New Smash Bros for WiiU

[Wizzrobe]

Perhaps your right. Everything doesn't have to be 100% canon in Smash. I'd would prefer him over Andrew.

LOl, Andrew Oikonny would be funny to see. I honestly would love to see any new Starfox characters.

 

[~ Valkyrie ~]

M & S Guy: Check page 6431 for dem ideas.

 

[Metal Overlord]

F-Zero James McCloud 4 Smash

He doesn't even have to be an F-Zero rep, he can be a Galaxy Dog rep

 

[Arcadenik]

Looking at Shortie's poll results and ignoring all the characters who didn't get 100 votes or more as of April 6, 2012.

[COLLAPSE="Poll Results"]
Mario series
1. Toad - 283
2. Bowser Jr. - 206
3. Paper Mario - 150
4. Geno - 149
5. Waluigi - 140
6. Rosalina - 107

Donkey Kong series
1. King K. Rool - 359
2. Dixie Kong - 263

Zelda series
1. Ghirahim - 169
2. Impa - 153
3. Midna - 103

Metroid series
1. Ridley - 346

Kirby series
1. Waddle Dee - 194

Star Fox series
1. Krystal - 325

Pokemon series
1. Zoroark - 180
2. Meowth - 157
3. Victini - 151
4. Plusle & Minun - 141

F-Zero series
1. Samurai Goroh - 214
2. Black Shadow - 151

Mother series
1. Masked Man - 127

Fire Emblem series
1. Caeda - 171
2. Lyn - 144
3. Micaiah - 104
4. Krom - 103

Kid Icarus series
1. Medusa - 260
2. Palutena - 238

Wario series
1. Ashley - 183
2. Captain Syrup - 163
3. Mona - 115

Miscellaneous Nintendo series
1. Isaac - 300
2. Little Mac - 295
3. Saki - 182
4. Takamaru - 156
5. Lip - 150
6. Shulk - 149
7. Mii - 144
8. Starfy - 140
9. Ray MK - 118
10. Tom Nook - 113

Third Party series
1. Mega Man - 285
2. Banjo-Kazooie -132
3. Bomberman - 119
4. Pac-Man - 102
4. Professor Layton - 102[/COLLAPSE]

 

[Yomi's Biggest Fan]

Looking at Shortie's poll results and ignoring all the characters who didn't get 100 votes or more as of April 6, 2012.

[COLLAPSE="Poll Results"]
Mario series
1. Toad - 283
2. Bowser Jr. - 206
3. Paper Mario - 150
4. Geno - 149
5. Waluigi - 140
6. Rosalina - 107

Donkey Kong series
1. King K. Rool - 359
2. Dixie Kong - 263

Zelda series
1. Ghirahim - 169
2. Impa - 153
3. Midna - 103

Metroid series
1. Ridley - 346

Kirby series
1. Waddle Dee - 194

Star Fox series
1. Krystal - 325

Pokemon series
1. Zoroark - 180
2. Meowth - 157
3. Victini - 151
4. Plusle & Minun - 141

F-Zero series
1. Samurai Goroh - 214
2. Black Shadow - 151

Mother series
1. Masked Man - 127

Fire Emblem series
1. Caeda - 171
2. Lyn - 144
3. Micaiah - 104
4. Krom - 103

Kid Icarus series
1. Medusa - 260
2. Palutena - 238

Wario series
1. Ashley - 183
2. Captain Syrup - 163
3. Mona - 115

Miscellaneous Nintendo series
1. Isaac - 300
2. Little Mac - 295
3. Saki - 182
4. Takamaru - 156
5. Lip - 150
6. Shulk - 149
7. Mii - 144
8. Starfy - 140
9. Ray MK - 118
10. Tom Nook - 113

Third Party series
1. Mega Man - 285
2. Banjo-Kazooie -132
3. Bomberman - 119
4. Pac-Man - 102
4. Professor Layton - 102[/COLLAPSE]

People wants the least important Wario character over the two more important Wario characters. Lolwat

 

[Johnknight1]

To satisfy your wish, you killed the professor.
[COLLAPSE="R.I.P"]

[/COLLAPSE]

Replace Porky with a new Pokémon or minor franchise character. Then you can take my money and have your way with me.

