New Smash Bros for WiiU

[Holder of the Heel]

But seriously, Ubisoft is really cranking it out for the Wii U...

I was thinking the same thing. They have a bunch of teams working on Wii U projects, it is almost hard to believe. Really exciting though.


And I freaking love Portal!

[COLLAPSE="Wheatley anyone? :D"]

Now, you've been under for quite a lot longer, and it's *not* out of the question that you might have a *very* minor case of serious brain damage!
[/COLLAPSE]

Still feel like I am going to end up buying so many games for the Wii U... my parents are going to get sick of hearing me beg to them.

 

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Ah good to hear even if it's a rumor.

This is also the first time Augusto has posted news that wasn't posted earlier in the day.

 

[vicgur]

The new button has some link to the Wii Vitality Sensor

Wii Vitality Sensor
Wii Vitality Sensor
Wii Vitality Sensor

That rumor's fake, and you can't convince me it's not.

 

[Holder of the Heel]

This is also the first time Augusto has posted news that wasn't posted earlier in the day.

LOL!!

Sorry, I couldn't help but laugh at that. So good Triple Dash.

Edit: What's wrong with the vitality sensor? Am I missing something?

 

[Johnknight1]

LOL Triple Dash. You're such a meanie...

i believe the Nintendo Network was made by EA... which means you might need Origins... it's not a deal breaker per sie, but that's not a good thing...

That is unless you don't want EA, as a friend of mine so lovingly puts it, "knowing how much porn you have [on your hard drive]." Seriously, the Origins network spies on you like that. It searches your hard drive for everything.

I doubt Nintendo would let EA go that far with their online. The only thing Nintendo probably wants to know is what games you like so they can pitch some games to you.

That is where I think Valve/Apple could come in. Both have great systems for advertising similar products as to what you own.

Although Nintendo is fairly good at this, too I suppose... just not digitally.

 

[augustoflores]

oh trip, you sassy guy... i have done some news that i said first before, it's just recently where i've been out of the loop in time because i wasn't here often

 

[vicgur]

What's wrong with the vitality sensor? Am I missing something?

Nothing wrong with it. It's just surprising to see it back after being pushed under the carpet by Nintendo.

[but I'm very interested to see it in the hands of a competent company]

 

[augustoflores]

vicgur... why is mario attacking kirby with a sword?
i was looking at that dev gallery.

 

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oh trip, you sassy guy... i have done some news that i said first before, it's just recently where i've been out of the loop in time because i wasn't here often

Sorry, I couldn't resist.

 

[vicgur]

vicgur... why is mario attacking kirby with a sword?
i was looking at that dev gallery.

Well, it's a tribute to The Clash's London Calling cover, which is my favorite album cover od all times.
[COLLAPSE="London Calling"]

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He is attacking Kirby with a beam sword. Pretty normal sight in Smash Bros, I'd say.

 

[Guybrush20X6]

i believe the Nintendo Network was made by EA... which means you might need Origins... it's not a deal breaker per sie, but that's not a good thing...

I don't think Nintendo will do a Online only DRM thing as the "internet impared" are one of thier major customer bases. Still worried for data harvasting though.

 

[Johnknight1]

I learned a few things from this new development/story/recent events involving Nintendo (and the Wii U):
1. Nintendo is definitely partnering with Valve on some stuff.
2. EA likes Nintendo's new direction.
3. Ubisoft thinks it can build off it's success on the Wii with the Wii U.
4. Nintendo's Press Conference is going to be more 3rd party-centered than previous ones (and with less garbage games displayed).
5. Nintendo's Press Conference is going to have more diverse titles. Action games, fighting games (I smell Street Fighter X Tekken), FPS', adventure games, platform games (Sonic 4 Episode 2?), stealth games, sports games, RPGs (Draogn Quest X Online?), sandbox games (GTAV??? Probably not... yet), rail shooters, and more.
6. There are going to be less and less 3rd party games that only come out only on the PS3 and Xbox 360.
7. The next Counter-Strike may come out on the Wii U.
8. The Wii U's processing is definitely next generation worthy.
9. Nintendo is very serious about it's online, especially with the added achievement system.
10. Nintendo is still very mysterious with the Wii U.
11. The Wii U is going to have some secrets "hidden" even after E3 and the console's launch.
12. Nintendo probably has got some big plans for the 3DS it's saving on the back burner.
13. The Wii U is probably going to have some uber cool connection thing with the 3DS Nintendo is gonna save as an ace up the sleeve (or at least a Jack).
14. The next Mario game on the Wii U is probably going to be very interesting.
15. Smash is probably going to be showcased later in E3, if even at all.
16. I got a feeling Madden 13 and/or NCAA Football 13 is going to be showcased at Nintendo's Press Conference (for the Wii U).
17. Triple Dash has some ~sassy~ ~sass~ for his ~sassing~ ~sasses~ .

