New Smash Bros for WiiU

[Metal Overlord]

A roster in the low 50's sounds about right to me (not uncluding transformations).

 

[Neontiger94]

55 slots is still too much imo

I say 44-50 slots is a reasonable amount

 

[MechaWave]

Actually, 50-55 sounds 100% reasonable. In Brawl we just got 10 extra characters and most rosters we post have that much and we're satisfied.

I doubt completely of a universal roster. It's just too chaotic.

 

[Deleted member]

Personally, I'm only expecting 36 characters, not including transformations. But realistically speaking, 44-49 slots sounds like a good area to bet.

 

[Metal Overlord]

Also, if we get universal roster, while it won't limit it to 40-ish slots, it will make 60+ slots difficult to put in.

Why would we get universal roster?

 

[Mario & Sonic Guy]

Ghirahim fans should read this, because that's really all I can think of when I see him. A cross-dressing, almost certainly flaming bishounen.

Speaking of which:

http://i715.photobucket.com/albums/ww155/Vermilion_Thanatos/****.png

Boy does he look disgusting. I'm just glad that I'm against his unlikely inclusion.

 

[Oasis_S]

Why would we get universal roster?

Because it's the obvious thing to do.

 

[MechaWave]

Personally, I'm only expecting 36 characters, not including transformations. But realistically speaking, 44-49 slots sounds like a good area to bet.

Why would you have even less characters than in Brawl in the next installment?

Why would we get universal roster?

To create balance between the 3DS and Wii U so people don't have to buy both to switch out their characters on the 3DS when in reality most people will buy the Wii U version instead as Sakurai has already pointed out the 3DS version will be more single-player like.

 

[Deleted member]

Why would you have even less characters than in Brawl in the next installment?

That's why I said NOT including transformations. Meaning 36 slots.

 

[Neontiger94]

I say 42 slots is perfect. With this they can capitalize on DLC

I'm not a huge fan of DLC, but it's almost bound to happen

 

[Conviction]

Sure, you don't want to admit that you're a hypocrite or a few steps shy of a fool, that's fine.

Doesn't really help that your contribution to this thread was either to troll, flame, or project bias.

But tonight, your in my house and I can play a pretty mean flame game.

Leh go.

:O i liked sunshine more than galaxy

Real talk.

I wish this thread was like it was when it re-opened and people posted the off-topic stuff in the backroom and the on-topic stuff here. It was a terrific balance.

**** it, you *****s that **** like it was hot when this thread opened back up. Smh

I'd rather it be true to the series than competitive

GTF

lol, i'm going to the backroom

You're in there?

I want it to be both.

More real talk.

Because 55 slots is already a nightmare to balance. 60 slots would be nigh-impossible for them to do it and I don't think they'll make time for it. Also, if we get universal roster, while it won't limit it to 40-ish slots, it will make 60+ slots difficult to put in.

Many fans want better balance and Sakurai cares more then just characters. Honestly, 49 slots is pretty much perfect.

Aight the FanMan I know is back. Balance is key. Perfection is impossible but getting close as possible, is.

 

[MechaWave]

@Neon: DLC means downloadable content. I hope you're not thinking of paid DLC, which many are against because I'm all for regular DLC.

 

[Metal Overlord]

To create balance between the 3DS and Wii U so people don't have to buy both to switch out their characters on the 3DS when in reality most people will buy the Wii U version instead as Sakurai has already pointed out the 3DS version will be more single-player like.

If there are version exclusive characters, you could make them available to both systems a few weeks later via free DLC/a free update.

 

[Neontiger94]

@Neon: DLC means downloadable content. I hope you're not thinking of paid DLC, which many are against because I'm all for regular DLC.

Lolz of course it will be paid DLC. The key word I used was 'capitalize'

 

[vicgur]

People are talking like the 3DS and the WiiU games are gonna be ports of each other...

I, for one, am expecting two different games, with different rosters, modes, stages, items etc.

 

[Conviction]

TBH, I dislike the whole 2 smash games anyways.

I feel the 3DS will neglected, just the like thread for it does. I don't blame people neglecting it either. Smash has been a household game.

I can't see tournies being run with 3DS's either....LOL the image of us in GA trying that. Salt.

 

[Neontiger94]

People are talking like the 3DS and the WiiU games are gonna be ports of each other...

I, for one, am expecting two different games, with different rosters, modes, stages, items etc.

ughh this will probably happen. Honestly I am not inclined to buy a 3DS at this moment, if at all. Smash should have remained home exclusive, imho

 

[Deleted member]

I say 42 slots is perfect. With this they can capitalize on DLC

I'm not a huge fan of DLC, but it's almost bound to happen

I think 45 slots is more realistic even with DLC and universal roster. Each game brings at least ten new characters into the game and ten extra slots. We are also bound to get a fifth row and most people are expecting at least that. If we had a newcomer list like this:

1. Bowser Jr.
2. King K. Rool
3. Ridley
4. Zoroark/Victini
5. Medusa
6. Little Mac
7. Isaac
8. Saki Amamiya
9. Takamaru
10. Mega Man
11?. Mewtwo (to take Lucario's spot))

People will realistic expectations will be happy.

We could bump that to 50-55 slots. Some examples of good DLC:

1. Starfy
2. Ray (Custom Robo)
3. Black Shadow
4. Slime
5. Roy (Cut Melee vet returning)
6. Krystal
7?. Lucario
8?. Mewtwo
9. Professor Layton
10. Ryu Hayabusa

 

[MechaWave]

People are talking like the 3DS and the WiiU games are gonna be ports of each other...

I, for one, am expecting two different games, with different rosters, modes, stages, items etc.

Actually Sakurai never said if they will be ports, just "connected in some way." We all assume things.

TBH, I dislike the whole 2 smash games anyways.

