Newbie 13: Organization XIII Mafia ~Town Wins!~

[Gargaglione]

@SW
Yea, just read it for you self and decide, I can't really tell you anything more myself. Feel free to take your time, well, I mean until 11:59. Unless of course, you just don't want to vote him out.

 

[SangfroidWarrior]

Nah. I want it in by 11:30, that way it's not too late. I just really want Acro's input, because we can't do this without him, either.

 

[Lore]

I don't see why you're so undecisive about this. You've repeatedly said that you don't want a NL, and he's the only option. Besides that, he's a slightly scummy option.

I've got a feeling, but I'll wait until the flip to say it.

 

[SangfroidWarrior]

It's just my morals. I don't want to vote for somebody that I don't completely believe is mafia. This is the issue I had earlier on in the Day as well with respect to my Garg vote.

 

[Gova]

1.) Acrostic ()
2.) SangfroidWarrior ()
3.) Panta (3) Garglione, Seikend, Werekill
4.) Seikend (2) BPC, Acrostic
5.) gargaglione ()
6.) Budget Player Cadet_ (1) Panta
7.) Werekill (3) SW, Zen, Kuz
8.) Zen ()
9.) th3kuzinator ()
Not voting -

With 9 playing, it takes 5 to lynch!

Deadline is July 25th at 11:59 PM EST (GMT-5).

 

[Gargaglione]

I'm done for the day, I'm gonna go play tf2 for now, see ya.

 

[Lore]

It's just my morals. I don't want to vote for somebody that I don't completely believe is mafia. This is the issue I had earlier on in the Day as well with respect to my Garg vote.

You've said that I'm slightly scummy and that you merely didn't trust me; doesn't sound like you're completely sure I'm mafia.

Listen. In this game, you have to make decisions that may or may not be risky for town. You have to be able to make the call in the name of information, simple as that. Morals are uneeded in this game.

 

[Lore]

See ya Garg. Thanks for popping in and making a lynch possible.

 

[SangfroidWarrior]

Meh. True. Ugh. Let me do my readthrough of Panta and I'll make my decision then.

 

[#HBC | Acrostic]

Panta:

Asks about roles and name correlation. Doesn't know anything about the flavor. Finds out the entire group are antagonists. Zen, Kuz, Panta are town reads and F.O.S. is on Garg & SW thinks SW's posts are forced and false whereas Zen is pro town and active. Thinks that SW is sheeping Kuz. Feels that Kuz, SW, Zen, and Garga are now all town. Has underlying doubts about SW, but still thinks she is town. Trusts his town read on Kooz and still retains a fos on Garg. Panta doesn't find Pheonix scummy but does find Werekill's #209 scummy. Doesn't have a scumpick. Discussing a game on mafiascum wrt information instead of analysis statement. OMGUS on BPC wrt #349. Claims failure townie. His reads were deleted promises to repost them. #387 SW & Kuz are town, doesn't post explanations. Argument on BPC got deleted, never elaborates. Thinks Were is scum after being called out on not posting material. Foses BPC and Werekill. #405 types up material that had been getting deleted frequently, long post and has logic/reads on players, very detailed. Apologizes and thinks his vote on BPC was incorrect. Buddying with Kooz, I don't even know. Scum pool is Werekill|Shadow Moth|BPC|Garga. Explains what bussing is. Goes with the "tin-hat" theory that there is mafia flip on Werekill will mean Pheonix scum and vice versa.

 

[SangfroidWarrior]

Alright. I've finished my read-through of Panta's posts and... I still don't feel entirely comfortable with voting for him but... I am comfortable that it's not just a complete random "Oh, everybody else is voting for him and we need a lynch so let's just kill him" vote.

Vote: Panta

If you want my reasons, just ask. Otherwise, I don't think I need to explain.

 

[#HBC | Acrostic]

Overall points of interest:
[a] Sheeps Kooz a lot i.e. SW town read & Pheonix|Werekill idea
Coincidentally Kooz insists that Panta is dumb town and not scum
[c] Feels that Zen is town throughout the game based on activity
[d] Apologies for vote on BPC when people begin to vote him
[e] Discredits SW for thinking about Pheonix|Werekill then advocates it as a final point.

 

[SangfroidWarrior]

If panta flips scum and we get lucky, then I'll be happy.

Otherwise, Panta, I apologize.

 

[#HBC | J]

Deadline is in 27 minutes as of this post!

 

[SangfroidWarrior]

Acro, if you want my reasonings for voting Panta, tell me soon. We don't have much time left.

 

[#HBC | Acrostic]

Panta just seems to sheeping Kooz|Zen and doesn't bother formulating genuine reads/concerns. The most notable case of this actually initially materializing is with BPC which he later discredits as being a mistake. Then when he does type out reads in #405, upon analysis most of the comments are just rehashes of analysis from Kooz|Zen. I think I'm going to hammer. If there is some error in my isolated reading then I would appreciate some commentary now.

