@--- (#25945): Ahh I see. There has been a pattern going in which cut characters from previous installments were added into the next one. It happened with Melee and it happened with Brawl. I see it as likely that one of the Forbidden Seven will be made playable in SSB4.
I've always had the feeling that Mewtwo would return as a playable character and the more I think about it, the more I'm considering predicting him in a five slot Pokemon list instead of Lucario. He has things going against him like Lucario, but things going for him as well. With large requests worldwide (being among the most wanted characters not in Brawl to be in SSB4 in Japan as is Roy), a very popular choice in Melee with the casual community, one of the most popular characters of all-time from the Pokemon series, being the only 1st gen Pokemon to learn a new move in the 5th gen, and now this, we may have somewhat underestimated his chances. Due to recent events, I'm raising his chances to a 50/50.
@Starphoenix (#26145): I think it shows that decisions made outside of Game Freak isn't always at the mercy of Sakurai himself. Sakurai may have also considered an Animal Crossing rep.
Auratic said:
SSBF said earlier that Victini is the favorite character by someone important (the game's creator, I think?).
It's Junichi Masuda, the director of the board for Game Freaks, which is an very important position.
Auratic said:
So on the topic of Mewtwo returning in SSB4, let's imagine for a moment he did come back, but at the cost of taking Lucario's place. It is my understanding that both characters have large fanbases, though Lucario is not only more relevant as well as him being more popular than Mewtwo. So wouldn't Lucario's exclusion lead to even more complaints than Mewtwo's exclusion from Brawl? My sources may be wrong and unfortunately I don't have a link. Anyway, wouldn't Sakurai be more interested in what would please the most people?
Mewtwo is more popular then Lucario. Mewtwo was #2 on the recent IGN poll whereas Lucario was in the early 30s. I don't want Lucario to go, but I'm willing to trade him for a buffed up Mewtwo that never gets cut again. If Zoroark/Victini (although I don't see Victini serving as a replacement for Lucario) replaces Lucario and we get only four slots, there would be a huge outrage even stronger then that of Mewtwo's, but if we get five slots and Mewtwo replaces Lucario (or if we get DLC, Lucario moved to that), I think more fans would be happy with the situation then mad.
Of course it's always possible we get six slots, Mewtwo and Lucario are playable, and we get a 5th gen Pokemon, but I'm only expecting five slots at best.
Opossum said:
Who do you want to see as Assist Trophies?
Rosalina. I think she would fit well as an Assist Trophy.
Opossum said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Vm297GtUfE
One of the worst rosters I've seen in a while. Surprisingly, though, it isn't loaded with 3rd and 4th Party characters...if not just for the 2nd column and the subtraction of someone from the original 12...
I have seen worst. Much, much worse.
Oasis_S said:
I'm sorry, but with a series like Pokemon, where there is always a new flavor of the week JUST AROUND THE CORNER... cutting is inevitable. It happens in, like, EVERY SERIES EVER, so I don't think Smash should be an exception.
Well if they aren't going to bring Mewtwo back, then I want Smash to break this trend
now. No one deserves the axe and cutting should not be a fact of life.
Also, ChronoBound said forty-eight. With that said, here are my suggestions to get it down to forty-eight. Cut the following:
Tingle: A fifth Zelda rep isn't likely and we are almost guarantee a version of child Link in Smash.
Krystal: Star Fox does not need four slots. Three is plenty.
Black Knight: Kind of unlikely. Definitely possible, but not someone to expect to get in.
Mask Man: Earthbound is probably not getting a third rep. Heck, it doesn't even need two.
Shulk: Right now, his chances looks very grim. It'll go up if the game sells well in America and Europe, but right now, I doubt his chances.
Slime and Chocobo: I can see them getting in, but only in a roster of 49 and above, transformation not included.
JavaCroc said:
Watch your language.
And as most have said, the theme wouldn't be so bad if it weren't remixed fifty damn times for each game mode.
How ironic.
Arcadenik said:
Oh! I wish that were true... otherwise we would have had Meowth in Smash by now. That's the only Pokemon I really want so bad. I want my Pikachu vs. Meowth match.
Meowth is pretty much the only semi-realistic good 1st gen choice left. Everyone else that isn't already playable in a Smash installment is highly unlikely at best.
Also, welcome back. Glad to see you again. Also, you said something in regards to "People put in Zoroark just because he's likely." Can you direct me to the quote?
MechaWave said:
What will the next Smash Bros. be called, guys? Place your bets!
Calling it, the subtitle will be Clash.
Johnknight1 said:
Also, can we get a ton of music from Super Mario Galaxy 1 and 2 (plus Sword Skyward), including the Bowser fight themes? Imagine fighting epicly to this!!!! Or perhaps fighting to the death to this?
That would be epic to the 9,001st degree!!!!
Oh yes, this is filled with epicness. Those games had amazing music
Johnknight1 said:
The SSE was somewhat memorable, but not very. And dang it, ADD DIALOGUE!
Yes, dialogue is a must. I'm not the only one who agrees that a lack of dialogue was disappointing.
Johnknight1 said:
Lucario IMO should stay to represent the current gen, while Jiggz, Pikachu, the PT, and *hopefully* Mewtwo return to represent the original Pokémon (it's only fair the original and most popular get the most representation, at least in my opinion). Then add a 5th gen Pokémon, and maybe consider a few 2nd and 3rd Pokémon. (Deoxys would be awesome! I also kinda like the Plusle and Minun idea)
A roster like this would make any Pokemon fan happy:
- Pikachu
- Jigglypuff
- Red
- Mewtwo
- Lucario
- Zoroark/Victini/Genesect/Meloetta
If the game for some reason gets 50-55 slots, then the franchise definitively earns six slots. Give it a seventh one if we get 55-60 slots. I think most Pokemon fans can agree that a franchise with so many potential candidates earns at least five slots.
Starphoenix said:
Not much, just racism and sexuality preference.
And universal roster, and ChronoBound's/Arcadenik's return, and information in regards to what Japanese want and more. But those moments were surely a terrible time to be part of this thread.