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Official Newcomer/DLC Speculation Discussion

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Cutie Gwen

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"B-b-b-b-ut Gwen! Nintendo isn't a big corporation that wants my money! They're my FRIEND! They would NEVER use shady and underhanded business practices! We have something special because Nintendo can do no wrong!"


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How many Nintendo Stans does it take to fix a lightbulb? 101! 1 to actually fix it while the other 100 marvel about how much better Nintendo was fixing than anyone else!


For real as a collector, Nintendo can **** off as they actively won't let me give them my money forcing me to spend more money on secondhands from scalpers WHICH MAKES NO GODDAMN SENSE YOU GAIN LITERSLLY NOTHING BY DOING THIS NINTENDO WHY THE **** DO I NEED TO SPEND LIKE 500 EUROS ON PATH OF RADIANCE AND MARIO SUNSHINE
 

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Oh dear...

I know right? I was 15 (E3 2006) to 17 (Brawl's release) - It could be really difficult to sift through the community's reactions to the Dojo posts when people really wanted character upon character. While also having the massive Subspace adventure, etc.

Part of the reason might be that the E3 trailer blew everyones' minds.



And that's not getting into stuff like Nintendo's harsh exclusivity contracts with third parties during the NES / SNES days, the behind-the-back dealings with Phillips while Sony wasn't even aware etc.

Oh and both those things directly contributed to the PlayStation family becoming Nintendo's fiercest rivals (the latter outright lead to the PS1 becoming a bonafide console, the former lead companies like Square to jump ship to the PS1). Whoops.
There is also the nonsense of the development for Star Fox 2. They took the employees of another company. However, Nintendo puts on a different face for customers and is ruthless against other companies.
 

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It's safe to say Nintendo doesn't do the same BS as other companies like murdering franchies and reanimating them as mobile games.

They make their own BS like murdering series to show off hardware gimmicks.
 

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****ing finally, someone tries to point this out.

In my counter argument, they treat mobile differently from Switch games. I don’t recall any Nintendo switch titles that have pulled some stupid BS. It’s quite the opposite, like the dlc for Breath of the Wild, Splatoon 2, and Xenoblade 2.
Ok but the 3ds and Switch both have scummy f2p games. Remember Rusty? Remember when Nintendo tried advertising this?


This is something an old Fallout game or Cyberpunk would make up as parody and NINTENDO of all people made it reality
 

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Ok but the 3ds and Switch both have scummy f2p games. Remember Rusty? Remember when Nintendo tried advertising this?


This is something an old Fallout game or Cyberpunk would make up as parody and NINTENDO of all people made it reality
I have seen it. I think it’s really cute.
 

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Getting really annoyed at people trying to say that if KOS-MOS were in she wouldn't represent Xenosaga or that she absolutely has to represent ****ing Xenoblade 2 for some reason or that she has to use her RE design or-

Xenosaga is a good series. You can play the first one super easily since it sold well and is in most used game stores nowadays, or you can buy it cheap on Amazon. Give it a shot.
 

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Getting really annoyed at people trying to say that if KOS-MOS were in she wouldn't represent Xenosaga or that she absolutely has to represent ****ing Xenoblade 2 for some reason or that she has to use her RE design or-

Xenosaga is a good series. You can play the first one super easily since it sold well and is in most used game stores nowadays, or you can buy it cheap on Amazon. Give it a shot.
Ok but Xenoblade is the only Xeno franchise as it's the only one owned by Nintendo so those games don't exist
I have seen it. I think it’s really cute.
Hahaha holy **** you sound like you'd be thrilled at the thought of paying money to hold your newborn child
 

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Getting really annoyed at people trying to say that if KOS-MOS were in she wouldn't represent Xenosaga or that she absolutely has to represent ****ing Xenoblade 2 for some reason or that she has to use her RE design or-

Xenosaga is a good series. You can play the first one super easily since it sold well and is in most used game stores nowadays, or you can buy it cheap on Amazon. Give it a shot.
She’ll be pleasing for xenoblade 2 guys, but why does anyone consider her to represent xenoblade 2?
 