 

[#HBC | Acrostic]

Sang tell me. I'm going to hammer on Panta though.

 

[Lore]

No major errors. Hammer time?

 

[SangfroidWarrior]

He switched pretty quickly about who was town and who wasn't and zoned in on the noobie players as his mafia votes.

He misunderstands many posts, like he's looking for something that isn't really there.

He misses the complete obvious.

He jumps on the werekill boat after all that we said.

He didn't seem to post much of significance.

He got confused with the Cadet thing, severely.

He acts like it's all over for him when people start to think he's mafia.

He seems like he's looking for pity.

He attacks everyone and seems way too defensive.

He then goes back and says, maybe Werekill wasn't so scummy after all.

He admits to looking for pity.

After a certain point, he stops giving anything that might be informative to finding mafia.

 

[SangfroidWarrior]

It's all mostly a rehash of what everyone else has said, though.

 

[#HBC | Acrostic]

No there were some things in there that I missed. Thank you Sangfroid.

Unvote, Vote: Panta

 

[SangfroidWarrior]

Edit: Meh. Maybe not so much the defensive part but...

 

[Lore]

Any final words, anyone?

Also, Cop. Seriously, consider investigating Kuz and don't blindly go with what he says; he could possibly be scum. Just food for thought.

@Mod: Flip time?

 

[#HBC | J]

A lynch has been reached! The flip will be posted as soon as I finish it!

The game will now be in Twilight until that time. Please use this time to your liking.

 

[#HBC | J]

~The Final D1 Vote Count~

1.) Acrostic ()
2.) SangfroidWarrior ()
3.) Panta (5) Garglione, Seikend, Werekill, SangfroidWarrior, Acrostic
4.) Seikend (1) Budget Player Cadet_
5.) gargaglione ()
6.) Budget Player Cadet_ (1) Panta
7.) Werekill (2) Zen, th3kuzinator
8.) Zen ()
9.) th3kuzinator ()
Not voting -

With 9 playing, it takes 5 to lynch!

Deadline is July 25th at 11:59 PM EST (GMT-5).​

The Organization had finally done it....they had decided to make a member of theirs fade into the darkness and never exist. However were they even really existing in the first place? They all decided to surround the following member they had chosen but he seemed to be silent at first. No one knew what else to do but they all grabbed their weapons who got the numbers to silence this member.

In the final second as the circle began to enclose the member, the hooded man spun and wind knocked back all five of the surrounding org members to the wall. "I won't go without a fight..." he said to them. In that instance a whirlwind began to circle him and it through a bluster through the meeting room. Within the gust, he grabbed his lances and gaurded himself to fight.

However even a great lance weilder such as himself could not fight off 5 members of the organization by himself. Even when he had more weapons on his own...

When they all came at him with their weapons gripped tightly and the amount of venom in the swings taken at him, there was no hope for survival but he fought to the very end. However....his end did come.

Panta, Number III Xaldin, The Whirlwind Lancer, Town Vanilla has been lynched!​

With Xaldin faded out of the picture the fellow members of the organization went back to their rooms so they could gain some rest and think about who they should look into the following days for the conspirators trying to destroy the organization from within.


Now the thread will be closed for the Night Phase of the game so no posting can occur in the thread. Please read the rules as to what happens during Night Phases of the game!

Night 1 will end on July 28th, 2011 11:59pm.

Or it could end earlier if night actions are sent in sooner!

 

[#HBC | J]

During the night as Kingdom Hearts illuminated the dismal sky of The World That Never Was, the organization began to sleep and relax after the grueling day of destroying on of their own. They needed to figure out who was trying to overthrow them all and needed to figure out which on is going to die next.

However, two people however were not worried at all for they knew who was trying to destroy the org....in fact...they were committing acts to help them in their goal against the organization. Tonight they had decided to head on to personally make a single member of the organization fade.

So they slowly walked into a door near the end of the organization rooms. An organization member was sprawled across his bed in a slovenly manner. The blonde mulleted man was not much of a threat but they needed to oust him to achieve their goal. In a few unexpected blows the man began to fade as the two left his room to return to theirs before the others woke up.

Gargaglione, Number IX Demyx, The Melodious Nocturne, Town Vanilla has been killed during the night!​

The other members shortly awoke and moved to the meeting room for yet another day of discussion to figure out who they needed to go. It did not take long to realize that Demyx had been the victim during the night and they realized their numbers were beginning to dwindle down.

The day had begun....

