New Smash Bros for WiiU

[Metal Overlord]

This will probably be very sparse, like once every six months to ensure full development of DLC characters and to balance them out with others that are already available. There's also the fact that you'll also need the ability to fight against DLC characters even if you don't have them.

They have patches for that.

[hey, do you guys think the WiiU will have achievements like XBL and PSN?]

Good question, I dunno, I thought I heard Ninty say a while back that they were against that idea? Then again, way back when, they said they were against DLC, too...

Having different rosters defeats the purpose of inter-connectivity, though. If you have an exclusive on one, you couldn't transfer them to the other.

As I said before, just make them timed-exclusive content to one system and have them available to both systems after a few weeks via a free update to your content or as free DLC.

I only support the version exclusives idea for Pokemon, though.

 

[nLiM8d]

DLC Talk?

Look at this list.

• Toad
• Bowser Jr
• Dixie
• Medusa
• Ghirahim
• Tingle
• Victini
• Deoxys
• Zoroark
• Krystal
• Black Knight
• (Insert FE Protagonist*)
• Masked Man
• Black Shadow
• Samurai Goroh

There are legitimate reasons as to why these characters are desired and viable.

Do you want each one of these characters? Yes?

Then Pay for them.

Sure

 

[Conviction]

Sounds fine.

 

[Oasis_S]

As I said before, just make them timed-exclusive content to one system and have them available to both systems after a few weeks via a free update to your content or as free DLC.

You don't see that as entirely convoluted?

 

[vicgur]

Having different rosters defeats the purpose of inter-connectivity, though. If you have an exclusive on one, you couldn't transfer them to the other. And if you COULD, that would mean that character is already on the disc/cart but you're not able to use it without the other version, which would be ridiculous.

And whether one is single-player focused, and the other multi-player focused, it's still going to be player focused. The playable characters should remain a constant.

Nice point you got there.
But we gotta remember that all the "character transfer" idea was just something Sakurai threw on the table for the speculations.
This idea could be something that you do with ONE customizable character[obvious Mii is obvious] or ALL the characters. It's not an exact science. Either of us can be wrong as much as both of us can be wrong... Damn Sakurai and his chaotic mind!!


PS: In less than 24h we'll have the conference. Just throwing it here...

 

[nLiM8d]

Having different rosters defeats the purpose of inter-connectivity, though.

Not if you've unlocked somebody on one version and not the other.

That's about it though

 

[Metal Overlord]

You don't see that as entirely convoluted?

No. Elaborate please.

They did it for Soul Calibur IV, why not for Smash?

I only support the version exclusives idea for Pokemon, though.

 

[Pachinkosam]

DLC Talk?



Sure

nice roster dude XD got problems sorry

 

[nLiM8d]

Yo for pokemon Just go for Mewtwo, Victini and a variation of the Trainer, preferably vicG's.

Call it a day.

 

[MechaWave]

PS: In less than 24h we'll have the conference. Just throwing it here...

It's way too late at night for me (like 10/11pm).

 

[Deleted member]

@nLiM8d: I'd like this Pokemon roster (One you're describing):
- Pikachu
- Jigglypuff
- Pokemon Trainer
- Mewtwo
- Victini

Deoxys would be awesome as well, but the only way it's going to have a real shot is if a remake is announced this year or next year for the 3rd gen. Sadly, I don't imagine that happening.

That said, I am expecting the next week to change my predictions a little and if the FE13 rumor is true, the lord from that game will be the most likely newcomer.

 

[nLiM8d]

Man I'd love it if Deoxys could show up as wel

If only jigzy wouldn't mind giving up his/her/its spot for just this once.

 

[Deleted member]

Man I'd love it if Deoxys could show up as wel

If only jigzy wouldn't mind giving up his/her/its spot for just this once.

You're not alone in wanting Deoxys by far; although not at the expense of Jigglypuff. I think it should have its own slot, taking the place of Mewtwo.

In the case we get a Ruby/Sapphire remake announced next week (which I don't expect), a 3rd gen Pokemon will be likely and Deoxys will gain a ton of support. With that said, lets tally up all Deoxys supporters:
Me
Shortiecanbrawl
nLiM8d
---
Starphonix
Metal Overlord
vicgur
xIblisx

 

[nLiM8d]

I think Tri-Hi and Star are up in there too.

vicG maybe....?

 

[Metal Overlord]

In the case we get a Ruby/Sapphire remake announced next week (which I don't expect), a 3rd gen Pokemon will be likely and Deoxys will gain a ton of support. With that said, lets tally up all Deoxys supporters:
Me
Shortiecanbrawl
nLiM8d

Add me to that list.