Still, 60 characters is A LOT!

Shut, up. Sega is staying Sega seperate.

I didn't know you have a magical crystal ball...

[COLLAPSE="Here is the Roster:"]

[/COLLAPSE]

Switch Krystal with Dixie Kong, eliminate Magnus, Saki, and Shulk for the Pokémon Trainer.

[COLLAPSE="Click Here for the Roster:"]

[/COLLAPSE]Fixed up Iblis's poor organization Skills.

Holy crap Metal! DAT ROSTAH!!! My only complaint is there is nothing written as to where to leave my money!

 

[Jakor]

Were all of these rosters made with my Maker? If so, I really need to hurry up and upload my new, superior version as fast as possible.

 

[RomanceDawn]

Were all of these rosters made with my Maker? If so, I really need to hurry up and upload my new, superior version as fast as possible.

I love this program thanks! Made 3 or 4 already.

 

[Metal Overlord]

I'm just gonna admit it: Zoroark's REALLY growing on me as a playable character. It's probably because of my love for Shang Tsung, but I've gone from not giving a **** about him to actually semi-supporting him as a playable Pokemanz. Also, if he and Mewtwo both make it in while Lucario stays, they'd form a Fighting-type (Lucario), Psychic-type (Mewtwo), and Dark-type (Zoroark) trilogy

If there are 6-player modes this time, then Mewtwo/Lucario/Zoroark vs Roy/Ike/Krom would be badass

Don't worry, though, asage, Victini would be cool, too. Dat pyrokinesis

Oh, and Deoxys would make for a perfect DLC character

 

[Shorts]

Prelude~

Bowser and Ganondorf have publicly joined forces, becoming a strong political power, and a threat to all the peace across Nintendoland (Whatever the SSE place is called). So, Peach, had created an elite force of warriors who’s mission is to keep the peace she and other political figures have worked so hard to maintain. The group is known as the smash brothers. Recently, the devilsh duo and Peach have been clashing more often, and even more heatedly than before, so, in order to stay away from a great Nintendo war, the three decided to hold a tournament. Anyone can enter, and the winner, will be the new rulers of Nintendoland. Peach thinks, her small fellowship of Smash brotheren, and the location of all their bases throughout the land is all top secret, but it’s quite the opposite, unknown to her, the devish duo have managed to have a mole burrow deep into the confines of the Smash brothers. The story starts off with the sixteen contestants of the tournament walking onto the battlefield, and each taking a seat on the floor of the ring. Koopa, Toads, Kokiris, Dees, and mny various Nintendo characters fill the stage.

Evil group: Bowser, Ganon

Smash Brotheren: Peach, Mario, Kirby



Chaptor One:
The randomizer spins rapidly as the contestants wait on the edge of their seat to see who the first matchup will be. Contestant one is finally picked, and Mario’s face shows up on screen. The screen pans over to Mario, Kirby, and Peach. Peach pats his back, and Kirby gives him a high five as he enters the ring. The second randomizer finally stops flickering random faces and shows Wario’s grotesque face. Wario lets out an “Oh yeah!” and in the stands above him, you can see Waluigi, Jummy T, and Mona hollering for him. You can only be Mario

Chaptor Two:
Mario defeats Wario, despite being outmuscled. Angered, Wario hops on his bike, and begins to drive away, with his friends following suit. They’re laughing about something, but you can’t make out exactly what they’re saying. It’s very fishy though. While the matchups continue, outside of the tournament, four cloaked figures are walking on the path up to the colluseeum. Captain Syrup, laying in a reclined position on one of the fallen pillars notices them. (She’s wearing a Smash Brethren Badge, like Mario, Peach and Kirby) As she pulls out a walkie talkie and begins to dail in the 911 code, one of the cloaked figures blasts a beam across towards her, she rolls off, barely dodging the attack. As she recovers her footing and stands up, she doesn’t notice a very large, cloaked member standing behind her. The Scene flashes back to the tournament, where Kirby has been paired up against Bowser. He winks at Mario, and walks up to the stage.

