whose credibility is a major source of discussion. Tends to have. . . some ego issues. Was also involved in some recent drama.



Heropon very right!
Spicy stuff. When I heard the name It reminded me of this guy:
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I've actually been trying my best to block out the memory of Tora, his entire human maid fetishizing bloodline, and any other Nopon in 2 entirely. It helps that much of the Nopon's involvement in the storyline amounts to nothing but filler and that Torna didn't really feature any main character Nopon.
remember when xc2 gave us an entire filler chapter focusing on tora of all party members right after the uraya chapter
there are many things i like about xc2
tora is not one of them
 

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remember when xc2 gave us an entire filler chapter focusing on tora of all party members right after the uraya chapter
there are many things i like about xc2
tora is not one of them
And remember when Bana was brought back later on as a villain for no good reason, had you fight his stupid maid robot all over again, and then had it blow for what the game tried to play out as a serious and emotional death scene, which then was only further undermined when Nia revealed that she has the power to bring back the dead?
There are few things I like about 2.
The story is not one of them.
 

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Speaking of Toxtriciy, is it the Lucario of this new generation?
Maybe not to the same extent, as Lucario got a movie, but I think they're shaping it up to be a major Pokemon. It's the only Galar Pokemon with an upcoming G-Max form.
 

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Gain and The Japer are two prominent vigilantes who were once apart of Fatman's hero cult. As the two rose to power, Fatman tried to disband the group entirely and retire peacefully, while he was still head honcho. Two weeks has passed since his retirement. However, Fatman couldn't leave his old life behind. He had to go back to crime fighting. This time, he's going to do it alone... Well, with the occasional help from Alfredo and the rest of The Fat Family, but they don't count. Unfortunately for Fatman, while he was out patrolling the streets, he runs into a couple of old pals. Unbeknownst to our caked crusader, the group never disbanded.
I get that this is satire and probably wasn't intended to be a fully accurate re-telling of everything that happened, but....

I was never part of the leakers' group. I was actually told by other people about Fatman getting ousted from the group and decided to confront him about it. I had no personal stake in it (I think I had only spoken directly to Fatman once or twice prior to all of this, and it was way back during the days of SSB4 DLC), all I wanted was for the truth to come out.

It's something I've done in the past. Just last year, I did the same thing to loz18 back when he was attempting to re-insert himself into the Skull Kid thread without addressing his months-worth of fake leaks.
 
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You guys should make memes about this whole leak saga, sounds entertaining.
 

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Toxtricity would be cool, but everyone knows which Pokemon I'm rooting for.

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Leon isn't a Pokemon, silly. He's a champion.
Isn't that right Charizard?

Im sorry but everyone look at this busy looking suit suit that comes with smash in a sweepstakes
View attachment 253197Ok carry on
When I saw the prize list had 2 Mario suits, I assumed it was some lame-ass Halloween jank.
That... I actually want.

Nice.

Also I think I’ve deduced the identity of “The Fatman”
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HERE COMES DAREDEVIL!
 
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You know I just found out something, the last character in pass is actually Vin Diesel from Teh-Ken and from the Fast and the Furious series (known as A todo Gas in Spanish ) the VGA was a hint on the upcoming character and Kos-Mos was probably like to fool everyone.
 

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I get that this is satire and probably wasn't intended to be a fully accurate re-telling of everything that happened, but....

I was never part of the leakers' group. I was actually told by other people about Fatman getting ousted from the group and decided to confront him about it. I had no personal stake in it (I think I had only spoken directly to Fatman once or twice prior to all of this, and it was way back during the days of SSB4 DLC), all I wanted was for the truth to come out.

It's something I've done in the past. Just last year, I did the same thing to loz18 back when he was attempting to re-insert himself into the Skull Kid thread without addressing his months-worth of fake leaks.
It is 100% inaccurate; I just roll with whatever quotes I come across in this thread and put them in an original Batman parody narrative; the first few chapters spawned because people kept asking who Fatman was dramatically (and out of context, it was hilarious/ confusing to people out of the loop, myself included). I should probably add a Law and Order disclaimer like "The following story is fictional and does not depict any actual person or event." But thanks for the clarification.

BTW, your quote was a goldmine.

More on topic... here's hoping for a December reveal. I also can't wait for the livestream on the 23rd. Whether Smash gets brought up during it or not, it's definitely worth the watch.
 
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Speaking of Toxtriciy, is it the Lucario of this new generation?
Well, you are handed one(or it's preevolution anyway) partway though the game. Kinda like Lucario was in X/Y.

Maybe not to the same extent, as Lucario got a movie, but I think they're shaping it up to be a major Pokemon. It's the only Galar Pokemon with an upcoming G-Max form.
Melmetal seemingly does as well. Even though he's not even obtainable yet.