 

[augustoflores]

you know what would be cool? using the 3DS+slide pad combo like a second controller for the wii u... or even 3rd or 4th!

 

[Holder of the Heel]

That aptly shows how Nintendo is going to kick some major *** and take (third party) names. Soon all of the things Sony and Microsoft fanboys hate on Nintendo for will soon go away. Then they will weigh and measure their own systems and they will be found... wanting.

Then they will either convert to Nintendoism or perish in the holy name of Miyamoto.

Welcome to the new world.

 

[Johnknight1]

@ august
Hey, I was gonna write something about that. But for realZs, Nintendo has already done something like that with the GBA and the GBA-GameCube link. I see no reason a wireless connection like that won't work as a controller.

I wonder if such a thing could be a controller option for smash Wii U... or would allow someone with Smash 3DS to fight someone with Smash Wii U.

Perhaps the control options for Smash Wii U will be the Wiimote plus Nunchuck, the Wiimote sideways, the Classic Controller, the Wii U iPad, the GameCube controller (via the Wiimote's plug for the lulz), a new traditional controller, and a 3DS. That's 7 control options!!! All we'd be missing is a N64 controller through the Wiimote's plug as an option!

@ Holder
This may actually make Nintendo less unique. Hopefully such a thing will cause fanboyism to further decay and eventually largely die off. I hate (all) fanboys and fanboyism.

 

[Holder of the Heel]

Nintendo's unique factor does not arise out of the lack of third parties that go its way nor its poor online. So don't worry about that.

 

[Metal Overlord]

Customizable Wii U UI? Hell yeah

 

[Johnknight1]

If this is the kind of 3rd party support Nintendo can get, surely the Wii U will only gain 3rd party support over time. With a great online interface, there is no reason for the Wii U not to get the same games as the Xbox 360, PS3, and the successor consoles to both of those consoles.

If Nintendo had the same amount of 3rd party support as the Xbox 360 or PS3 with the Wii, the Wii would have outsold the Xbox 360 and PS3 combined and doubled, even with it's lack of a hard drive, nearly non-existent online, lack of customizable features, and 6th Generation of Gaming graphics.

Edit: Nintendo also needs more games aimed at (traditional) Western gamers.

 

[Yomi's Biggest Fan]

It's nice to hear that the king of the gaming industry is going to reclaim its throne by rising above its rivals.

Mah body is so ready for E3!

 

[Holder of the Heel]

Yep, and now with excellent graphics (I don't care if the future future generation will surpass the Wii U, it is now capable of handling high end games, that is all that matters) there is nothing to complain about.

I'm really expecting a lot out of this "Nintendo Network" that has been spoken of before. I mean, the online is going to improve, but by how much, and in what ways? Please handle this aspect smartly Nintendo, PLEASE.

 

[Johnknight1]

Nintendo already made a crap ton of money off the Wii and sold the most units of that (and probably made the most money).

The same is true (to a much, much, much, much greater extent) with the DS.

Now all they need to do is catch up with Sony and Microsoft with graphics (they surpassed the PS3 and Xbox 360 easily already probably), hard drive (probably done), processor (this confirms that the Wii U processor is amazingly strong), online (if EA/Valve is helping, that is most likely good), 3rd party games (looks good for 2012 and early 2013), 3rd party content (the future looks bright) without losing Nintendo's strengths of great 1st/2nd party games, awesome motion controls, and having Dragon Quest/Square Enix in their back pocket (if the Wii gets FFXV, I'll lulz), Nintendo will dominate this generation.

