th3kuzinator
Smash Master
Okay Dokay.
Quick question, as of right now who do you think is scummier? BPC or Werekill?
Quick question, as of right now who do you think is scummier? BPC or Werekill?
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Newbie 13: Organization XIII Mafia ~Town Wins!~
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Panta
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Tentatively? Werekill, but BPC's play so far makes me feel like he is scummy.
... Hmm that is a hard choice though. I can see why Werekill is scummy. I'm reading the last like 6 or so pages where BPC and Werekill get more active and I will answer your question more thoroughly.
th3kuzinator
Smash Master
Okay.
@Sang: Read on Panta.
@Garg: Read on BPC
@Phoenix and Moth: I expect that content you've promised soon.
@Werekill: Who out of Moth, Zen and Phoenix is the scummiest and why?
@Sang: Read on Panta.
@Garg: Read on BPC
@Phoenix and Moth: I expect that content you've promised soon.
@Werekill: Who out of Moth, Zen and Phoenix is the scummiest and why?
Gova
I'm goin' for it!
1.) Shadow Moth ()
2.) SangfroidWarrior (1) SM
3.) Panta (2) Werekill, BPC
4.) pheonix561 ()
5.) gargaglione ()
6.) Budget Player Cadet_ (1) Panta
7.) Werekill (3) Kuz, SangfroidWarrior, Gargaglione
8.) Zen ()
9.) th3kuzinator ()
Not voting - phoenix, Zen
With 9 playing, it takes 5 to lynch!
Deadline is July 24th at 11:59 PM EST (GMT-5).
2.) SangfroidWarrior (1) SM
3.) Panta (2) Werekill, BPC
4.) pheonix561 ()
5.) gargaglione ()
6.) Budget Player Cadet_ (1) Panta
7.) Werekill (3) Kuz, SangfroidWarrior, Gargaglione
8.) Zen ()
9.) th3kuzinator ()
Not voting - phoenix, Zen
With 9 playing, it takes 5 to lynch!
Deadline is July 24th at 11:59 PM EST (GMT-5).
Panta
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Had a power surge....
Thank God I was on a laptop.
Fml.
let's try this ONE more damn time..
I am erasing myself and SW from the reads list because I find SW pretty towny. I will reference her with regards to reads to other players. Also, if you want a specific read on her from me, just ask.
1.) Shadow Moth
241. Shadow Moth is in this game?
265 (the damn point that lead to me accidentally deleting everything
). Shadow Moth begins contributing with a vote on SW for saying that she was being too defensive and cautious. From that post I didn't feel like he was contributing anything of his own as SW being too defensive has been a common reason people have used to vote her in the beginning of the thread, but she has developed as a player since then and I don't like the reasoning to vote her this late in the thread.
4.) pheonix561
Phoenix enters the thread with the annoying Italicized text in 184. The post barely provides any information that is pertinent to the thread given that we have already read most of it from Kuz's IC posts. He wants to wait until everyone has had time to post before he will vote someone, which means he is actively lurking. I don't necessarily like that. :\
Werekill attaching his vote on SW for Phoenix's reasons seem a little fishy and if I had to say one of the two was scum it would be Werekill. Phoenix looked like he was posting his own thoughts and not something fabricated, Werekill didn't.
5.) gargaglione
141 Garga explains his reasoning for voting SW saying that she was being too defensive. Not a bad reason as she was being cautious with her vote due to her other mafia habits from past games, but still shaky nonetheless.
In 194 and 195 Garga gives very little reason for his vote on me stating that my "arrogance" is suspicious. It seems like he is simply looking for another place to put his vote after SW panned out to be towny.
226 Garga forgets that he already has his vote on me. He says that SW is not as suspicious as before, but he will let his vote ride on her for the time being (when it was really on me). He then goes on to say, "hey, it is only 1 vote right?". Wrong. 1 vote could be life or death in Mafia. That is like saying oh it is only 1 beer, or 1 hit. Alone, yes, they are miniscule and usually don't amount to anything, but together it is something more. Maybe I am over analyzing his actions, but the post displays that Garga isn't really paying attention to the thread and would rather coast through the game until SW has sufficiently appeased his paranoia. The fact that he only considers his vote as a singular vote displays a possible solo behavior that a townie shouldn't have. Food for thought.
