Newbie 15 - Betty Crocker Mafia - Game Over!

[Sokr]

Well bummer. Good luck town!

 

[Terywj [태리]]

Awesome. We lost another townie, both IC slots are still alive, and we're in a prickly spot as far as players and voting goes.

Hey Sold2, let's hear who you checked last night, hmm?

Let's be a little more careful with our votes, okay? I'll be checking in at various times, but let's not get ahead of ourselves. I agree I'd just like to end this game ASAP, but we can do that and still win.

 

[Terywj [태리]]

Man, are we quiet or what.

 

[o-Serin-o]

I'll say.

Im up at 1:30 out on a school night finishing a school project with my stoner friend because it was only two of us in my group compared to the 5 of all the other groups.

**** my life.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

I'd like to hear stu's opinion because he's our clear.

Serin, do you earnestly think it's ever a good idea to quicklynch somebody when we know for a fact that time is not an issue? That just reeks of playing the "say something too dumb to be scummy" card. You don't even tell us why you're thinking Tery is a better lynch than AA but still think going for the quicklynch is a good idea? I don't buy it. Tell us a little more.

 

[Terywj [태리]]

Where has Serin stated that he thinks I'm a better lynch over Asianaussie?

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Sorry, I confused the names in my previous post. It was kind of a freudian slip because I'm personally leaning more towards lynching Tery than AA atm.

 

[Terywj [태리]]

My point still stands, Serin never had any other picks to my knowledge aside from Marathonman and Sokr. Both of which are dead. I'm aware you're suspicious of me, but what were you trying to get at?

 

[~ Gheb ~]

... "get at"? Care to be a bit more concrete?

 

[Terywj [태리]]

You say, "it was slight Freudian slip" and that "you mixed the names up". The Freudian slip part makes perfect sense, given your stances all game. But in order to have legitimately mixed up the names (and subsequently the slip) you had to have another name in my slot in your post. "You don't even tell us why you're thinking ____ is a better lynch than Asianaussie..." I'm saying I can't see who you messed this up with, since Serin's top picks--Marathonman and Sokr, are both gone.

 

[asianaussie]

or he could just mean serin thinks i'm a better lynch than you are, which he does

at one point serin had a aa + sokr scumteam post, but that was lost amidst the confusion

and where is sold, even if he didn't get a track his input would be nice about now

 

[Terywj [태리]]

Sold's been online, too. He's viewed the signups and UTrick'd.

 

[Terywj [태리]]

Sold2 makes me upset.

 

[asianaussie]

why are you so anxious anyway, we have plenty of time

 

[Terywj [태리]]

Because (a) if Sold went big and pinned we win, (b) even if he didn't get anything good, we have a clear, (c) we could always use the input, and (q) I'm an impatient mother****er who wants this game to end already.

 

[o-Serin-o]

I'd like to hear stu's opinion because he's our clear.

Serin, do you earnestly think it's ever a good idea to quicklynch somebody when we know for a fact that time is not an issue? That just reeks of playing the "say something too dumb to be scummy" card. You don't even tell us why you're thinking Tery is a better lynch than AA but still think going for the quicklynch is a good idea? I don't buy it. Tell us a little more.

In the morning.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

You say, "it was slight Freudian slip" and that "you mixed the names up". The Freudian slip part makes perfect sense, given your stances all game. But in order to have legitimately mixed up the names (and subsequently the slip) you had to have another name in my slot in your post.

OK, let's clear this up. When I say I "confused" the names in my post I was referring to the order. Look:

You don't even tell us why you're thinking Tery is a better lynch than AA [...]

It's not that I randomly confused the names of people, I simply confused the order in which I wanted to name them [it's supposed to be "[...] why you're thinking AA is a better lynch than Tery"]. Because I personally am under the impression that Tery is a bigger suspect than AA I accidentally switched the order in which I wanted to name them and as a result I mentioned Tery in AA's place and vice versa. I hope that's cleared up now?

 

[o-Serin-o]

I had a passage typed on my phone. Then it froze.

**** smartphones sometimes.

 

[Terywj [태리]]

@Mod: Request prod (up the butt!) for Sold2.

@Gheb: Yeah, that makes sense now. Thanks for explaining. XD

 

[DtJ S2n]

Hey Sold2, let's hear who you checked last night, hmm?

Doesn't even matter. I literally sent in No action last night. The final scum is the Tracker-immune mafia. As a tracker, I have no business tracking when there is nothing to track.

and where is sold, even if he didn't get a track his input would be nice about now

I honestly presumed myself dead. I didn't even check the thread . As WIFOMy as it is and as much as I hate saying things like this, I kinda want to clear Gheb for this lmao. If he was mafia he would know better than to leave me alive as a cleared IC. I'll still do a reread on this subject but ugh.