I feel the 3DS will neglected, just the like thread for it does. I don't blame people neglecting it either. Smash has been a household game.

I can't see tournies being run with 3DS's either....LOL the image of us in GA trying that. Salt.

I don't think the 3DS can be run alongside tournies anyways. Besides it's not intended to be multiplayer (because in actuality it can't.)

 

[nLiM8d]

While I'm all for having a roster as large as possible, the fact is that fad characters don't have high survivability and there's no point in keeping around dead weight. Jigglypuff and Yoshi survived. The forbidden seven didn't. And if I had to make a list of character that could (mind you, COULD, not WILL or SHOULD) be shafted in favor of newcomers:

So essentially you're comparing the characters that no one was supposed to recognize in the first place, to characters that existed in Smash from the begging?

I'm starting to see a disjoint, because it seems to me like you're discernment of the two characters has to do with them being "Dead Weight", which really has no backing.

Furthermore, that would suggest that each of the forbidden seven don't have any credibility. Which is certainly false as well. Note that 3 out of the seven have had their spots held in Brawl, and for whatever reason, two out of the seven couldn't be included due functional issues. That leaves toon Zelda and toon Shiek.

So logically, four renditions of Zelda? Do the math.

 

[Pachinkosam]

i hate 3ds is stupid smash in that small think YEAH U WISH AM SO LONELY

 

[MechaWave]

Why can't I see Phostopheles' newer posts? =/

 

[vicgur]

50 is my number. I'll support it until something or someone disproves it with a picture of the actual roster.


Oh, and I'll bet 20 internet fictional bucks that you'll be forced to get the 3DS version somehow.
Unlocking a character, a stage, an item, anything. I bet you're not gonna get 100% without the 3DS version. Mark my words.

 

[Conviction]

If we DLC, idk how to fairly gauge characters. I mean it's DLC.

@Mecha: I can't see them either, but it saves my braincells to not see them.

 

[vicgur]

Why can't I see Phostopheles' newer posts? =/

I don't think he is posting, is he?

I think N is just counter-attacking everything that he said in the thread.

 

[Oasis_S]

Why can't I see Phostopheles' newer posts? =/

If you mean what I think you do, N is actually stalking down his older posts.


Also, the 3DS and WiiU versions are already stated to have different focuses about them. No one should believe they'll be ports.

 

[Neontiger94]

50 is my number. I'll support it until something or someone disproves it with a picture of the actual roster.


Oh, and I'll bet 20 internet fictional bucks that you'll be forced to get the 3DS version somehow.
Unlocking a character, a stage, an item, anything. I bet you're not gonna get 100% without the 3DS version. Mark my words.

And i'll bet that you're right. Annother reason why smash should have been console exclusive

 

[Pachinkosam]

Why can't I see Phostopheles' newer posts? =/

i dont think wes posting

 

[Deleted member]

If we DLC, idk how to fairly gauge characters. I mean it's DLC.

@Mecha: I can't see them either, but it saves my braincells to not see them.

This will probably be very sparse, like once every six months to ensure full development of DLC characters and to balance them out with others that are already available. There's also the fact that you'll also need the ability to fight against DLC characters even if you don't have them.

 

[MechaWave]

I'm sure he's posting. I him. D:

 

[Conviction]

Good point SSBF, I wonder how they would present DLC characters.

 

[vicgur]

Also, the 3DS and WiiU versions are already stated to have different focuses about them. No one should believe they'll be ports.

I'm saying that because of the "universal roster" talk.
I don't think it'll happen. I think 3DS will have less characters[and maybe some exclusive[I'd say some characters with portable franchises[Kyle Hyde is the man]]]

 

[nLiM8d]

Meh, IDRC either way

I thought I would have a challenge, at least things have gone back to normal.

 

[Neontiger94]

They could possibly already design 50 characters or so, and only put 44 on the disk. This way they can use the remaining one's as DLC every month or so

Kind of what COD does with its maps

 

[MechaWave]

I just care about Paper Mario and Mewtwo.

I have to get off here now sadly. baibai~

 

[vicgur]

[hey, do you guys think the WiiU will have achievements like XBL and PSN?]


And why the hell are you talking about DLCs!?
I know it's a possibility, but you're talking about it like Nintendo was like goddamn Capcom!

 

[Deleted member]

They could possibly already design 50 characters or so, and only put 44 on the disk. This way they can use the remaining one's as DLC every month or so

Kind of what COD does with its maps

If Smash is getting DLC, they will not just slap characters on-disc like Capcom does and force us to pay money to unlock them. Nintendo are against low-quality DLC and if we do get DLC characters, they will not be available soon after launch.

Plus they kind of like to complete their games so we are more likely to have 50 slots with no DLC then 45 slots and 5 more characters on-disc that you have to pay to unlock. We don't need them to be the next Capcom and we all know how much we hate Capcom for doing that.

 

[Oasis_S]

I'm saying that because of the "universal roster" talk.
I don't think it'll happen. I think 3DS will have less characters[and maybe some exclusive[I'd say some characters with portable franchises[Kyle Hyde is the man]]]

Having different rosters defeats the purpose of inter-connectivity, though. If you have an exclusive on one, you couldn't transfer them to the other. And if you COULD, that would mean that character is already on the disc/cart but you're not able to use it without the other version, which would be ridiculous.

And whether one is single-player focused, and the other multi-player focused, it's still going to be player focused. The playable characters should remain a constant.

 

[Neontiger94]

I think Nintendo already proved they don't flow well with the achievements thing. But who knows, I know they are an incentive for a lot of people to play more.

And on that note, I must be off to bed. I have school in the morning

 

[Conviction]

Yeah Smash won't turn into Super Blocking Isn't Broken 4: But Yun Twins Are Edition.