6.) Budget Player Cadet_
Mistakenly trying to pressure a player not in the game? Sure, I will give you the benefit of the doubt. However, at 238 your vote on me is shaky. He votes me for "clearly" displaying a scum tell so scummy that even the IC can't see it. He then hypocritically says that I have not posted since my "scumtell" post which further supports his theory of the scumtell. Combine that with 240 and you have quite an arrogant suspicion. Garga, why aren't you suspicious of BPC's arrogance?
He took my misinterpretation and is now trying to force on everyone as something more than it is and quite frankly I don't like it.
BPC has admitted to skimming the thread and not really paying attention when he was reading. He isn't "in" this thread. He is merely taking cursory glances at it and picking out things that he finds could be scumtells. Yes I admit my misinterpretation was bad, but it is not what he is making it out to be.
After I accuse him of being scum he comes back and defends his position and then just hops right back onto the Werekill wagon. BPC, what happened between your unvote on Werekill and then your revote on Werekill? What did your investigation unearth, or confirm about him? Just a reread? :\ Nevermind, Kuz asked the same questions.
Where did I say I was giving up? I'm not going down without a fight and then you just hop right off after doing your little investigation to confirm you had the right guy. His wagon hopping is astounding. Also, calling me emo and saying I suck... thanks.
7.) Werekill
209 Werekill gives us a horrible entry to the thread by choosing to ignore SW's scumhunting and instead voting her because she took too long to place a vote on someone. An act she already gave gave a reason when asked about it.
In post 326 he jumps onto the SW bandwagon about her overly defensive play. I do not like that stance at all. SW if anything did exactly the same thing that Werekill did when he voted her and he is calling her out on her vote. She gave actual reasons for defensiveness and her early vote on Garga, you attached your reasons to Phoenix's at the most opportune time.
Quoting this because I'm confused
When Garg asked her for legit reasons, she said "no, those aren't the only reasons" implying she had more other than the ones she used in the voting post.
Also, his reaction to the L-1 Vote seems... not what I expected. If I was put at L-1 I'd be flipping out all over the place. BPC easily puts Werekill near the lynch and then just as easily after the claim puts him farther away from the lynch. I don't like the ease of which that whole do-or-die scenario ended.
8.) Zen (IC)
At 169 comes into the game to answer a couple of Kuz's questions. He says that he feels Garg is town for Garg's confidence in the amount of fluff posting. He then gives suspicions on SW for her actions so far, but states he gets townie vibes from one of her posts.
214 and 218 are both posts by Zen that I really like. He is actively scumhunting and pointing out the loopholes in SW's logic.
9.) th3kuzinator (IC)
I feel Kuz is also very towny like SW. He is actively trying to scumhunt, pressure voting, and building a map of sorts for late game scumhunting. He is already thinking about the end game for the townies with or without his presence. His suspicions and votes and thought processes seem natural and fluid and display the fact that he genuinely doesn't know who is mafia and who is town.
At first I was a little suspicious of Kuz too. He falls into the too townie/too helpful to be town mindset, but I don't think so anymore as my paragraph above states.
Sorry. I've been doing that (misinterpreting) a lot.
Thank God I was on a laptop.
Fml.
let's try this ONE more damn time..
I am erasing myself and SW from the reads list because I find SW pretty towny. I will reference her with regards to reads to other players. Also, if you want a specific read on her from me, just ask.
1.) Shadow Moth
241. Shadow Moth is in this game?
265 (the damn point that lead to me accidentally deleting everything
). Shadow Moth begins contributing with a vote on SW for saying that she was being too defensive and cautious. From that post I didn't feel like he was contributing anything of his own as SW being too defensive has been a common reason people have used to vote her in the beginning of the thread, but she has developed as a player since then and I don't like the reasoning to vote her this late in the thread. 4.) pheonix561
Phoenix enters the thread with the annoying Italicized text in 184. The post barely provides any information that is pertinent to the thread given that we have already read most of it from Kuz's IC posts. He wants to wait until everyone has had time to post before he will vote someone, which means he is actively lurking. I don't necessarily like that. :\
Werekill attaching his vote on SW for Phoenix's reasons seem a little fishy and if I had to say one of the two was scum it would be Werekill. Phoenix looked like he was posting his own thoughts and not something fabricated, Werekill didn't.
