Newbie 13: Organization XIII Mafia ~Town Wins!~

[SangfroidWarrior]

Seikend, no offense, but this was way easier when you weren't here. I'm glad to have you, but we weren't scrambling for a lynch,

 

[Seikend]

I've been pretty consistently saying that I don't like SW, Panta, and Kuz. In that order. I don't see why you can't remember any of my other stances.

I did just read through 20 pages in a couple of hours. I'm not going to remember anything. My bad with regards to Kuz though, should have remembered that one.

I believe that I had actually already said that I didn't like Kuz too much, but feel free to prove me wrong. I didn't like how he kept asking a bunch of questions, and he was playing similar to scum from another game.

You misunderstand me. When you were at L-1 and Kuz had the hammer vote, you continued to push Kuzscum. Kuz took this as a towntell because he felt scum would try to reason with him. I was explaining to Kuz why I feel that towntell is flawed. My point is that as scum you would consistently stay on Kuz as well, as switching would look fake. Therefore Kuz's towntell is null.

What? How can you not understand that I didn't like the fact that the mod replaced someone at L-1 only a few hours from the deadline? It just throws the whole game out of wack, imo, and makes us scramble to do anything.

I dunno, to me having someone replace in at this point is at least better than lynching someone who had literally done nothing at all. With the latter you're just hoping for a lucky shot. At least I'm generating some content and doing some work.

I don't have a problem with your slot's inactivity NOW, hence I'm not voting for you. I just don't like how the mods are doing this game, especially without the extension.

Fair enough.

 

[Lore]

I don't think it'd be good for us to have a no-lynch, because then we're down 1 town because of the mafia during the night, and then all we have is who is actually town. Do we get a flip when the mafia kills someone? And, yeah. Thanks. Fail on my part.

We get a flip. I was just saying that a NL is likely, not that I want it. Really though, it could be worse... Like we COULD have someone replace in at L-1 in the last few hours of the Day without an extension. >_>

Seikend, no offense, but this was way easier when you weren't here. I'm glad to have you, but we weren't scrambling for a lynch,

Agreed, but I might as well stop *****ing about it.

@Mods: How many games have you hosted?

 

[#HBC | Acrostic]

I'll be around here for the next five hours or so. However I would prefer today's lynch to be on Seikend|BPC. BPC has been pretty adamant about staying on the pheonix561|Seikend slot despite the replacement. I find it ironic that BPC hasn't been terribly active himself, yet is more than eager to go through an inactive policy lynch.

 

[Lore]

I did just read through 20 pages in a couple of hours. I'm not going to remember anything. My bad with regards to Kuz though, should have remembered that one.

Fair enough. I was just pointing it out.

You misunderstand me. When you were at L-1 and Kuz had the hammer vote, you continued to push Kuzscum. Kuz took this as a towntell because he felt scum would try to reason with him. I was explaining to Kuz why I feel that towntell is flawed. My point is that as scum you would consistently stay on Kuz as well, as switching would look fake. Therefore Kuz's towntell is null.

Ah, I see what you're saying now. You're right, I suppose.

I dunno, to me having someone replace in at this point is at least better than lynching someone who had literally done nothing at all. With the latter you're just hoping for a lucky shot. At least I'm generating some content and doing some work.

Well, the problem is that now we have a distinct possibility of a NL. But, like I said, I need to stop *****ing.

 

[#HBC | Acrostic]

Seikend what are your thoughts on Werekill choosing to vote SangfroidWarrior, instead of sticking on your bandwagon? Is there an alternative lynch you wouldn't mind picking aside from Werekill? This question also extends to SangfroidWarrior and whoever else is on at the moment.

 

[#HBC | Acrostic]

Werekill, how do you feel about me refusing to lynch either you or SangfroidWarrior? Have you really gotten town vibes from Seikend's initial posts or is it just that SangfroidWarrior is obv scum fypov?

 

[Lore]

Werekill, how do you feel about me refusing to lynch either you or SangfroidWarrior? Have you really gotten town vibes from Seikend's initial posts or is it just that SangfroidWarrior is obv scum fypov?

I think that you have a town read on us both, and I have nothing to add.

And no, I haven't. I just see no need to lynch him when we were only lynching that slot for inactivity. If he's our only choice, though, I guess I'll go for him.

And it's not that SW is obvscum; she's just pretty scummy in my eyes and could give us valuable info.

 

[Seikend]

Seikend what are your thoughts on Werekill choosing to vote SangfroidWarrior, instead of sticking on your bandwagon? Is there an alternative lynch you wouldn't mind picking aside from Werekill? This question also extends to SangfroidWarrior and whoever else is on at the moment.

Unvoting me makes perfect sense. His only issue with my slot was activity, which is now fixed.

Still don't get the SW hate at all but eh. Honestly it makes sense too to me. Nothing sticks out as unusual in his actions.


