New Smash Bros for WiiU

[Johnknight1]

Any idea I don't agree with is a bad idea.

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(lol fake baby attitude)

 

[Aurane]

Any idea I don't agree with is a bad idea.

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(lol fake baby attitude)

I hate you all


I'm going to bed. You all sicken me to my very marrow (imamarowakwtf). No Victini? No Victories.

Good night.

 

[Johnknight1]

I wasn't trying to make fun of anyone... but I guess I made fun of asage since he's a big baby!

Good night kid. Don't get eaten by Freddie Krueger. He's hungry tonight...

Edit: HERE IS SOME BIG NEWS! (No joke!)

 

[Arcadenik]

The only Pokemon newcomer I want is Meowth. Either as an independent character or as a team character with Arbok and Weezing. Team Rocket would be sweet!

 

[Jeffbelittle]

Okay, I didn't have the time to post this before. I do now.

I don't understand how you can possibly be okay with the current clones of Smash and yet think Shadow would fall under the same clone like aspects of Sonic.

My biggest example of this is Falco.

If you know Falco, it's almost 99% likely you know him for nothing more than being a condescending side character chilling out in an Arwing. While it was a cool skin, and a cool voice: there was nothing aside from his lasers being blue rather than yellow (which was fixed when you got two laser power ups on any character anyways) which made him any more appealing or memorable.

There's NOTHING to base Falco off of aside from just a complete generic clone of Fox. And you know what? That shows.

Every special attack fox has, falco has. with very very miniscule differences.
They have the same down smash.
They have the same up smash.
They have the same down aerial.
They have similar up aerials.
They're roughly the same size and weight.
They have the same final smash.

And everyone thinks Falco is just the GOAT of all characters, weeee falco zomg Falco Falco Falco.

I love Starfox. I love Falco. But I'm not going to act like he's not just a cooler skinned, badd *** attitude of Fox.


Shadow the Hedgehog on the other hand? If only Sonic Adventures 2 existed, there'd be enough differences to have a character that was LESS of a clone than Falco to Fox. Shadow, and the evil side in general, had it's OWN story line converging with the good story line. Not only was there more background of Shadow than (oh hey, it's falco, he's your teammate, he's kind've douchey)- but he has DIFFERENT MOVES. Hell the first god damn time Sonic meets Shadow Sonic himself says shadow isn't fast it's the fact he has completely unique abilities that makes him formidable. THE VERY FIRST ENCOUNTER.

LET ALONE Sonic Heroes where Shadow gets even more individuality. Or... oh I don't know: THE SHADOW GAME SERIES which features an entire unique move set and weight properties.


To say ANYTHING about Shadow and how "boring" of a character you find him sounds beyond ignorant to the series at all. It's a slap in the face of anyone who likes the Sonic Generation to hear someone says TAILS has more unique properties when all we knows he can fly, and he can throw his teammates.

There's more out there for Shadow to not be a solid clone of Sonic than:

Luigi to Mario
Toon Link to Link
Falco to Fox
Lucas to Ness

 

[Johnknight1]

Falco is a better character than Shadow IMO. I don't care if Shadow has his own games, or is important to his franchise. Falco's already in smash, he's Nintendo-owned, and he isn't a total tag along loser. Plus, Shadow would require many legal loopholes to go through, and quite frankly, Tails, Dr. Eggman, and Knuckles get priority over him (sorry newbie Sonic fans who started on Sonic Heroes). Oh, and Falco
s voice actors aren't annoying, unlike Shadow. Plus Falco's Melee and Brawl play style are awesome. Seriously, just watch videos of great Falco players. In Brawl, he's just three special moves away from being original.

As for clones, they are late add-ons. Basically, they were added on in Melee (Luigi aside) when there was not enough time to make another original character (and possibly this is true with Wolf in Brawl). In Brawl, they were all made more original.

Also, your argument with Falco being a "clone" could be argued for most of the roster in Smash 64. Just go back and play the game, and you'll see everyone has the sex kick, the same down air, the same forward air, etc (generally speaking, of course).