5.) gargaglione
141 Garga explains his reasoning for voting SW saying that she was being too defensive. Not a bad reason as she was being cautious with her vote due to her other mafia habits from past games, but still shaky nonetheless.
In 194 and 195 Garga gives very little reason for his vote on me stating that my "arrogance" is suspicious. It seems like he is simply looking for another place to put his vote after SW panned out to be towny.
226 Garga forgets that he already has his vote on me. He says that SW is not as suspicious as before, but he will let his vote ride on her for the time being (when it was really on me). He then goes on to say, "hey, it is only 1 vote right?". Wrong. 1 vote could be life or death in Mafia. That is like saying oh it is only 1 beer, or 1 hit. Alone, yes, they are miniscule and usually don't amount to anything, but together it is something more. Maybe I am over analyzing his actions, but the post displays that Garga isn't really paying attention to the thread and would rather coast through the game until SW has sufficiently appeased his paranoia. The fact that he only considers his vote as a singular vote displays a possible solo behavior that a townie shouldn't have. Food for thought.
6.) Budget Player Cadet_
Mistakenly trying to pressure a player not in the game? Sure, I will give you the benefit of the doubt. However, at 238 your vote on me is shaky. He votes me for "clearly" displaying a scum tell so scummy that even the IC can't see it. He then hypocritically says that I have not posted since my "scumtell" post which further supports his theory of the scumtell. Combine that with 240 and you have quite an arrogant suspicion. Garga, why aren't you suspicious of BPC's arrogance?
He took my misinterpretation and is now trying to force on everyone as something more than it is and quite frankly I don't like it.
BPC has admitted to skimming the thread and not really paying attention when he was reading. He isn't "in" this thread. He is merely taking cursory glances at it and picking out things that he finds could be scumtells. Yes I admit my misinterpretation was bad, but it is not what he is making it out to be.
After I accuse him of being scum he comes back and defends his position and then just hops right back onto the Werekill wagon. BPC, what happened between your unvote on Werekill and then your revote on Werekill? What did your investigation unearth, or confirm about him? Just a reread? :\ Nevermind, Kuz asked the same questions.
Where did I say I was giving up? I'm not going down without a fight and then you just hop right off after doing your little investigation to confirm you had the right guy. His wagon hopping is astounding. Also, calling me emo and saying I suck... thanks.
7.) Werekill
209 Werekill gives us a horrible entry to the thread by choosing to ignore SW's scumhunting and instead voting her because she took too long to place a vote on someone. An act she already gave gave a reason when asked about it.
In post 326 he jumps onto the SW bandwagon about her overly defensive play. I do not like that stance at all. SW if anything did exactly the same thing that Werekill did when he voted her and he is calling her out on her vote. She gave actual reasons for defensiveness and her early vote on Garga, you attached your reasons to Phoenix's at the most opportune time.
Quoting this because I'm confused
You had not noticed his posts because you were pretty much only reading his posts? Do I have that right?
When Garg asked her for legit reasons, she said "no, those aren't the only reasons" implying she had more other than the ones she used in the voting post.
Also, his reaction to the L-1 Vote seems... not what I expected. If I was put at L-1 I'd be flipping out all over the place. BPC easily puts Werekill near the lynch and then just as easily after the claim puts him farther away from the lynch. I don't like the ease of which that whole do-or-die scenario ended.
8.) Zen (IC)
At 169 comes into the game to answer a couple of Kuz's questions. He says that he feels Garg is town for Garg's confidence in the amount of fluff posting. He then gives suspicions on SW for her actions so far, but states he gets townie vibes from one of her posts.
This may just be semantics ... but when I say vibes I mean subtle things that make me feel one way or another. To me, SW's post screames towniness.