You guys should make memes about this whole leak saga, sounds entertaining.
Please post them somewhere else if they do. That **** serves no purpose here.

Are you perhaps referring to the undefeated champion Leon™ and his unbeatable Charizard™?
More like his unbeatable Haxorous. Damn that thing...
 
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It is 100% inaccurate; I just roll with whatever quotes I come across in this thread and put them in an original Batman parody narrative; the first few chapters spawned because people kept asking who Fatman was dramatically (and out of context, it was hilarious/ confusing to people out of the loop, myself included). I should probably add a Law and Order disclaimer like "The following story is fictional and does not depict any actual person or event." But thanks for the clarification.

BTW, your quote was a goldmine.

More on topic... here's hoping for a December reveal. I also can't wait for the livestream on the 23rd.
what livestream on the 23rd?
 

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what livestream on the 23rd?
It isn't about Super Smash but I believe she's referring to this.

If you want to entertain something, Nier series producer Yosuke Saito announced a Christmas Niconico livestream/interview he is hosting with several Japanese developers including Sakurai and Yoko Taro. Joining them include Square-Enix's Takashi Anzai, PlatinumGames' Hideki Kamiya, and former Square-Enix employee Jin Fujisawa.

 

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Please there be a transcript of it released, I want to see how it goes. Isn't it true you can't access NicoNico unless you live in Japan?
I'm not sure if something changed recently, though I remember myself creating a Niconico account years ago, and it worked, it allowed me to watch videos on the site.
I never uploaded anything, just for watching, though I think it's possible unless they changed it.

You can't watch unless you have an account, that's it I think.
 

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Speaking of Toxtriciy, is it the Lucario of this new generation?
Too soon to say. It's certainly popular, but there's no telling how long it'll last and whether or not Game Freak will continue promoting it going forward. I know a lot of people consider the Gigantamax form to be a big deal, but that's something that will come just as quickly as it goes. We need to see a continuous flow of merch and promotional material like Mimikyu got. Also doesn't help that it wasn't revealed prior to the game's release, so Pokemon like Wooloo, Yamper, and Corviknight already have a leg up on the competition.

This isn't really something we can answer anytime soon. Might take a year or so before we start getting an idea.
 

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I've actually been trying my best to block out the memory of Tora, his entire human maid fetishizing bloodline, and any other Nopon in 2 entirely. It helps that much of the Nopon's involvement in the storyline amounts to nothing but filler and that Torna didn't really feature any main character Nopon.
There was a sidequest involving Sheeba (blade in the floating bathtub) where she gets scammed by Nopon, so she gets out of the bath tub, walks up to one of the Nopon and ****ing football kicks it into space and that's probably the best optional sidequest I have ever done because of that alone.
 
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I've actually been trying my best to block out the memory of Tora, his entire human maid fetishizing bloodline, and any other Nopon in 2 entirely. It helps that much of the Nopon's involvement in the storyline amounts to nothing but filler and that Torna didn't really feature any main character Nopon.
He's leagues better than Tatsu though. The joke was only funny when Lin actually got him into the pot. Other than that he's just Riki, but without actually doing anything useful, causing his "I'm the big hero and you're the sidekicks!" attitude to be annoying instead of endearing.

EDIT: Unlike most of the cast, he's even one note in his side quests. So there's nothing you're really missing from him if you just play the main story.

And remember when Bana was brought back later on as a villain for no good reason, had you fight his stupid maid robot all over again, and then had it blow for what the game tried to play out as a serious and emotional death scene, which then was only further undermined when Nia revealed that she has the power to bring back the dead?
There are few things I like about 2.
The story is not one of them.
Would Nia be able to heal Poppi though? She's not alive from a scientific standpoint.
 
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Toxtricity wasn't advertised once, I think on those grounds alone means it wasn't the 'Lucario' of Gen 8.
 

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He's leagues better than Tatsu though. The joke was only funny when Lin actually got him into the pot. Other than that he's just Riki, but without actually doing anything useful, causing his "I'm the big hero and you're the sidekicks!" attitude to be annoying instead of endearing.

EDIT: Unlike most of the cast, he's even one note in his side quests. So there's nothing you're really missing from him if you just play the main story.


Would Nia be able to heal Poppi though? She's not alive from a scientific standpoint.
I mean, Nia would have been able to save Vandham, but due to I guess the mercenaries' code of honor, he wanted to die an honorable death and she respected his wishes

i saw it like that at least
 

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Nintendo Direct in January revealing MCC on Switch and Chief as Fighter #5.
 
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I know nothing about Nier, but it seems like a really dope game and I want to try it (as with many other Square Enix titles).

I suppose it is an action game as many Platinum projects do tend to be like that.
 

