New Smash Bros for WiiU

[Oasis_S]

as a minor side note, does ANY major developer use wired controllers anymore?(besides fight sticks,anyway)

.......yeah.

this was ineviteble. just adapt,and stop whining.

Playing homosexual advocate here, but you pointed out yourself that the other two companies SUPPORT wired controllers. But it looks like the Wii U has USB ports in the front, so that could probably be used for wired controllers.

 

[Wizzrobe]

Are we able to use more than 1 Tablet on a Wii U? cause if we can't then that will be a problem for tournaments unless they make GC controllers compatible.

 

[Metal Overlord]

Yeah Wizzy, you just can't buy them seperate

You have to bring your own tablet controller and sync it with the Wii U (like with the Wii)

 

[Johnknight1]

How is 64's better, Assault had a better landmaster and way better on foot. Way more maps, tons of guns for on foot and more unlockables.

Also, some of the Wii U's 3rd party games are Tekken, Assassins Creed, Ghost Recon, Ninja Gaiden, Metro, Batman Arkham City, black ops 2 maybe, and more.

64 was more fun to play as. Playing on foot was garbage, the character "rankings" was crap (seriously, all characters should be equal), the guns were dumb, and the Landmaster was meah. The 64 multiplayer was much simpler, and I thought it was designed better because the game was better. Plus I didn't like Assault's maps.

Meah, as long as they aren't as bad as Wii-ports and they have good controls, graphics, and online. Also, the Wii U should totally try to get GTA V. That is all!

 

[Deleted member]

Which is kind of stupid. What if your Tablet breaks? Are you just SOL?

I had a Wiimote stop working and had to get a new one, so I'm not too sure not being able to buy a Tablet is such a good idea...

 

[Johnknight1]

@ Green Knight
No problem bro. The award and accolades were well deserved.

@John: To be fair, Snake got in because of his creator. As much as I would rather see Pac-Man than Mega Man (sorry, Mega Man fans), he's not getting in unless Miyamoto demands it or Pac-Man's creator or company show interest.

Or if Sakurai really likes the idea of Pac-Man in. Or if Namco approaches Nintendo and Sakurai, and they agree to add him (in exchange for... I dunno).

@Johnny Bravo- Didn't like half of Infinity Ward leave after Bobby fired the creative directors of Infinity Ward? I guess that's why they needed 3 different developers to work on MW3 (and that still sucked donkey balls LOLOLOLOLOLO)

Honestly, I thought MW2 sucked balls. At this point in time when we have a new Call of Duty game a year, it's just milking out the same game for $65 plus $65 in DLC.

 

[Oasis_S]

Which is kind of stupid. What if your Tablet breaks? Are you just SOL?

I had a Wiimote stop working and had to get a new one, so I'm not too sure not being able to buy a Tablet is such a good idea...

If you can't buy them separately, which you probably will, then I'd imagine they'd allow you to send them in for repair, free of charge.

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

Which is kind of stupid. What if your Tablet breaks? Are you just SOL?

Send 'em in. Kind of cruel, but it's probably because they can't produce them heavily without charging us around 80 dollars. Sending it in costs less to us. Even though it takes longer.

I had a Wiimote stop working and had to get a new one, so I'm not too sure not being able to buy a Tablet is such a good idea...

Refer to my other part. I think it's dumb, but I can see the reasons.

 

[Wizzrobe]

Yeah Wizzy, you just can't buy them seperate

You have to bring your own tablet controller and sync it with the Wii U (like with the Wii)

If Wii U tablets aren't sold in stores than that's stupid. What if someone's tablet got broken or something? Obviously they will probably do something about this problem though.

64 was more fun to play as. Playing on foot was garbage, the character "rankings" was crap (seriously, all characters should be equal), the guns were dumb, and the Landmaster was meah. The 64 multiplayer was much simpler, and I thought it was designed better because the game was better. Plus I didn't like Assault's maps.

Meah, as long as they aren't as bad as Wii-ports and they have good controls, graphics, and online. Also, the Wii U should totally try to get GTA V. That is all!

Assault had much more variety at least, and it wasn't that complex at all really.

 

[lordvaati]

@ lordvatti
No, not really. It's called a mouse. Also, the Xbox 360 controller and PS3 controller have wires that connect to the console to charge the controller's batteries.

Also, Nintendo's wireless network is garbage. Connections for tournaments would easily get mixed up if Brawl was only playable on the Wiimote. The 360 and PS3 controllers don't have that issues. That is the biggest concern. Also, the Wiimote is garbage for Smash. Don't bull crap me about it. The Classic Controller is okay, but the control sticks (for using as a C-stick) suck for Smash. Also, the button placement isn't as good as the N64 controller or Gamecube controller for Smash on the Classic Controller.

and I can understand that-that's why they had multiple control styles. what I don't like is people acting like them discontinuing a 10 year old controller was the most shocking thing in the world,even moreso since little to no one has actually played with a Wii-U controller and they automatically assume it wll be crap.

and by that definition, since this gen ismoving more and more towards wireless connections, shouldn't you instead be asking for better wirelessi nterface on the Wii-U(another thing people don't know about) instead of asking them to shoehorn a controller port on it? aand lastly,the issue why Brawl played mediocre was becausse the button format was still the same as Melee's-for all we know,the button format will be changed for Smash 4(even more so because of the 3DS version).