214 and 218 are both posts by Zen that I really like. He is actively scumhunting and pointing out the loopholes in SW's logic.
9.) th3kuzinator (IC)
I feel Kuz is also very towny like SW. He is actively trying to scumhunt, pressure voting, and building a map of sorts for late game scumhunting. He is already thinking about the end game for the townies with or without his presence. His suspicions and votes and thought processes seem natural and fluid and display the fact that he genuinely doesn't know who is mafia and who is town.
At first I was a little suspicious of Kuz too. He falls into the too townie/too helpful to be town mindset, but I don't think so anymore as my paragraph above states.
Panta, why are you completly strawmanning what Cadet said? I really don't like that attack and nothing you've brought up in that post incriminates Cadet in the slightest, reaching or not. He has always expressed his dislike of your slot so saying you're his second pick isn't anything you make it out to be. His joining the most popular wagon, though true, makes perfect sense with the way Werekill has been playing.
@Panta: Remind me of your read on Werekill.
Sorry. I've been doing that (misinterpreting) a lot.
th3kuzinator
Smash Master
That did help a lot, thanks.
I am still curious on how you so blatantly misinterpreted BPC's post though. I'll quote for you the post made by BPC and your follow up. Can you just try to explain to me what your thought process was when you analyzed this post:
I am still curious on how you so blatantly misinterpreted BPC's post though. I'll quote for you the post made by BPC and your follow up. Can you just try to explain to me what your thought process was when you analyzed this post:
and turned it into:
th3kuzinator
Smash Master
But you reference the first post in the second post. How could you not have seen it?
SangfroidWarrior
Smash Journeyman
Hey, mine was only like 1,000 words, and most of that is just quotes.
@Kuzi. Panta seems like he’s been trying to find out who the mafia are because he does give reads on people, and he switches votes and ideas fairly often, which I’m not condemning, but it seems like he doesn’t really know who town is.
His misinterpretation of Cadet’s post… well, it does seem stretching, but it could just be a newbie mistake to over-read things. Thing is, Panta doesn’t seem like that much of a newb to me, especially with some of his WIFOM and IIOA calls. And, after that, he seemed just ready to throw in the towel. He did post a response, though, so I can’t bring too much on that.
But, overall, I’d have to say it’s null leaning town. He does seem to be actively trying to figure people out and where there alignments lie, but some of his calls and reads have been stretching too far, especially with the Cadet thing. His recent post makes me feel he’s more town as he’s pretty suspicious of everyone except for you, me, Zen, and, of course, himself.
th3kuzinator
Smash Master
How did you even know about this?
Gargaglione
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@Panta
I understand where you are coming from, but in the very beginning of the game, just having one vote isn't 'life or death'. My vote wasn't to get anybody lynched. You said it as if I was trying to rally everybody up to vote against you, which was clearly not the case at all. I also don't get where you derived "... paranoia..." out of any of this?
I understand where you are coming from, but in the very beginning of the game, just having one vote isn't 'life or death'. My vote wasn't to get anybody lynched. You said it as if I was trying to rally everybody up to vote against you, which was clearly not the case at all. I also don't get where you derived "... paranoia..." out of any of this?
SangfroidWarrior
Smash Journeyman
I went on mafiascum.net looking for some acronyms and rolls apart from the ones you stated earlier cuz I didn't want to be completely unknowledgable about everything lol. I just saw Panta using it earlier and wanted to see what it meant.
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... What is that? lol...
SangfroidWarrior
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Okay, I know this is probably completely irrelevant and might just be me being stupid, but I wanted to point this out before I forgot.
This is newbie XIII mafia, based off of Organization XIII from Kingdom Hearts 2. Organization XIII has 13 members. But, we only have 9 players. Werekill's call of VT with Roxas could be him just making it up. I mean, it makes sense that Roxas could be VT, so it'd be an easy choice. What I'm mostly just saying is that there are 4 extra people in the organization that mafia could call that might not be even in the game. Just saying, for future reference if it is needed.