Logically, he should be the only one we vote for toDay. I say quick lynch and get through this day. AA is the only that hasn't looked like he has made an honest scumhunting attempt this game.

"Quick lynch at endgame" is one of the worst ideas I've heard in a long time. Also, could you elaborate on the AA is the only logical choice idea? Serin is starting to worry me.

Also I'll pull some mad weight or something I swear I guess :flex:

 

[asianaussie]

i saw gheb attempt to correct his declaration you were the only logical lynch choice - dunno if he was trying to save you or actually reading this far ahead, but that made me think he was town

wifom everywhere though

 

[Terywj [태리]]

Wait, what Sold said makes sense. If Sold and Gheb are both town, and I think Serin and Asianaussie are both town...that means I'm scum?

I guess I'll reread Serin and basically everyone I guess.

 

[DtJ S2n]

Wait, what Sold said makes sense. If Sold and Gheb are both town, and I think Serin and Asianaussie are both town...that means I'm scum?

Got'em. Oh, but I suppose you were thinking Gheb was scum before this post? I haven't quite read and actually I've kinda forgotten most errything about this game.

 

[Terywj [태리]]

I feel as if if you're the Tracker, then there's a very high possibility via process of elimination in my mind that Gheb could be the final scum. As I've stated, John played near-perfectly as a townie on Day 1, and his death and subsequent flip led me to my first suspicions on the inexperience challenge slots. Now that you're our clear, Gheb's definitely under the light. Call it poor reasoning if you want, but I just don't see anything like that coming from the other remaining players.

Gheb pair with Marathonman would also make sense, seeing as connections were minimal (I think). Like you, I have kinda forgot stuff.

 

[o-Serin-o]

Okay, you guys were right about my quick lynch idea.

Scratch it.

I guess this means I'll have to do some reading ._.

 

[Terywj [태리]]

I completely forgot to tack on how my previous post contradicts with the kill choice of the previous night. As Sold stated, we expected him gone, and since Gheb is such a strong player, it's kinda surprising and clashes with what I said before.

Meh.

 

[Terywj [태리]]

So what happens now.

 

[o-Serin-o]

We procrastinate and wait til deadline to start investigating, obv.

 

[Terywj [태리]]

That's a dumb idea and I hate it.

If I was scum I would just vote myself to end this game.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

I don't know why this game is coming to a halt now considering we're in a solid position. Stu's lack of input is really annoying but I also feel that Serin is trying to stall now.

Vote Serin

AA, can you summarize your suspicions?

 

[Terywj [태리]]

I can't really see any particular reason for it. Serin went from "Yeah let's just quick lynch." to "Yeah let's not do anything." But then again everyone said the latter.

Request votecount

 

[DtJ S2n]

I FORGOT I WAS ALIVE AGAIN

Entirely mad

 

[asianaussie]

suspicions i have are mainly from process of elimination, so tery is who im looking at (tired as hell from 14 hour planetrip atm so cbf listing points), i agree with sold's case against him and think marathon's vote on him was a bit curious

one suspicion is gheb: while it would be dumb to leave a strong player like sold in, gheb would know that sold's power role is now completely useless: the only player going anywhere would be the one immune to track anyway, so sold can't even clear others - the thing is, leaving sold alive pseudo-indicates the last scum to be a newbie (for not killing a strong player), effectively vindicating him if the town assumes this

just throwing this out there, gheb could still be scum (but i sorta doubt it)

 

[Terywj [태리]]

Asianaussie, you speculate and address solid facts on the kill choice (or lack of) on Sold, which pseudo-clears Gheb. But what about the first kill--John? Only someone like Sold or Gheb could've been able to pick off John, IMO.

 

[asianaussie]

im saying that gheb might've done that on purpose in order to pseudo-clear himself, and im only saying it as a possibility

that wouldn't be above him

also why would it take an IC to have picked off john?

 

[Terywj [태리]]

<<Insert quote about how John played under the radar, etc. etc. here>>

 

[~ Gheb ~]

You act as if I'm the only experienced player left. AA and Tery, you've both had your fair share of mafia games - you'd understand that Sold is essentially VT now so I don't see how you expect to learn anything from the fact that Sold is still alive. If it were only to cause WIFOM-speculation then all of us except Serin are potential contenders for such a move. I don't think your logic holds a lot of water anyway. Too much speculation involved - we go with what we can know.

 

[Terywj [태리]]

To be fair, I'd be too paranoid about leaving either of you two slots alive if I was Mafia, lol. I don't think I've played enough with anyone on the list who could see that, but whatever.

 

[o-Serin-o]

I'm still learning, so hey.

No excuses though.

 

[asianaussie]

you two have the IC label and have the more authoritative posts this game, putting myself or Tery near your level would be doing yourself a disservice lol

and i've been stressing that it's only speculation and that people should not have you cleared just on the basis of sold not being dead