Chaptor Three:
Kirby promptly defeats Bowser, who storms off stage, not to be seen again. Another match starts up, and Link’s picture is drawn, his opponent is Porky. (This battle is not shown) The scene switches to an outer space, where Fox and Samus notice the cloaked assailents. They quickly begin to call Peach up, when Samus looks out the window. A large army of space pirates are coming towards them. So, quickly, Fox dails up the Comet observatory, and calls for backup. You can choose between Fox, or Samus.

Chaptor Four:
The final match of prelims starts, and the two contestants are Peach, and Ganondorf. As the two step on the stage, their eyes meet. This is the match everyone is waiting for. Suddenly, through all four large doors on each end of the colleseeum, a masked figure barges in. They all pull out explosives, and set the timed bombs in front of them. The crowd goes crazy and beings fleeing the scene. Peach rushes at Ganon and uses a Peach Bomber, only to be blocked, and swiftly tossed to the other side of the field. Bowser’s airship drops in, and picks Ganon up. Mario and Kirby run on stage to try and stop him, only to be stopped dead in their tracks by one of the masked fighters. Slowly, Mario realizes the only way out of this would be to defeat the four fighters before the bombs go off. Link and Sheik step up onto the stage as well. Slowly, the five heros come face to face with the four cloaked warriors. Medusa, Black Knight, King Hippo, and Black Shadow reveal themselves. Choose four characters to fight these four.

Evil group: Bowser, Ganondorf, Black Shadow, Black Knight, King Hippo, Medusa

Smash Brethren: Peach, Kirby, Mario, Fox, Samus, Captain Syrup

Neutral: Wario, Link, Sheik

 

[Johnknight1]

So we should expect the Animal Crosser, because Sakurai felt they weren't much of fighters during Brawl's development, and they've been in a couple games since?

No, because unlike Toad, the Animal Crossers have a better but similar solution: The Miis. They also haven't fought in several games.

Doesn't have a chance in Hell, let alone before Waluigi. If Waluigi is scraping the bottom of the barrel as you claim he is, then Wart is scraping underneath the barrel.

According to you. Nearly everyone (myself included) thought the idea of a Pokémon Trainer had no chance pre-Brawl, but it happened. Plus Wart is just the kind of retro character Sakurai would choose. Also, characters don't "compete" with each other, minus late add-on clones and say Mewtwo and Roy vs. Sonic (although you never claimed that). The characters Sakurai has at the end of his short list have to compete with "time." Plus Wart would be considered a "retro" character, while Waluigi would be considered a newer character.

That may be so, but you don't see that much support for him. Also, again, would he be a Mario rep or a Yoshi rep?

I dunno if Kamek would be a Yoshi or Mario character, and quite frankly, nobody cares. I think Kamek is the kind of character that would fit nicely in a smash bros a decade from now. Popular, retro, and yet still makes appearances from time to time.

Because clearly, mentioning a character's name three times means that they are well liked and are shoo-ins. That's why Krystal got in over Wolf, oh wait...

No. The point I was making with Geno is that Geno is known by Sakurai, and it seems he likes him, too. It may not mean much, but it is something to consider.

And Ridley was talked about 4 times, that's why he was a welcomed Newcomer for Brawl....wait a minute...
At this point in time, to actually expect Geno of all characters is foolish. He's a minor Mario character (more minor than Waluigi, btw) that's very old and is owned by another company. His "fanbase" (which was just a bandwagon) has been very quiet since he wasn't in Brawl, and he's pretty much overrated anyway.

I've never said Geno was likely or said I expected him. However, I think he still has a chance. Not much of a chance, but a chance.

The paper version of the mustachioed hero has the doctor version of the mustacioed hero to deal with. Especially since said doctor has been in Smash before and was planned for Brawl.

Again I gotta say this, but I got a "gut feeling" that Paper Mario will be playable. I just mentally have connected the dots, and every angle I take, he seems more likely.

There's less support for Birdo than there is for Waluigi. Much less.

I'm not saying Birdo is more likely than Waluigi. That would be foolish. Rather, Birdo has had a presence in Smash since Melee, and is always "there" if you catch my drift.

EDIT: At least with Ridley and Takamaru, they have more going for them than they did in Brawl's time.

I don't think Takamaru had too much support (he had a bit in Japan), whereas Ridley was wanted by everyone who knew of him outside of Japan and some support in Japan.