 

[FlareHabanero]

We've already experienced Nintendo Network with Mario Kart 7 and Kid Icarus: Uprising. From what I can tell it simply an improved Nintendo Wi-fi connection. Not to mention it can preform patching, which alone is a huge step in the right direction.

 

[Metal Overlord]

I always have 100% faith in Nintendo in almost anything, and yes that includes Wii U's online system

I bet they'll make Nintendo Network at least as good if not better than the PlayStation Network

 

[Johnknight1]

As long as it has the user friendly experience of Xbox Live (without the new rip off price that Xbox Live has) and Smash Wii U and 3DS have good online with minimal lag, loads of features, and downloadable stuff (like the pictures, stages, and replays) that don't automatically get deleted (I HATED THAT! THOSE MAPS WERE GOOD!), I will be satisfied.

 

[Yomi's Biggest Fan]

Edit: Nintendo also needs more games aimed at (traditional) Western gamers.

Don't we got Metroid, F-Zero, & Legend of Zelda for that?

 

[augustoflores]

the main problem with 3rd parties trying for all three major consoles was that they literally had to remake every asset from scratch to make it look the same on the wii... unless they started with the wii's graphical limitations from the start. (shovelware)

now that next gen is here, it will be reversed... Beyond Good and Evil 2 has said it will only be on next gen consoles... that means it will only be for the wii U... no 360 and ps3

 

[Johnknight1]

@ ROB
For whatever reason, Metroid hasn't "grasped" Western (or Eastern) audiences particularly well. Probably the lack of good online multiplayer is the reason. Metroid with a good online multiplayer would simply captivate gamers. If let's say the next Metroid uses the same gameplay system as Prime 1-3, lives up to that legacy of great single-player, and has Halo level of quality online, it will sell with proper hype.

F-Zero... it would sell to racing fans with great online. The same with Star Fox and flying/rail shooting fans.

Really, the key is online multiplayer games to attract Western gamers. Have that, and you will make a lot more money.

That and a few Western RPGs (think Skyrim, or perhaps even Kingdom Hearts). If the Wii U got say a sequel to Xenoblade Chronicles and hyped it up like Kingdom Hearts (and the game was great like Xenoblade Chronicles), it would sell internationally.

Also, release more DKC (esk) Donkey Kong titles, and let Mario, Zelda, and Pokémon be what they have always been: excellent, revolutionary, and above all, their own franchises.

 

[vicgur]

As long as it has the user friendly experience of Xbox Live (without the new rip off price that Xbox Live has) and Smash Wii U and 3DS have good online with minimal lag, loads of features, and downloadable stuff (like the pictures, stages, and replays) that don't automatically get deleted (I HATED THAT! THOSE MAPS WERE GOOD!), I will be satisfied.

Smash Bros could have an online interface like LittleBigPlanet...
You check out other people's profiles, and it shows a list of replays, snapshots and stages so you can download, comment and "like".
Kinda like a social network, but with Smash Bros stuff.
I hope you get my point, I don't know how to make myself clearer...

 

[augustoflores]

Smash Bros could have an online interface like LittleBigPlanet...
You check out other people's profiles, and it shows a list of replays, snapshots and stages so you can download, comment and "like".
Kinda like a social network, but with Smash Bros stuff.
I hope you get my point, I don't know how to make myself clearer...

so much win... I WANT THIS!!!!!!
it will truly be a smash bros community within smash bros!!!

 

[FlareHabanero]

Regional appeal for games won't influence how Nintendo will do in the market. People could care less if the game was made in Japan or America, as long as it's... well fun.

 

[Johnknight1]

I get what you mean vicgur. I love LittleBigPlanet.

Brawl's online interaction was fine, although what you mentioned could definitely be further added. It just needs more modes, probably some patches for various issues (frame rate loss, super broken stuff [think Meta Knight's infinite down B glitch], freezes, and worthlessly weak stuff [lol Link]), and perhaps DLC and more mod-friendly content. also, no friends codes.