This is newbie XIII mafia, based off of Organization XIII from Kingdom Hearts 2. Organization XIII has 13 members. But, we only have 9 players. Werekill's call of VT with Roxas could be him just making it up. I mean, it makes sense that Roxas could be VT, so it'd be an easy choice. What I'm mostly just saying is that there are 4 extra people in the organization that mafia could call that might not be even in the game. Just saying, for future reference if it is needed.
th3kuzinator
Smash Master
information instead of analysis.
basically just describing a situation without analyzing it. A way to generate content without actually giving content. Sometimes its hard to notice but its usually thought of to be a scumtell if done in a high enough quantity.
@Sang: Kay. Just checking.
basically just describing a situation without analyzing it. A way to generate content without actually giving content. Sometimes its hard to notice but its usually thought of to be a scumtell if done in a high enough quantity.
@Sang: Kay. Just checking.
th3kuzinator
Smash Master
Yeah, we have 9 players meaning 9 characters will be used and possible 2 safe claims given? Are there any characters from the 13 that are evil or something?
Gargaglione
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@kuz
thank you sir
thank you sir
SangfroidWarrior
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They're all basically evil. They try to pretty much kill people to take their hearts away so they can get hearts of their own. I guess Larxene and Marluxia can be considered evil, because they try to destroy the organization, but it'd be a very black and white view. Roxas just happens to be the main character's nobody (as in him without a heart, like, if you switch up Sora and put an x in there you get roxas) and yherefore could technically be called good.
Panta
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Ya. I'm an idiot.
Stupid posts like the one I just posted (quoted below) are why I have a self defeating attitude.
I did not read post 406. I was going out to dinner, saw my name and typed up something quickly when I didn't even realize what post you were referring to.
I'll answer your question now.
After you quoted MafiaScum I went to that site. I found a couple of cool articles in their wiki, which is pretty helpful, but those people seem to be all about mafia and I shouldn't be throwing terms like WIFOM around. Or LLOA as I used when describing Kuz. I did it because I thought it would make me look like less a newb. Ya...
Anyway, when I saw that BPC said he agreed with something that wasn't actually said I got overzealous and thought it was a slip of his and started to look at him and make a campaign against him. Without the misinterpreted post on my part, I still think he is suspicious, but my vote was too early and premature as well as completely illogical after I have had time to look at it.
I know making statements that are throwing in the towel but i'll say it anyway. I've really acted like an idiot and I wouldn't be mad if i was lynched or killed or whatever. I deserve it for being such a ******.
Given the fact that my character and I am going to assume everyone's character is on the front page art, the roles are probably randomly given out among the players.
Gargaglione
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@Panta
Wow... Now you're looking for pity?... Wow just wow....
Wow... Now you're looking for pity?... Wow just wow....
SangfroidWarrior
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@Garg. I don't know if he's looking for pity so much as just pissed off at himself and raging about it on here, which could be taken as asking for pity, but he's kind of just taking it overboard.
@Panta. Dude, calm down. At the moment, not very many people are wanting to kill you. Yes, you have made mistakes, but the point is to learn from them. That's basically the point of this newbie game. Take a breath, relax, re-read, and try not to make the same mistakes as you have. It's alright. If you get lynched, it's not going to be solely based on your mistakes.
@Panta. Dude, calm down. At the moment, not very many people are wanting to kill you. Yes, you have made mistakes, but the point is to learn from them. That's basically the point of this newbie game. Take a breath, relax, re-read, and try not to make the same mistakes as you have. It's alright. If you get lynched, it's not going to be solely based on your mistakes.
Panta
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th3kuzinator
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@Mod: Can you prod Shadow Moth? Thanks.
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what's prodding?
th3kuzinator
Smash Master
If you don't post every 48 hours you receive a prod from the mod for inactivity. This is basically just a pm telling you to post.
I want Moth in here giving me some answers which is why I asked the mod to prod him since he has been gone for more than 48 hours. He was viewing for a long period today but didn't bother saying anything.
I want Moth in here giving me some answers which is why I asked the mod to prod him since he has been gone for more than 48 hours. He was viewing for a long period today but didn't bother saying anything.
th3kuzinator
Smash Master
Oh and yeah, Panta, don't worry about it. Even if you were to get lynched (which is the last thing in the world that I currently want atm) its just a game and no one is going to judge you for it. Like Sang said, just calm down, regardless of alignment we're friends here and this newbie game should be fun, not stressful.