Ridley, well, has more support than before, Sakurai understands that he has that support (the Nintendo Power interview) and said that while he didn't really consider Ridley for Brawl, he could work as a character if best efforts were given.

This is exactly why I think Ridley is a near lock for Smash Wii U and 3DS Smash. Nearly all of the most wanted characters for the previous Smash Bros. but didn't make it tend to get even more support and make it in the next Smash Bros game. Bowser, Peach, and Mewtwo were really wanted in Smash 64 and made it in Brawl, while Wario, Diddy Kong, and King Dedede were really wanted for Melee, and made it in Brawl.

Takamaru has Samurai Warriors 3 as well as the upcoming 3D Classic remake for the 3DS, which might be released outside of Japan, as it was shown at E3 under "Mystery of Murasame Castle".

Geno....has nothing that he didn't have in Brawl's time, and even then, it isn't much.

Agreed, although Geno still has a shot, Square willing.

 

[Wizzrobe]

Were all of these rosters made with my Maker? If so, I really need to hurry up and upload my new, superior version as fast as possible.

Looking forward to this Jakor.

 

[Johnknight1]

Not every heavily requested character gets into Smash no GoldenY. Wario, Diddy and MetaKnight where all requested a lot for Melee, but didn't make it in Melee. But that's why they're in Brawl. Big chance heavy requested characters for Brawl will be requested again, and might make it this time.

Pretty much this. Mega Man, Ridley, and Mewtwo had MASSIVE support in Brawl, and I think that will help "push them" to being playable in Smash Bros. Wii U and 3DS.

Edit: I is out to go play TF2 with my brother and mic spam by calling him a fat ****** (even if he's a skinny giant).

 

[SmashChu]

@Shortie:Never finished my story. Maybe I should go back and wrap it up.

 

[Metal Overlord]

That intriguing fanfic Shortie just posted reminds me of how much I would love for Medusa to get into Smash

 

[Opossum]

Huh. The more I think of it, the more I like the prospect of Zoroark in Smash. I mean, as of right now, I think Victini will get in...but not by much over Zoroark. I'm up in the air right now over it. I don't like it. I like my opinions to be solid! D:

But yeah. Just saying.

 

[Arcadenik]

People wants the least important Wario character over the two more important Wario characters. Lolwat

That's because they love teh loli!

 

[RomanceDawn]

Huh. The more I think of it, the more I like the prospect of Zoroark in Smash. I mean, as of right now, I think Victini will get in...but not by much over Zoroark. I'm up in the air right now over it. I don't like it. I like my opinions to be solid! D:

But yeah. Just saying.

I would love to have both actually, but I can't get my hopes too high if the 6th generation of Pokemon will be nearing release by the time this game releases. So except for Mewtwo I will just try to hold my personal feelings down when it comes to Pokemon reps.

 

[Opossum]

I think it's a bit too soon for a 6th Gen rep. If anything, Genesect would seem more likely at this point. Although, I think someone else was on to something when they said, "He's gonna be Smash 4's Darkrai."


Anyway, just wondering. Which of these rosters do you guys prefer...

Roster 1:

Spoiler

Roster 2:

Spoiler

 

[Arcadenik]

Genesect as Smash 4's Darkrai? So, he's not getting in then because Darkrai didn't get in Brawl.

 

[Wizzrobe]

I think it's a bit too soon for a 6th Gen rep. If anything, Genesect would seem more likely at this point. Although, I think someone else was on to something when they said, "He's gonna be Smash 4's Darkrai."


Anyway, just wondering. Which of these rosters do you guys prefer...

Roster 1:

Spoiler

Roster 2:

Spoiler

They look almost the exact same just with some characters in different spots.

 

[Opossum]

Genesect as Smash 4's Darkrai? So, he's not getting in then because Darkrai didn't get in Brawl.

Basically, I think he'll be the "Event 'Mon Late in the Dex that has a Comparatively Small but Still Decently Sized Following but Ultimately the Game Will Be Too Far Ahead to Include Him as Anything More than a Trophy."

Just taking a stab at it.


@ Wizzrobe. I know, that's the point. I wanna know which outcome is more appealing.