Pretty much take Brawl's online, murder the lag, murder the lag again, take some ideas from LittleBigPlanet, copy and paste any Valve game's online (including the modder-friendly environment; perhaps even have different servers=??? maybe even let modders have their own servers=??? Nah, I'm getting ahead of myself), and you get a great online smash bros experience. One that many of us would lose our souls to!

 

[Yomi's Biggest Fan]

Smash Bros could have an online interface like LittleBigPlanet...
You check out other people's profiles, and it shows a list of replays, snapshots and stages so you can download, comment and "like".
Kinda like a social network, but with Smash Bros stuff.
I hope you get my point, I don't know how to make myself clearer...

I get you since I own all LittleBigPlanet games.

Something like that would be very interesting to have. A social community in a fighting game is a unique idea.

 

[Baskerville]

Online Changes I'd love to see:
Single Normal & Ranked Battles
Team Normal & Ranked Battles
Rules can be changed by host
Lobbies up to 8 people
Replay Mode will allow you to upload videos on youtube and share with friends
Custom Stages can be played online with friends
Bet coins, trophies and stickers in Spectator Mode
Tournament Mode is online only up to 8 people
Leaderboards
Given the option to rematch players after a match
Set number of matches and sets

This was posted AGES ago, just thought I brought it up.

 

[RomanceDawn]

Brawls online interaction was terrible. Everything about it was unnecessarily difficult. Remember how we communicated? We changed our user names to send messages while on the character select screen. Either that or change your big message next to your avatar. So lame trying to hold conversations through that.

We need full on user profiles with stats that we can either show or hide, able to have cross game chat, invite people while they are in other games and video/voice chat. All of which I am certain will be happening. Friend codes don't exist on the Wii U so that will only be an issue with the 3DS. Even then it's so much better having only one friend code and we can see who is playing what with the option to join them directly with newer multiplayer games.

Ranked 1vs1, Free for All and Team battles would be nice, as well as none ranked.

And of course communities where only a select group of people have access will always be welcomed.

As far as lag is concerned aside from the system just being better equipped at handling online, if we can have a physical connection to online instead of just wi fi that would do a lot as far as lag is concerned. Though I know i'll just use Wi Fi myself, a hard line is always 100% better for lag issues.

 

[Metal Overlord]

For spectator mode, I'd like to see something like this adapted for Smash 4:

http://mortalkombat.wikia.com/wiki/King_of_the_Hill

And of course, voice chat

 

[Mypantisgone]

Sakurai should train himself on the new "train your balance" minigame.

 

[Johnknight1]

Well if you add usernames (like an Xbox Live, PSN, or Steam), add voice chat (and an easy to access mute button), add online with minimal lag (like Counter-Strike), add some user-friendly community for the online (like LittleBigPlanet), add several modes (like Halo), add a mod-friendly environment (like Doom), and possibly add different user-run/hosted servers (like Team Fortress 2), and we've got an excellent Wii U smash bros online experience.

Even if the game is pure garbage and we got all that, we could just mod the game to be it's own (quality) smash bros game, or make it like Smash 64, Melee, or Brawl with more characters, items, stages, content, and custom features to abuse!

 

[FlareHabanero]

I highly doubt Sakurai and his rag tag team of developers would make the game garbage. Unless you're one of those people that complain about the most idiotic things, like Olimar having 3 pixels less on his nose or something.

 

[Johnknight1]

I doubt Smash Wii U (or Smash 3DS for that matter) will be anything but amazing.

I'm just saying us smash bros. fans are always resourceful with all of our hacking and modding ability thanks to the Wii and Wii U being very hackable and easy to mod! Of course, the reports that the Wii U will be easier to mod and more mod-friendly is a good thing, too

Pretty much us smashers are hoping for the best, but we are also prepared for the worst!

In other words, the worst case scenario actually isn't that bad. We can make a bad game into a good one. We can also make an incredible game into a more incredible game.

 

[augustoflores]

what!!? easier to mod/mod-friendly? link me!!