~The First D2 Vote Count~

1.) Acrostic ()
2.) SangfroidWarrior ()
3.) Seikend ()
4.) Budget Player Cadet_ ()
5.) Werekill ()
6.) Zen ()
7.) th3kuzinator ()
Not voting - Acrostic, SangfroidWarrior, Seikend, Budget Player Cadet_, Werekill, Zen, th3kuzinator

With 7 playing, it takes 4 to lynch!

Deadline is August 3rd at 11:59 PM EST (GMT-5).​

 

[Lore]

Welp. I was honestly hoping that we would maybe hit scum, but at least we got rid of an inactive who, even when he was active, was fairly useless.

I'll do a reread with Garg and Panta's flips in mind.

 

[Xivii]

No idea how the hell Panta was lynched yesterday...

 

[Lore]

Also, cop: if you actually investigated Kuz and got a guilty, don't hestitate to claim. He'll likely get passed by, otherwise. If he's innocent or you flat-out investigated someone else, just do what you want.

@Zen: Because he was pretty much the only lynch option. Anyone else would have resulted in a NL.

 

[#HBC | Acrostic]

The lynch choice for me that night was between Werekill|Panta. I read Panta as dumb or scum and believed that Werekill was town. Re-reading through Panta's OMGUS on BPC and his excuses behind not being able to type up his reads, I personally began to see him more as scum especially with Werekill|Sangfroid insisting on it (my two town reads). In retrospect it was a mistake. But I still feel that Panta would be a lurking question mark in the back of my mind.

 

[Lore]

Technically SW was part of the lynch, so you'll be killing one of your town picks.

But hey, at least you'll be killing scum.

 

[#HBC | J]

When you die, you are only allowed to say "Bah go town/scum!". You are not allowed to say any more than that when you die in the game.

 

[Lore]

@Acrostic: Yeah, I would be wondering about Panta too much as well. All in all, I'd say that it was a decently useful lynch since we got rid of a useless player and a question mark.

 

[#HBC | Acrostic]

@Acrostic: Yeah, I would be wondering about Panta too much as well. All in all, I'd say that it was a decently useful lynch since we got rid of a useless player and a question mark.

Agreed. What is your immediate impression of the Gargaglione kill?

 

[Panta]

When you die, you are only allowed to say "Bah go town/scum!". You are not allowed to say any more than that when you die in the game.

That was a go town post.

 

[SangfroidWarrior]

@Acro. Okay, first things first, I never tried to influence you. I was just putting the information out there that I had recieved. I'm the one that feels played. Not by you, maybe, but by the mafia that decided to vote for Panta.

@Werekill. Alright, as I recall, you were one of the ones that really wanted to vote Panta. I did not really want to; I wanted to lynch you. As you pointed out, if we didn't choose Panta it would have been a NL. So, unless you're talking about yourself and revealing yourself as mafia, I'd appreciate you not making silly comments like that at the start of D2, especially if you have nothing really to back them up with except for a lame lynch. Also, Panta wasn't inactive. He was V/LA. I believe I said that.

@Zen. Probably because Panta wasn't there to defend himself, or because nobody else was really there on the deadline of the day.

But, although Panta's town flip may reveal some information, I would like you all to keep in mind that there were, at most, two mafia planning to vote for Panta. The other three were confused townies trying to find the right lynch.

 

[Lore]

Agreed. What is your immediate impression of the Gargaglione kill?

It clears up another question mark, but it was a bad kill. He was likely going to be looked into toDay, so a kill just removes a suspicious townie who could have distracted for scum. I think we're dealing with a mediocre mafia, which could be useful.

@SW: Haha, that was just a joke, of course. Nothing meant by it.

And he was V/LA? I honestly missed this; where did he say it?

 

[SangfroidWarrior]

He didn't say it in this thread, but he said it in UPick, which I'm hydraing with J atm. And, even if it was a joke, it had to have something behind it because you've felt that I was mafia from the beginning. But, meh. Alright. I apologize. I'm just on edge from the Panta lynch.

 

[SangfroidWarrior]

EBWOP: He said that he was going to have some friends over and would be absent Sun. and Mon. I believe.

 

[#HBC | Acrostic]

@Acro. Okay, first things first, I never tried to influence you. I was just putting the information out there that I had recieved. I'm the one that feels played. Not by you, maybe, but by the mafia that decided to vote for Panta.

Let me explain, when I usually don't have scum reads in a game, I usually rely on my town reads to help me dictate the lynch. My scum senses tend to be relatively sub-par, however I do feel fairly confident in identifying one|two townies in a given game and listening to their input on who to lynch. The rest of my decisions come from process of elimination. I did feel that Panta was scummy after reading what Werekill wrote and how Werekill reacted regarding the QT post. I felt that was a more sincere reaction than Panta's when I looked at it.

I lynched Panta because he seemed suspicious and I honestly don't feel like I was played or manipulated. I actually would feel played|manipulated if Panta flipped scum.