 

[Metal Overlord]

Roster 1 and 2 are pretty much the same except for Zoroark instead of Victini on Roster 2 and no Krom on Roster 1 so I'll go with Roster 2, I guess

 

[Opossum]

Essentially, Roster 1 has Victini and Bowser Jr., while Roster 2 has Zoroark and Krom.

 

[Metal Overlord]

What is it with these Mario characters? Toad, Bowser Jr, Dr. Mario (hatahs gon hate), Paper Mario all seem like great choices, but all of them have their detractors. None of them really stand out amongst each other, so I honestly don't have a real clue who'll be the new Mario rep (hoping it's Toad, but Sakurai already kinda shot him down before)

 

[Opossum]

I know what you mean. I just wish it was just clear cut who would be in. Hopefully one of them gets revealed early, at least, to stir up and enhance speculation a bit.

 

[Oasis_S]

It's unfortunate the only Mario characters are Toad, another Bowser, two more Marios, and a Mario knockoff's knockoff.

Toad pretty much wins by default.

Spoiler

Still secretly wishing for Paintbrush Jr.

Metal Overlord... You jerk... you overtook Star's position in postcount for this thread. Now touting my eventual 5,000 posts over him will be meaningless.

 

[Wizzrobe]

This is why I think there aren't really any new good Mario newcomers anymore.

 

[yani]

Muddy Mole is definitely my top retro pick

 

[Wario Bros.]

Balloon Fighter is definitely my top retro pick (in fact, it's my top pick on all picks)

 

[Metal Overlord]

Don't make me feel like Omega 2.0 more than I already do lol

 

[Arcadenik]

Duck Hunt Dog is my #1 most wanted retro pick.

This is why I think there aren't really any new good Mario newcomers anymore.

Hey! Toad IS a good Mario newcomer. I've always wanted him in Smash since Melee.

I believe Toad could have some interesting special moves based on his affinity with mushrooms and his fabled superhuman strength.

Poison Mushrooms from Super Mario Kart. Golden Mushrooms from Mario Kart Double Dash. Propeller Mushrooms from New Super Mario Bros. Wii. Picking up and throwing enemies from Super Mario Bros. 2

This video made me want Toad even more when I saw it.

 

[Oasis_S]

Takamach Ride-aru is my top retro pick.

 

[Shorts]

Looking at Shortie's poll results and ignoring all the characters who didn't get 100 votes or more as of April 6, 2012.

The votes have been tampered with, and only I know how many REAL votes characters got. So, these are innacurate. I had some idiot vote like, 60 times these past months the exact same two rosters, so these numbers are incorrect.

ONLY I KNOW THE REAL NUMBERS.

But the most important thing you need to know is:

Ridley, K. Rool, Mewtwo, Isaac, Little Mac, Toad, Krystal, and Megaman have a significantly higher amount of votes than the rest of the characters. The drop off from these three are like, 50 votes. Then I think Medusa, Dixie, and Goroh are next in line.

It's unfortunate the only Mario characters are Toad, another Bowser, two more Marios, and a Mario knockoff's knockoff.

Toad pretty much wins by default.

Spoiler

Still secretly wishing for Paintbrush Jr.

Metal Overlord... You jerk... you overtook Star's position in postcount for this thread. Now touting my eventual 5,000 posts over him will be meaningless.

I don't think Toad will play all that unique either. TBH.

 

[Deleted member]

No, because unlike Toad, the Animal Crossers have a better but similar solution: The Miis. They also haven't fought in several games. Toad hasn't really either...unless you count chucking vegetables at people in SMB2, but Peach already does that. DOUBLE STANDARDS. Actually, looking back at it, Toad has really yet to do anything unique compared to other characters, save for some mushroom powers in the spin-offs.

According to you. Nearly everyone (myself included) thought the idea of a Pokémon Trainer had no chance pre-Brawl, but it happened. Plus Wart is just the kind of retro character Sakurai would choose. Also, characters don't "compete" with each other, minus late add-on clones and say Mewtwo and Roy vs. Sonic (although you never claimed that). The characters Sakurai has at the end of his short list have to compete with "time." Plus Wart would be considered a "retro" character, while Waluigi would be considered a newer character. According to you. The only way Wart would be considered a "Retro" character is if Sakurai labeled him as a Doki Doki Panic character rather than a Mario one. And really, there are only three that we know he would choose from: Muddy Mole, Mach Rider, and Takamaru, because he has shown interest in all three and hasn't given a reason for why they can't work like he did with Balloon Fighter, Urban Champion, Bubbles, and Excitebiker.
And if no one is "competing" why were you acting as though Waluigi has too much "competition"?