 

[vicgur]

vicG maybe....?

Completely.
Deoxys comes right after Mewtwo in my list!

 

[Phostopheles]

Why can't I see Phostopheles' newer posts? =/

That's cuz there weren't any. People are just quoting stuff that was so five minutes ago. I've been afk cooking. But now I'm back for moral support.

 

[Deleted member]

I think Deoxys is one of these characters that many people want but don't actively say due to fears of getting flamed, knowing that Deoxys is unlikely and lost its best shot in Brawl. I'd bet that Deoxys has more supporters for its inclusion then any 5th gen Pokemon to this date, it's just that the fans are silent.

 

[Conviction]

Might as well add me to that list SSBF.

 

[nLiM8d]

True dat, flaming of that sort is strange to me.

its something I just know in my knower though. Gotta keep the faith

 

[Deleted member]

Me
Shortiecanbrawl
nLiM8d
---
Starphonix
Metal Overlord
vicgur
xIblisx
Oasis_S

That's nine supporters already.

 

[nLiM8d]

There was a conversation not to recently about it, I'll see who I can find.

Deoxys is a unique individual in that it can change its form to adapt to its surroundings. For an idea of what I'm saying...

The normal form would be the balanced form; the attack form is the heavy hitter, but has a very poor shield; the defense form utilizes a strong shield, and has its weight enhanced, but it is lacking in power; the speed form is super fast, and has top notch recovery, but its weight is heavily reduced.

Edit: An example of Deoxys's stat distribution...

--------------
Normal Deoxys

Offensive Strength: 6/10
Defensive Strength: 6/10
Ground Speed: 6/10
Running Speed: 6/10
Jump Height: 6/10
Mid-air Jump Height: 6/10
Air Speed: 6/10
Falling Speed: 6/10
Recovery: 6/10
Weight: 6/10
--------------
Attack Deoxys

Offensive Strength: 10/10
Defensive Strength: 2/10
Ground Speed: 6/10
Running Speed: 6/10
Jump Height: 6/10
Mid-air Jump Height: 6/10
Air Speed: 6/10
Falling Speed: 6/10
Recovery: 6/10
Weight: 6/10
--------------
Defense Deoxys

Offensive Strength: 4/10
Defensive Strength: 10/10
Ground Speed: 4/10
Running Speed: 4/10
Jump Height: 6/10
Mid-air Jump Height: 6/10
Air Speed: 6/10
Falling Speed: 6/10
Recovery: 6/10
Weight: 8/10
--------------
Speed Deoxys

Offensive Strength: 6/10
Defensive Strength: 6/10
Ground Speed: 8/10
Running Speed: 10/10
Jump Height: 6/10
Mid-air Jump Height: 6/10
Air Speed: 6/10
Falling Speed: 2/10
Recovery: 8/10
Weight: 2/10
--------------

LOL is sw96 somebody we might know?

 

[Pachinkosam]

well got to go then. u can such my big toe

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

Actually a Ruby/ Sapphire remake would be nice.

I don't expect it either because V gen is already a console behind and Silver/ Gold were more about fan demand

VI gen already Nintendo, you are behind

 

[Conviction]

I like the stats!

 

[Oasis_S]

No. Elaborate please.

They did it for Soul Calibur IV, why not for Smash?

There's no point to it.

With Soul Calibur, you had different consoles competing. With Sm4sh, it's Nintendo both ways. Except in your proposal they don't make a buck off of it either way.

@vicgur: All characters would be "customizable." I guess there was a translation error somewhere or SOMETHING, but he meant you'd be able to "build up" your characters in battles and by collecting stuff. RPG elements, y'know? He wasn't suggesting characters like the Animal Crossing villager, FE's "My Unit", or Miis just because they have an aspect of customizability to them.


Also yay Deoxys.

 

[vicgur]

Why not a Fire Red/Leaf Green remake?
Like, Burning Fire Red/Photosynthesis Leaf Green, or some sh** like that.
That would boost Mewtwo's chances, wouldn't it.
PLUS: It'd be a remake of a remake: REMAKECEPTION!!

 

[Deleted member]

Why not a Fire Red/Leaf Green remake?
Like, Burning Fire Red/Photosynthesis Leaf Green, or some sh** like that.
That would boost Mewtwo's chances, wouldn't it.
PLUS: It'd be a remake of a remake: REMAKECEPTION!!