 

[Deleted member]

I see. @Oasis and Hyper

@John: True, but remember that Sonic barely squeaked in. I bet if Sakurai had his way, Snake would be the only 3rd Party.

 

[Johnknight1]

and I can understand that-that's why they had multiple control styles. what I don't like is people acting like them discontinuing a 10 year old controller was the most shocking thing in the world,even moreso since little to no one has actually played with a Wii-U controller and they automatically assume it wll be crap.

No, it's because the Gamecube controller hasn't had a traditional controller successor. Sorry, but the Classic Controller is simply for Classic games.

and by that definition, since this gen ismoving more and more towards wireless connections, shouldn't you instead be asking for better wirelessi nterface on the Wii-U(another thing people don't know about) instead of asking them to shoehorn a controller port on it? aand lastly,the issue why Brawl played mediocre was becausse the button format was still the same as Melee's-for all we know,the button format will be changed for Smash 4(even more so because of the 3DS version).

Wireless controllers with wires for battery charging, which saves us money on batteries.

Also, I am asking for better online, as well as wires (to charge and play as an option).

 

[Wizzrobe]

No, it's because the Gamecube controller hasn't had a traditional controller successor. Sorry, but the Classic Controller is simply for Classic games.


Wireless controllers with wires for battery charging, which saves us money on batteries.

Also, I am asking for better online, as well as wires (to charge and play as an option).

All I want is to be able to use the GC controller

 

[Johnknight1]

@ Wizz the Robe
I just didn't like the gameplay of Assualt, which is why I didn't like the multiplayer. Plus it felt too force IMO.

@John: True, but remember that Sonic barely squeaked in. I bet if Sakurai had his way, Snake would be the only 3rd Party.

I actually think Sakurai is a big Sonic fan. Still, if Sakurai likes Pac-Man and wants him in Smash, there's no way I can see Namco turning it down, especially since Pac-Man has been in 3 Nintendo-produced games before.

 

[Deleted member]

There's also Miyamoto to consider.
Didn't he state that Pac-Man was one of his inspirations and didn't he produce Pac-Man Vs.?

And usually, what Miyamoto wants, Miyamoto gets. If Miyamoto fancies the idea of Pac-Man in Smash, Sakurai will have to add him, lest he incur the wrath of Miyamoto.

 

[Metal Overlord]

@Johnny Boy- MW1 was the best. I thought of MW2 online is kinda fun in a casual way, because of how glitchy and unbalanced that **** is. If you take it seriously, though, then I agree, it's horrible

Here's the link for Wii U controllers not being sold seperately just so y'all know I'm not bull****ting

Maybe they changed their minds about it though since they said that almost a year ago, but I remember them saying something else about "not wanting to make consumers spend $100 on more Wii U accessories" or something like that

 

[Lucidthought]

Pac-Man would be a pretty stupid choice for Smash, to be honest.

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

Didn't Sakurai say he might do more than one 3rd party? In fact, he may have chosen Simon Belmont if Sonic wasn't an easy game seller.

I mean, less royalties since he's already friends with Kojima, right?

 

[Metal Overlord]

He's still better than Goku

 

[Wizzrobe]

Guys, I looked at a Wii U article and it's not that you can't buy tablets seperately, it's that the Wii U system actually only supports one Wii U tablet per console. You can't use 2 or more unfortunately.

 

[Deleted member]

Didn't Sakurai say he might do more than one 3rd party? In fact, he may have chosen Simon Belmont if Sonic wasn't an easy game seller.

I mean, less royalties since he's already friends with Kojima, right?

Kojima has nothing to do with Castlevania. He's just the Metal Gear guy.
So Gray Fox for Smash 4.

 

[Lucidthought]

He's still better than Goku

...No. He isn't

 

[Johnknight1]

There's also Miyamoto to consider.
Didn't he state that Pac-Man was one of his inspirations and didn't he produce Pac-Man Vs.?

And usually, what Miyamoto wants, Miyamoto gets. If Miyamoto fancies the idea of Pac-Man in Smash, Sakurai will have to add him, lest he incur the wrath of Miyamoto.

Yeah, he made Pac-Man Vs. The voice actor of Mario/Luigi/Wario/Waluigi also was the announcer. Not to mention Pac-Man was in the 2 Mario Kart Arcade games.

Also, Kojima made the most recent Castlevania game.

Mewtwo should be as heavy as Wario. At least, that's how I see Mewtwo's weight going.

I agree, and I'm willing to take it further. I think Mewtwo (compared to all SSB playable characters) should be heavier than everyone except Bowser and maybe Ganondorf.

It is pretty messed up with certain characters. For example, Yoshi is never classified as heavy in the Mario spin-offs; his heaviest position has been middleweight.