My lynch choices are at the bottom of my #789, which also has a question I'd like you to answer (the first question).

Why is BPC scummy? Kuz also mentioned it but besides his vote on my slot for inactivity, nothing else stands out to me.

I mean I'm open to other lynch possibilities, but considering that I really won't be on much longer I can't be flexible with my vote. Wherever it is in the next half hour is where it'll be sticking to deadline. Unless someone convinces me otherwise it'll be sticking on WK.

 

[#HBC | Acrostic]

Here is my answer. I think Werekill is town for going through with his early scum read. He followed through with his logic after your activity began to pike when you replaced in for pheonix's slot. As we were going to lynch your slot on the basis of inactivity, I feel okay with eliminating a null read today as an alternative lynch which today would be BPC|Zen|gargaglione. I don't see either Werekill or SangfroidWarrior as scum. Therefore I hate both alternative wagons and am staying on this one by proxy. I will swap to another person who reads null to me for today, however I will not join a wagon on two people who read town to me.

 

[Lore]

I'd say it's down to Zen and BPC. They both flip-flopped and seemed to generally want to please everyone, imo, by joining popular wagons (bpc on that second bit more than Zen).

 

[#HBC | Acrostic]

Unvoting me makes perfect sense. His only issue with my slot was activity, which is now fixed.

I was expecting an answer along the terms of a town/scum tell.

Still don't get the SW hate at all but eh. Honestly it makes sense too to me. Nothing sticks out as unusual in his actions.

So your impression is that SW is town. Y/N?

My lynch choices are at the bottom of my #789, which also has a question I'd like you to answer (the first question).

Okay~ I still need to do a re-read which I will do after this post.

Why is BPC scummy? Kuz also mentioned it but besides his vote on my slot for inactivity, nothing else stands out to me.

BPC doesn't read as scum. He reads as null to me. After Werekill was put at L-1, he has kind of phased out of the game and hasn't pushed on anyone else. His recent posts come off as being null in my opinion. If you re-read my #766 those are my reads for D1.

I mean I'm open to other lynch possibilities, but considering that I really won't be on much longer I can't be flexible with my vote. Wherever it is in the next half hour is where it'll be sticking to deadline. Unless someone convinces me otherwise it'll be sticking on WK.

I don't want a Werekill lynch for today. Look at this from my point of view. At the moment Sangfroid|Werekill read as town. You sit at null. At this point I'm not going to be convinced of either a Werekill|Sangfroid lynch after panning through this thread for the past two days. For someone who just joined in a couple of hours ago, you're not really in the right position to demand that anyone else compromises their reads for today.

 

[#HBC | Acrostic]

@mod: request vote count

 

[Gargaglione]

Sup guys. Unvote

Yea, Seikend doesn't deserve to be lynched. Since, I've been inactive for a while, I'm gonna have to go back, read a bit, and maybe make a new decision.

 

[Gova]

1.) Acrostic ()
2.) SangfroidWarrior (1) Werekill
3.) Panta ()
4.) Seikend (3) Gargaglione, BPC, Acrostic
5.) gargaglione ()
6.) Budget Player Cadet_ (1) Panta
7.) Werekill (3) SW, Zen, Seikend
8.) Zen ()
9.) th3kuzinator ()
Not voting - Kuz

With 9 playing, it takes 5 to lynch!

Deadline is July 25th at 11:59 PM EST (GMT-5).

 

[Seikend]

I was expecting an answer along the terms of a town/scum tell.

It's null.

So your impression is that SW is town. Y/N?

yes

I don't want a Werekill lynch for today. Look at this from my point of view. At the moment Sangfroid|Werekill read as town. You sit at null. At this point I'm not going to be convinced of either a Werekill|Sangfroid lynch after panning through this thread for the past two days. For someone who just joined in a couple of hours ago, you're not really in the right position to demand that anyone else compromises their reads for today.

Ughh. Don't like the idea that because I just joined my reads are worth less, buuut, I do see that considering I can't be flexible with my vote, I probably should compromise. Let me think about it for a bit and see where I think I'll place my vote.

I would like the WK lynch but considering his wagon has come and gone without a lynch it might not happen. Off in a few minutes, but will have decided on my final vote for the Day before I go.

 

[SangfroidWarrior]

I'd say it's down to Zen and BPC. They both flip-flopped and seemed to generally want to please everyone, imo, by joining popular wagons (bpc on that second bit more than Zen).

I think Garg did this more-so than anybody else. He voted for me, then voted for Panta later on. After that, he forgot about his vote on Panta saying that he was going to stick with his vote on me. Then he's like "Oh, yeah, I'll stick with Panta." After that, he jumped on your (I almost used you're again -_-) after Kuzi and I put up some suspicion. After that, he follows Zen on the vote for Pheonix. My bet is, if he were actually present recently, he would have changed his vote back and forth at least 3-4 times by now.