BlackInk

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Ok but Xenoblade is the only Xeno franchise as it's the only one owned by Nintendo so those games don't exist

Hahaha holy **** you sound like you'd be thrilled at the thought of paying money to hold your newborn child
Rusty is a game about purchasable mini games.
 
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Getting really annoyed at people trying to say that if KOS-MOS were in she wouldn't represent Xenosaga or that she absolutely has to represent ****ing Xenoblade 2 for some reason or that she has to use her RE design or-

Xenosaga is a good series. You can play the first one super easily since it sold well and is in most used game stores nowadays, or you can buy it cheap on Amazon. Give it a shot.
I just hope sometime in the near future they port Xenosaga on modern systems for the sake of videogame preservation.
 

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Why are you so butt hurt about Rusty of all things? A 25$ pay wall for a mii costume is instantly much worse.
A bonus mii costume is hardly worse than a character who can only deal damage when you pay them real money. Just pop in 5 bucks and even your jab will kill, he'll make even Hero blush at all the bull****. Leffen however's fine with him
 

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A bonus mii costume is hardly worse than a character who can only deal damage when you pay them real money. Just pop in 5 bucks and even your jab will kill, he'll make even Hero blush at all the bull****. Leffen however's fine with him
Have you gone insane over Rusty?
 

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I just hope sometime in the near future they port Xenosaga on modern systems for the sake of videogame preservation.
You and me both. I've brought it up before, but we've tried so hard and Harada absolutely wants to do it but it's a money thing. After the first game the series slowed down to the point that they had to keep it a trilogy instead of expanding it, and so it's not seen as worth making the HD ports just in case it flops.

And now Monolith Soft has decided that "make Xenoblade 1 look like the bad Xenoblade game" is the way to go for some reason so RIP
 
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*looks at all the bull**** they pulled with f2p games like the Pokemon candy crush games, MKTour, artificial scarcity with literally every collector's item they made, the dripfeed of VC including taking 5 years for the Wii U VC to get N64 games while the Wii had them, etc*


Are you sure about that?
Mario Kart Tour is legit the worst game of the year for me.

It was the only game that achieved the only thing needed to make me hate a game: be unfun and frustrating all together.

The worst part was surely dealing with people around Discord who literally chased me for disliking the game and daring to complain about it.
 
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Have you gone insane over Rusty?
Eh...I dunno. Just let her be.

Mario Kart Tour is legit the worst game of the year for me.

It was the only game that achieved the only thing needed to make me hate a game: be unfun and frustrating all together.

The worst part was surely dealing with people around Discord who literally chased me for disliking the game and daring to complain about it.
Thank God all my memory is dedicated to Mobile Legends, Fire Emblem HEroes, tons of K-Pop jams, and tons of pictures of hot Korean men and women. To be honest, MKT didn't really appeal to me that much. Only reason I kept the two games above was that I played them for nearly 2 years already.
 

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Have you gone insane over Rusty?
He'll break the meta I tell you! He even has RNG to make it look like you're winning so you can get 5 cents off on your next purchase! But I'll stop him, I don't condone vore so I shall instead piss on the wealthy!
You and me both. I've brought it up before, but we've tried so hard and Harada absolutely wants to do it but it's a money thing. After the first game the series slowed down to the point that they had to keep it a trilogy instead of expanding it, and so it's not seen as worth making the HD ports just in case it flops.

And now Monolith Soft has decided that "make Xenoblade 1 look like the bad Xenoblade game" is the way to go for some reason so RIP
tbf the artstyle on official artwork is DRASTICALLY different when comparing 1D and 2
 
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Eh...I dunno. Just let her be.



Thank God all my memory is dedicated to Mobile Legends, Fire Emblem HEroes, tons of K-Pop jams, and tons of pictures of hot Korean men and women. To be honest, MKT didn't really appeal to me that much. Only reason I kept the two games above was that I played them for nearly 2 years already.
The mobile games I like the most are Fire Emblem Heroes, Super Mario Run, Marvel Future Fight, the Taxman Sonic 1/2 ports, the mobile Pac-Man port and Sonic Dash.