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What does this have to do with Chief and That collection?
The user who posted it is a pretty prominent leaker, who also goes by the name of King Zell. He accurately named a bunch of games that would be announced in a Nintendo Direct, including the Link's Awakening remake and Mario Maker 2. (though I'm not sure if he specifically said that it would be a Link's Awakening remake, or a 2D Zelda game in general - still looking up sources on those)

He previously said that he'd heard about something that was described as being like "if Mario was on Playstation", and recently made a post claiming that he "just dropped by to say halo to everyone." More information can be found here.

People are thinking that he's hinting at the Master Chief Collection coming to Switch, which he followed up on with further posts. I'm not sure how reliable he is (given its popularity on the Wii U, a Mario Maker 2 on the Switch seems like a no-brainer), but that's why people are speculating about it. The presence of Microsoft-funded (and previously exclusive to Microsoft consoles) games like Ori and the Blind Forest, and Cuphead, make it seem like a real possibility.

It doesn't necessarily mean Master Chief in Smash is going to happen (as many have pointed out, if getting a game on the Switch meant that a character was definitely going to be in Smash, then characters like Tracer, Ori, and the Troll from Troll and I would all be in Smash Bros.), but people like to speculate.
 
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Master Chief in Smash or not, I honestly care and have more interest on the rumours of Halo games coming to Switch.

I always wanted to get into Halo but couldn’t due to a lack of any Xbox device. If the series came to Switch, I would totally pick the Switch ports on Day 1.
 

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I know nothing about Nier, but it seems like a really dope game and I want to try it (as with many other Square Enix titles).

I suppose it is an action game as many Platinum projects do tend to be like that.
I envy your naivety because I would like to experience that s*** for the first time.

Anything new, bois?
No but I will be the first to point out that you're the Gordon Freeman supporter who kind of f***ing looks like Gordon Freeman.
 
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The user who posted it is a pretty prominent leaker, who also goes by the name of King Zell. He accurately named a bunch of games that would be announced in a Nintendo Direct, including the Link's Awakening remake and Mario Maker 2. (though I'm not sure if he specifically said that it would be a Link's Awakening remake, or a 2D Zelda game in general - still looking up sources on those)

He previously said that he'd heard about something that was described as being like "if Mario was on Playstation", and recently made a post claiming that he "just dropped by to say halo to everyone." More information can be found here.

People are thinking that he's hinting at the Master Chief Collection coming to Switch, which he followed up on with further posts. I'm not sure how reliable he is (given its popularity on the Wii U, a Mario Maker 2 on the Switch seems like a no-brainer), but that's why people are speculating about it. The presence of Microsoft-funded (and previously exclusive to Microsoft consoles) games like Ori and the Blind Forest, and Cuphead, make it seem like a real possibility.

It doesn't necessarily mean Master Chief in Smash is going to happen (as many have pointed out, if getting a game on the Switch meant that a character was definitely going to be in Smash, then characters like Tracer, Ori, and the Troll from Troll and I would all be in Smash Bros.), but people like to speculate.
I'm pretty sure Vergeben corroborated the Master Chief Collection on Switch.

My gut still says KOS-MOS simply because it's the only character Sabi and Vergeben refused to deconfirm.
But Master Chief would be killer.
Honestly, though, I feel like Chief should be the absolutely last character revealed of ALL DLC.

But imagine this:
Chief IS FP5, and that's the reason why Microsoft Mii costumes didn't come with Banjo. It would look too suspicious that Master Chief was absent from the Mii Roster.
And when Chief comes, Steve gets a Sans-quality Mii Costume, and Vergeben was right all along about Minecraft content in Smash.
 

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I will say, as much as I know Sakurai focuses on more Japanese centric options for Smash and as much as I know that Halo/Xbox aren't super popular in Japan, it would be a real shame to miss the opportunity to put Master Chief in Smash if Halo is indeed coming to Switch.
 

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What franchises that are currently in Smash would you like to see get more characters?

I'm gonna ignore the obvious choices (Zelda, Kirby, etc.) and say that I'd really like to see Splatoon and Sonic get more characters. Splatoon because it's been insanely successful, and it's really unique from other Nintendo franchises. Sonic because I feel like it's the second most iconic third-party franchise (only behind Pac-Man) on the roster. Plus, it has several decent options to choose from (Tails, Knuckles, Shadow, Eggman).
 
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What franchises that are currently in Smash would you like to see get more characters?

I'm gonna ignore the obvious choices (Zelda, Kirby, etc.) and say that I'd really like to see Splatoon and Sonic get more characters. Splatoon because it's been insanely successful, and it's really unique from other Nintendo franchises. Sonic because I feel like it's the second most iconic third-party franchise (only behind Pac-Man) on the roster. Plus, it has several decent options to choose from (Tails, Knuckles, Shadow, Eggman).


Don't leave Yoshi behind in the OG 8 :yoshi:
 
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