 

[SangfroidWarrior]

@Garg. Try catching up pretty quickly, please. 4 hours, and we still have a lot of things to work out. With both Panta and Kuzi gone for the night, and no Cadet or Zen to speak of, it's just the 5 of us.

 

[Lore]

Seikend, I say pick Zen or BPC. Or heck, even Kuz.

If you pick one of those, we can actually get a lynch. If you pick one of us 5, we likely won't.

 

[Gargaglione]

Vote: Panta
Yea, I made a decision. I see Panta as the scummiest of everybody. I don't really like anything he's done, mainly whole pity thing. You're probably asking yourself right now "If you thought this the whole time why haven't you stood by his vote?". Well, I DID think Werekill was scummy as well at the moment for attacking SW so much, then I ALSO thought Pheonix was suspicious for his inactivity (now, looking back, I see that was pretty stupid). So, I changed my vote to them at the moment, because I thought it'd be more productive than having just one singular vote on somebody no one was going to vote with me on. I don't really get any 'scum vibes' from any of these current reads.

 

[Lore]

Oh, yay, someone I can actually get behind!

Any thoughts, anyone?

Also, @mod: incorrect vote count. I still have a vote on SW.

 

[SangfroidWarrior]

I don't know if I could get behind a Panta lynch. He has been misreading a lot of crap, like him saying early on that me asking Kuzi why I shouldn't think Kuzi is scum was putting off all of the scumhunting on Kuzi. Plus, his #361 post against Cadet which seemed to be really stretching and overanalyzing, like he was just searching for something to do. Plus, although he went back and defended himself, for a while it looked like he was just going to be willing to throw in the towell for no real reason but for 3 people questioning him. I do think he is scummy, but, if Pheonix had indeed flipped scum, I would have looked at him harder D2 as a scum-buddy. In fact, I think I would have looked harder at him D2 regardless. But, imo, I don't think we have enough from him. The fact that he's V/LA in the first place makes me wary to vote for him. What if he's a PR? He can't claim, and has no real need to up until maybe now.

 

[SangfroidWarrior]

But, his post #405 makes me think he's more town than anything else. I'm going to have to go back and re-read it, but that puts him on my null list.

 

[Seikend]

Don't think a WK lynch will happen toDay.

Unvote
Vote: Panta

Good Luck.

 

[SangfroidWarrior]

We still have a few hours, and it's only two people voting for Panta that had been changing votes at the drop of a hat all day.

 

[SangfroidWarrior]

It could have happened with you with us, but I guess you'll see what happens tomorrow.

 

[Seikend]

We still have a few hours, and it's only two people voting for Panta that had been changing votes at the drop of a hat all day.

I mentioned Panta as a scumpick back in my #789. I didn't just vote out of the blue. With no WK lynch, Panta is the next most likely and favourable in my eyes.

 

[SangfroidWarrior]

Alrighty then. As long as you're sure. Thanks for clearing that up.

 

[th3kuzinator]

vote: werekill

haha seikend is a bunny

 

[#HBC | J]

Game has 3 hours and 44 minutes to reach a lynch as of this post.

 

[SangfroidWarrior]

That puts werekill back at L-1. Anyone want to vote for him? Seikend, if you're still there I hope you're still awake. Otherwise, it's going to be stuck like this.

 

[SangfroidWarrior]

Acro, I know you don't want to lynch Werekill, but who would you be willing to lynch, especially since we're so close to deadline.

 

[Gargaglione]

@SW
I didn't vote on Panta for no reason. If you don't see what I'm talking about, just go back and read on Panta's whole pity scene. I mean, really, what the hell was that? It's not about hurting his feelings or anything, but seriously, I don't see any reasoning behind that. It was the stupidest thing I've seen in this whole game. I'm not buying it.

 

[#HBC | Acrostic]

This lynch really blows.

 

[SangfroidWarrior]

@Garg. I'm not talking about just now. I meant earlier on.

@Acro. Agreed, but there's nobody else I can really think of, and barely anyone is really active anymore

 

[#HBC | Acrostic]

If I had to decide between Werekill|Panta then then I would go with Panta. If I do switch votes to Panta, then Werekill can also vote Panta to force an nl assuming Seikend really did leave for today. Forcing an nl means that we will go nowhere D1 in terms of information from the lynch, however if I don't force a no lynch then I will lose a town read today. This is really a Catch-22 for me.

 

[Lore]

Actually, I'm L-2. Seikend changed his vote.

 

[SangfroidWarrior]

I don't want a NL. I think I might be willing to vote panta to get a lynch. It's not completely random, so I'm not just voting just to vote, but... I feel bad for Panta

 

[Lore]

If we all 3 change our votes to Panta, it's a lynch.

Just food for thought.

 

[SangfroidWarrior]

Yes, I realize that. I don't feel comfortable in doing so though. AAAARRRGGGGHHHHHH!!!!! Panta, I will you to come back here this instant.