I think you've answer your own question.

It already got a remake, let the next gen have it's turn.

 

[nLiM8d]

Why not a Fire Red/Leaf Green remake?
Like, Burning Fire Red/Photosynthesis Leaf Green, or some sh** like that.
That would boost Mewtwo's chances, wouldn't it.
PLUS: It'd be a remake of a remake: REMAKECEPTION!!

You are the man, anyone that can make me laugh is good in my book.

I'm glad this discussion is coming back around.

Actually, honest opinion guys: Do we really want another Gen?

Doesn't pokemon have enough avenues of depth that they can expand on for a full experience?

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

You are the man, anyone that can make me laugh is good in my book.

I'm glad this discussion is coming back around.

Actually, honest opinion guys: Do we really want another Gen?

Doesn't pokemon have enough avenues of depth that they can expand on for a full experience?

I'd rather they fleshed out some of he past areas or something actually

Make it so you can travel between regions or something.

Pokemon MMO where you can choose your region starting location

 

[Conviction]

oh yeah I think Pokemon is long overdue for an MMO, I mean they should that first before making a new gen.

 

[Deleted member]

@nLiM8d: Staying by the traditional format, no. I love the Pokemon series, but it's time to end it before the quality drops big time and it stops selling very well. Personally, I want to see Game Freak do a new series.

 

[nLiM8d]

That has me pretty excited, actually.

I'd like to see what they can do with their resources much in the way the original pokemon concept was constructed.

Not a big fan of milking the cash cow by piggybacking success stories as Nintendo is quickly finding out doesn't work as well anymore.

 

[Shorts]

I'd rather they fleshed out some of he past areas or something actually

Make it so you can travel between regions or something.

Pokemon MMO where you can choose your region starting location

Traveling between The four first regions and Unova. . . would be more than a boat ride. (Japan to New York). Also, the games have a timeline, so yeah. You can't just connect the dots randomly. It would have to make sense. (I don't even know if the 1st and 3rd Gen Gym leaders are even alive anymore).

Anyways, back to smash. Third Gen level? I was thinking Meteor Falls is really spacey, why not have it be Deoxys's level?

I also like PKMN Coliseum, Mt. Pyre, and Mt. Chimney. Battle of Origin is lame IMO.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

Traveling between The four first regions and Unova. . . would be more than a boat ride. (Japan to New York). Also, the games have a timeline, so yeah. You can't just connect the dots randomly. It would have to make sense. (I don't even know if the 1st and 3rd Gen Gym leaders are even alive anymore).

Anyways, back to smash. Third Gen level? I was thinking Meteor Falls is really spacey, why not have it be Deoxys's level?

I don't mean in the games timeline.

A new timeline outside of that, maybe years later or in the past

In WOW, a boatride between continents just takes a loading screen time. They could do that

 

[Oasis_S]

Nooo. Gen III stage must be Sootopolis City. D:

 

[nLiM8d]

Lol, don't continents exist regardless of who lives there? You can't tell me that folks don't play golf in the same locations that were esteemed forty, fifty years ago.

Do the MMO.

 

[Shorts]

Nooo. Gen III stage must be Sootopolis City. D:

. . . . If you give me a good scenario I'm down. I actually think it's one of the most iconic spots in the series.

A new timeline outside of that, maybe years later or in the past

In WOW, a boatride between continents just takes a loading screen time. They could do that

Well yeah. The timeline could be interesting. That's why they have no old Pokemon in BW I figured out.


Pokemon so far has never let me down. I don't expect any generations to suck.

 

[vicgur]

You are the man, anyone that can make me laugh is good in my book.
I'm glad this discussion is coming back around.
Actually, honest opinion guys: Do we really want another Gen?
Doesn't pokemon have enough avenues of depth that they can expand on for a full experience?

Ha, thanks man!

About "another Gen", I think they can expand the series if they want, AS LONG AS it's well done.
Gen 4 was well made. I liked it a lot and it helped me to return playing the series after the GBA hiatus[I didn't have a GBA].
But IMO, Gen 5 didn't add much like I expected it would. I was disappoint. I barelly played my Pokémon Black... [some cool new pokémon, and that's it...]
If they wanna make a VI Gen, fine. But they better make it right, or I'll shoot a dentist.

Also, again IMO, more pokémon means a more challenging 100%. Unfortunately, no achievements[or something like that] makes it a little pointless.

 

[vicgur]

I want to see Game Freak do a new series.

Like Drill Dozer?


PS: Sorry for the double post...