On that note just know if you are scum then you should be stressed
But you're not scum, right?
On that note just know if you are scum then you should be stressed
But you're not scum, right?
Panta
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Means a lot to me Kuz and I'm not scum. So we can have a house party together while someone (else) gets murdered.Oh and yeah, Panta, don't worry about it. Even if you were to get lynched (which is the last thing in the world that I currently want atm) its just a game and no one is going to judge you for it. Like Sang said, just calm down, regardless of alignment we're friends here and this newbie game should be fun, not stressful.
On that note just know if you are scum then you should be stressed
But you're not scum, right?
th3kuzinator
Smash Master
Man I hasn't used emoticons in a mafia game in so long.
In other news, I've narrowed down the 2 scum to 4 remaining suspects, one of them being Werekill. I did a full re-read tonight and I do not condone a Panta lynch.
In other news, I've narrowed down the 2 scum to 4 remaining suspects, one of them being Werekill. I did a full re-read tonight and I do not condone a Panta lynch.
th3kuzinator
Smash Master
Definitely want to hear from the inactives before we end the Day though. We've got around 48 hours until the deadline so lets make em count.
SangfroidWarrior
Smash Journeyman
@Kuzi. Who are you're 4 scum?
Panta
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From his pestering of Shadow I am going to assume
Werekill
Shadow Moth
BPC?
Garga?
Gargaglione
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@Panta
What makes me on that list?
What makes me on that list?
th3kuzinator
Smash Master
http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=13055366&postcount=403
Only Sang has answered her question in this post. Everyone else please get on that.
http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=13055287&postcount=399
And this.
I'll keep my hand hidden right now. There's a benefit to doing so and I'll explain later.
@Mod: How long is twilight in this game?
@Panta: Would you be okay with switching your vote to Werekill at the end of today so we have 24 hours for a hammer? We can't no lynch.
Only Sang has answered her question in this post. Everyone else please get on that.
http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=13055287&postcount=399
And this.
I'll keep my hand hidden right now. There's a benefit to doing so and I'll explain later.
@Mod: How long is twilight in this game?
@Panta: Would you be okay with switching your vote to Werekill at the end of today so we have 24 hours for a hammer? We can't no lynch.
th3kuzinator
Smash Master
Nevermind. Twilight only lasts until the flip is posted.
I'll do this ahead of time.
When we secure a lynch the game will go into twilight at which point we can still post in thread until the mod does the flip for us. After the flip goes up we may not talk in thread and the Night phase will begin. This is the point where you will get to use Night actions, assuming you have them.
Now because of the setup we don't exactly know which two town PRs are in this game. Could be any two variations of Doc/Cop/Deputy/Nurse.
I'll just assume both full-fledged options and give you general templates for N1 (be sure not to comment on or even acknowledge this post as it might give the mafia tells as to who actually are those power roles). If you are the power role I direct at just read what I've written and think about the intent behind my request. Ultimately the decision is yours but I suggest you follow this template on the first Night.
@Doc: Flip a coin between Zen and myself. IE 50/50 between the ICs. I know this is counter intuitive to the point of choosing who you're going to protect but by making your choice completely at random between the two of us, that should scare off scum trying to kill us during the Night (they wouldn't want to risk hitting the doc protect; screws them over).
@Cop: Investigate one of Moth, Phoenix, Zen. Again, the choice is ultimately yours but choosing within this template will be fruitful. I promise.
I'll do this ahead of time.
When we secure a lynch the game will go into twilight at which point we can still post in thread until the mod does the flip for us. After the flip goes up we may not talk in thread and the Night phase will begin. This is the point where you will get to use Night actions, assuming you have them.
Now because of the setup we don't exactly know which two town PRs are in this game. Could be any two variations of Doc/Cop/Deputy/Nurse.
I'll just assume both full-fledged options and give you general templates for N1 (be sure not to comment on or even acknowledge this post as it might give the mafia tells as to who actually are those power roles). If you are the power role I direct at just read what I've written and think about the intent behind my request. Ultimately the decision is yours but I suggest you follow this template on the first Night.