I dunno if Kamek would be a Yoshi or Mario character, and quite frankly, nobody cares. I think Kamek is the kind of character that would fit nicely in a smash bros a decade from now. Popular, retro, and yet still makes appearances from time to time. If Kamek is a Retro, so is Yoshi. Just saiyan.

No. The point I was making with Geno is that Geno is known by Sakurai, and it seems he likes him, too. It may not mean much, but it is something to consider. Waluigi is clearly known by Sakurai as well, otherwise, he wouldn't have had a trophy in Melee nor be an Assist Trophy in Brawl.

I've never said Geno was likely or said I expected him. However, I think he still has a chance. Not much of a chance, but a chance. I do admit he has a chance, but it's very miniscule. Silver the Hedgehog has a bigger chance, to put it bluntly.[/I]

Again I gotta say this, but I got a "gut feeling" that Paper Mario will be playable. I just mentally have connected the dots, and every angle I take, he seems more likely. Hate to be rude, but, cool story bro. Gut feelings vs. actual evidence and logic don't end up in the gut's favor.
(By which I mean why I see Dr. Mario returning before Paper Mario makes it.)

I'm not saying Birdo is more likely than Waluigi. That would be foolish. Rather, Birdo has had a presence in Smash since Melee, and is always "there" if you catch my drift. Then why list Birdo as if she was competition? Don't say you didn't, because you did.

I don't think Takamaru had too much support (he had a bit in Japan), whereas Ridley was wanted by everyone who knew of him outside of Japan and some support in Japan. It goes more than just fan support, as I had shown. Also with the fact that Sakurai said that he would be in Smash if he ever got a sequel. While that sequel has yet to happen, it came pretty damn close with Samurai Warriors 3 having the Murasame Castle mode as well as the upcoming 3D Classics remake of the game.
And the fact that Takamaru is a retro would give Sakurai enough excuse to add him.

This is exactly why I think Ridley is a near lock for Smash Wii U and 3DS Smash. Nearly all of the most wanted characters for the previous Smash Bros. but didn't make it tend to get even more support and make it in the next Smash Bros game. Bowser, Peach, and Mewtwo were really wanted in Smash 64 and made it in Brawl, while Wario, Diddy Kong, and King Dedede were really wanted for Melee, and made it in Brawl. Don't mean to be a nitpicky prick, but since Smash 64 was the first game, I doubt anyone actually made requests or speculations. I believe what you're talking about is the pre-Melee poll, where Bowser was 1st and Peach was 2nd.

Agreed, although Geno still has a shot, Square willing. To be honest, the day Geno is revealed for Sm4sh is the day I stop speculating ANYTHING.

All this is getting nowhere. And the fact you keep trying to bring these arguments up with constant snide remarks about Waluigi out of nowhere (while at the same time bringing me up as well, as if you were egging me on) isn't helping.

 

[Metal Overlord]

I keep tellin y'all Waluigi is a curse word, lol

 

[Oasis_S]

Can't you just try... not liking Waluigi?

 

[Deleted member]

Can't you just try... not liking Waluigi?

Can't you just try... realizing that Leomon is better than Etemon in every way?

 

[Metal Overlord]

Can't we just try... listening to Peter Cullen say "Off the hook"?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Of1ncb3cek

 

[Johnknight1]

The more I think about it, the more I want Meta Knight and Pit to never return to Smash. At least, spammy Pit. If Pit players stop being b***hes, if Pit stops being a smash hoe, and all Pit players stop camping all day long maybe I'll want Pit back.

As for Meta Knight... he's just friggen annoying. He's like the Michael Phelps of smash. Seriously, I don't give a damn about swimming, it's not a sport! It's a race! A sport involves beating other people, not times!

/rant

P.S.: Plus Meta Knight is like the face of Brawl. I want that face decapitated!