Well Yoshi does carry around two people on his back, so I imagine he has a lot of weight. Plus he is pretty tall. I don't really have problems with Yoshi's weight, only characters like Snake and Charizard (who should be much shorter).

 

[Oasis_S]

Well Kojima is spelled similar enough to Konami.

Also it's not like Sakurai can't tell Miyamoto "No."

I think I'll go with Godzilla VS Megaguirus.

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

Kojima has nothing to do with Castlevania. He's just the Metal Gear guy.
So Gray Fox for Smash 4.

Well, he's the main guy at Konami, so Kojima would have enough influence to help allow it. But touche. Same royalties, but easier.

Wizzrobe, show the article.

 

[lordvaati]

@Johnny Boy- MW1 was the best. I thought of MW2 online is kinda fun in a casual way, because of how glitchy and unbalanced that **** is. If you take it seriously, though, then I agree, it's horrible

Here's the link for Wii U controllers not being sold seperately just so y'all know I'm not bull****ting

Maybe they changed their minds about it though since they said that almost a year ago, but I remember them saying something else about "not wanting to make consumers spend $100 on more Wii U accessories" or something like that

this also could be the reason why they didn't revealthe official price yet-because they are trying to program multiple tablets.

and the castlevania guy is Igarashi.and since he was at the anniversary of NP, he's just as close with nintendo as Kojima.

 

[Johnknight1]

If they keep delaying the Wii U to produce more tablets, that is cool by me. As long as Nintendo plans to produce more Wii U Tablets (and other types of controllers) soon after the release for sale, it's all cool by me.

 

[TheFirstPoppyBro]

...No. He isn't

Yes, he is. Because unlike Goku, Pac-Man actually has a decent shot.

 

[Johnknight1]

By the way, I am pretty much the Proto Man of this thread!

*insert yellow scarf here*

 

[Wizzrobe]

Well, he's the main guy at Konami, so Kojima would have enough influence to help allow it. But touche. Same royalties, but easier.

Wizzrobe, show the article.

Looks like both problems are present, Tablets not being sold seperately and only 1 tablet per Wii U.

http://www.destructoid.com/e3-implications-of-wii-u-s-single-tablet-support-203199.phtml

 

[Metal Overlord]

Wizzy, you got it all wrong, my man

Wii U can support more than one tablet

And the controllers won't be sold seperately

And c'mon now, if you want a Dragonball character (which ain't happenin), Lucid, you gotta at least go with my man Piccolo or Vegeta or Future Trunks or Future Gohan. Or Imperfect Cell. Or Meta Cooler. Or Tien. Not ****ing Goku, unless we're talking about Kid Goku

 

[smashbot226]

Looks like both problems are present, Tablets not being sold seperately and only 1 tablet per Wii U.

http://www.destructoid.com/e3-implications-of-wii-u-s-single-tablet-support-203199.phtml

Now see, I would have believed you further until I saw you posted a Destructoid link. They are about as unbiased and reliable as Kotaku.

 

[Deleted member]

No love for Hercule, Metal?
He DID save the world.

 

[Big-Cat]

and I can understand that-that's why they had multiple control styles. what I don't like is people acting like them discontinuing a 10 year old controller was the most shocking thing in the world,even moreso since little to no one has actually played with a Wii-U controller and they automatically assume it wll be crap.

and by that definition, since this gen ismoving more and more towards wireless connections, shouldn't you instead be asking for better wirelessi nterface on the Wii-U(another thing people don't know about) instead of asking them to shoehorn a controller port on it? aand lastly,the issue why Brawl played mediocre was becausse the button format was still the same as Melee's-for all we know,the button format will be changed for Smash 4(even more so because of the 3DS version).

Like you, I never understood people getting their panties up in a bunch because support for the GC Controller is being continued. I'd like wireless connections to be improved better, but for my fighting games, and as a cheaper option, I'd like to have a wired option available.

And since you brought up the 3DS Smash, I wonder if C-Stick support will finally die out because a peripheral would be required to play Smash on the 3DS.

 

[Metal Overlord]

Hercule's fro power level is too big for Smash

 

[Johnknight1]

Hercules saved the world Golden, but I saved the Smash World!!!

 

[Deleted member]

So wait, if Lords of Shadow is to be a reboot of the Castlevania series, does that now make Simon Belmont non-canon?

EDIT: "In serial fiction, to reboot means to discard much or even all previous continuity in the series and start anew with fresh ideas."

 

[smashbot226]

I find all this talk about anime reps hilarious. It will not happen, ever. The three primary prerequisites for an appearance in any Smash Bros game are the following (Sakurai said those words himself, and I would find the article for it if I could.)

1. Character had to originate from a video game.

2. Character had to have appeared on a Nintendo console at least once.

3. Character cannot have originated from anime/manga/etc.

 

[Wizzrobe]

Hercule's fro power level is too big for Smash

Looks like your right about the Wii U thing Metal.

And just look at Falcon, his power level is too big and he's in Smash.

 

[Johnknight1]

@ Golden
No, now there are 2 canons.

(just like how the Zelda franchise has 3 canons via the timeline)