@Doc: Flip a coin between Zen and myself. IE 50/50 between the ICs. I know this is counter intuitive to the point of choosing who you're going to protect but by making your choice completely at random between the two of us, that should scare off scum trying to kill us during the Night (they wouldn't want to risk hitting the doc protect; screws them over).
@Cop: Investigate one of Moth, Phoenix, Zen. Again, the choice is ultimately yours but choosing within this template will be fruitful. I promise.
th3kuzinator
Smash Master
I changed my mind.
Unvote
@Panta and BPC: Can you put your votes on Werekill please. With this game's inactivity + Werekill's possible scummate I don't feel comfortable with expecting a hammer from someone and not getting it.
I'll be around tomorrow to hammer before the deadline.
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@Panta and BPC: Can you put your votes on Werekill please. With this game's inactivity + Werekill's possible scummate I don't feel comfortable with expecting a hammer from someone and not getting it.
I'll be around tomorrow to hammer before the deadline.
Man, I just read Panta's newest stuff, and the AtE is making me like him even less. He's also seeming slightly wishy-washy in his stances as well.
I also don't like how SW keeps assuming that scumhunting makes a person town. A good scum player will likely hunt plenty, imo. This isn't a scumtell, of course, but I'm mentioning it anyway.
I also don't like how SW keeps assuming that scumhunting makes a person town. A good scum player will likely hunt plenty, imo. This isn't a scumtell, of course, but I'm mentioning it anyway.
Bleh, missed that post since I was posting while you were.
I don't like how you're trying to unvote here. It's like giving yourself a chance to say later "Oh, I also was a bit shaky on the lynch at that point" when I flip town.
I don't like how you're trying to unvote here. It's like giving yourself a chance to say later "Oh, I also was a bit shaky on the lynch at that point" when I flip town.
th3kuzinator
Smash Master
Did you even read my post? I'm unvoting so that people can vote you so I can be the one to guarantee a hammer after we've had enough discussion before the deadline.
If anything I'm expressing intent that I'm sure I want to hammer you. Don't bother trying to turn this around.
If anything I'm expressing intent that I'm sure I want to hammer you. Don't bother trying to turn this around.
Budget Player Cadet_
Smash Hero
I heavily recommend one or more of the following:
-Firefox 5.0 (saves that ****)
-Using notepad
Arrogant? Let's get something straight here.
Day one, you almost never have anything to go on. The one mafia game where I remember clear reads on day one was the game where the best player on the site got lynched Day 1... and had a Jester role (as in, he wins if he gets lynched). Day one you almost never have anything solid to go on. You've acted the scummiest over the period of this game, especially with your recent posts. Even now, this feels less like "I have an honest reason to suspect BPC" and more "Oh my god you suck".
Am I 100% sure that you're scum? Of course not. You never are. But especially because this is D1 and nobody is dead, we don't have much to go on at all. We're all grasping at straws. And you seem to be the one who's worst off.
It was a pretty serious misinterpretation. Excuse me for taking an almost "too dumb to be real" mistake as an intentful strawmanning of my posts and an intent to throw suspect on me.
Oh look, here we go again!
No, I said that I often have a lot of stuff going on at once.
No, I'm one of the most active posters at the moment.
No, I've done a full read of the thread several times, and also essentially scanned all the posts by two different people who were acting suspicious. I am not merely taking cursory glances at it.
Nope, but when you do it again? And just as bad?
Just a reread. I wanted to make sure that there was nothing posted recently that would make me revise wanting the hammer dropped on him. Glad I did, otherwise someone might have rushed the night and we would've missed this.
"Stop acting emo" was a direct response to you calling yourself "****ty townie".
See, this is exactly what I mean.
I was under the impression that Werekill was at L-2 after my vote. After it turned out I was wrong, I decided not to unvote until we got a claim because it strengthened the message of "claim now" and at the same time would allow anyone who was willing to rush the lynch to be suspect the next day.
@Kuz: Scummate?
I'm just not convinced that Werekill is the right lynch for day one.