Those games do at least feel fun for me.
 

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Getting really annoyed at people trying to say that if KOS-MOS were in she wouldn't represent Xenosaga or that she absolutely has to represent ****ing Xenoblade 2 for some reason or that she has to use her RE design or-

Xenosaga is a good series. You can play the first one super easily since it sold well and is in most used game stores nowadays, or you can buy it cheap on Amazon. Give it a shot.
Personally I just find her XB2 design easier to make work in an E+10 setting. That and it's legit bad ass looking.

It would also explain all the crazy legal confusion over her trademark if Verg has any shred of cred left.
 

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I still don't expect KOS-MOS, but it's going to be funny if she ends up getting revealed, considering how much we talked about her without any concrete leaks.

Have you gone insane over Rusty?
Nah, she's insane in general. You'll get used to it.
 
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Personally I just find her XB2 design easier to make work in an E+10 setting. That and it's legit bad ass looking.

It would also explain all the crazy legal confusion over her trademark if Verg has any shred of cred left.
I mostly like it enough. The Zohar guns annoy me though. It strips them of their original story meaning.

I would hope if she were in she'd have RE: as well as at least one of her original designs, probably Episode I. I was mostly annoyed at scrolling through and seeing people try to claim that Xenosaga wasn't good and that she absolutely HAS to represent all her crossovers instead of her original series when in fact it is very, very good.
 

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And now Monolith Soft has decided that "make Xenoblade 1 look like the bad Xenoblade game" is the way to go for some reason so RIP
Xenoblade 2 is literally their most successful title lol
 

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It's safe to say Nintendo doesn't do the same BS as other companies like murdering franchies and reanimating them as mobile games.

They make their own BS like murdering series to show off hardware gimmicks.
I think I heard about this being the unintentional results of Miyamoto's thinking.

Oh, yes. An Iwata Asks interview.


(Video starts at relevant section when clicked, and the video has the source.)

"One theme of the Nintendo 3DS system was gameplay involving depth." Miyamoto told Iwata, and he later added:
"you can clearly see the depth involved, so I thought it'd be more fun shooting it with a laser."

When the video's creator explains that that's Miyamoto's creative strength and weakness and I fully agree with him:

On one hand, Miyamoto's the one who created and spearheaded* Mario and Zelda for decades, pushed technical limits with Star Fox and F-Zero, and took an interesting spin on an already successful genre with Pikmin.
On the other, he doesn't really stop to consider when an idea can be outright skipped. People turning off the 3D in the 3DS, or people avoiding battles entirely in Sticker Star.

The thing is - while he's not alone (Yokoi and Iwata were similar in their thinking, as are many others within Nintendo. Even younger ones like Sakurai and Mario's current director Motokuba). Miyamoto has a justified position and influence within the company. Why deviate from something so successful?

That question is the start of organizational culture, sometimes helpful, sometimes a massive drug.

*(I'm using spearheaded since there are loads of people at work with each game, especially nowadays)
 
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Personally I just find her XB2 design easier to make work in an E+10 setting. That and it's legit bad ass looking.

It would also explain all the crazy legal confusion over her trademark if Verg has any shred of cred left.
The thing that kinda bugs me a teeny-weeny bit is that if she uses her XC2 design, it would be more associated with Xeno2 rather than the entirety of Xenosaga, her home franchise. And Sakurai does love to do his best when representing the source material. On the other hand, yeah...that's the more logical route they would take. Good for CERO, good for the kids, etc.,

Also it may hamper down her moveset because she has TONS of moveset potential with so many weapons-

Bayonetta has tons of weapons yet is limited to her guns. Kind of what I'll see KOS-MOS portrayed as.

Oh well, anything to put her in, I guess.

IT's just that Verge isn't a trustable source at THIS time. After all this craziness, he may try to regain hsi reputation by doing his job more effectively.
 
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Well I'm going to bed.

Like usual, something crazy will happen which makes everything turn on its head again.
Waking up tomorrow is a sign of hope. If I did not have hope, I would just stay in bed the entire day.
 
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