 

[Shorts]

Shadow isn't going to be playable, end of discussion. If any Sonic series character not named Sonic is playable, it is pretty much all Tails and maybe Dr. Eggman as a "WTF?"

Plus... ya' know... Shadow has a lot of haters. Myself included. After he was introduced, the Sonic franchise went to the poopers, and was largely forgotten.

Nooooo. It's evident with him being an AT that he has A GOOD SHOT at being chosen for the second Sonic character, ON THAT INSANELY OFF CRAZY CHANCE.

Shadow has a lot of haters, and made it into Brawl, I think its safe to say Sakurai don give a ****.

Shadow or Tails, that's it. Actually none.

but I guess I made fun of asage since he's a big baby!

You guess? He talks with his condescending tone, but as SOON as someone dogs him, he cries. At least I'm a *****, and can take it when someone says something.

The only Pokemon newcomer I want is Meowth. Either as an independent character or as a team character with Arbok and Weezing. Team Rocket would be sweet!

Das crazy, if we get a nutso Pokemon Trainer.... we should have like, a "Meowth, Pichu, Gardevior" trainer (Leaf?)

 

[Aurane]

I wasn't trying to make fun of anyone... but I guess I made fun of asage since he's a big baby!

 

[Johnknight1]

Truly any character has a "shot" that is 3rd party and appeared on a Nintendo console. Still, I doubt smash fans would prefer Shadow over the likes of Tails or Knuckles, unless most smash fans are fans of recent Sonic games (I don't know why; all of the games passed Adventure 2 are mediocre at best). Quite frankly, Shadow would get a lot of backlash against him if he was playable and say... Mega Man wasn't.

And asage isn't a whiner. He whines occasionally, but not on a regular basis.

 

[Jeffbelittle]

Falco is a better character than Shadow IMO. I don't care if Shadow has his own games, or is important to his franchise. Falco's already in smash, he's Nintendo-owned, and he isn't a total tag along loser. Plus, Shadow would require many legal loopholes to go through, and quite frankly, Tails, Dr. Eggman, and Knuckles get priority over him (sorry newbie Sonic fans who started on Sonic Heroes). Oh, and Falco
s voice actors aren't annoying, unlike Shadow. Plus Falco's Melee and Brawl play style are awesome. Seriously, just watch videos of great Falco players. In Brawl, he's just three special moves away from being original.

As for clones, they are late add-ons. Basically, they were added on in Melee (Luigi aside) when there was not enough time to make another original character (and possibly this is true with Wolf in Brawl). In Brawl, they were all made more original.

Also, your argument with Falco being a "clone" could be argued for most of the roster in Smash 64. Just go back and play the game, and you'll see everyone has the sex kick, the same down air, the same forward air, etc (generally speaking, of course).

There's soo many things wrong with what you said I don't even know where to begin.

How is Shadow a "Tag a long loser?" and falco isn't? Shadow has his own story line, breaks away from the sonic franchise into his own game. Falco is a dude who just says **** like "pretty smooth flying fox" when you go under water bridges like a water ski.

Why on earth would you say Falco's game play brings something epic as if you could ever know Shadow's couldn't? If Shadow was done right he'd be somewhere between a fusion of Fox and Mewtwo which would mean amazing mind games and high skill caps.

You thinking Shadow is a lame character doesn't matter. You need to back things up with some sort of evidence.


And finally: it's repulsive to hear Tails and Egg Man mentioned as priority over Shadow. This is 100% ludicrous bias gook that nobody wants to take part of but you. I can agree Knuckles has very similar priority to Shadow, hence why I also advocate him as well. But Tails and Egg man?

Tails brings NOTHING to this game. NOTHING. You'd just have to BS basically everything tail would do in move set because unless you're going to stick him into a robot that knows 2 moves, there's never anything unique about Tails. He IS a tag along player. Hell: AMY ROSE would be a much better character than Tails. And Eggman? He's either not fighting you at all, in a giant machine which we obviously can't replicate (that's not a size thing, it's a he'd be WAY TOOO GIMMICKY thing), or letting minions do everything anyways.



Admit it: you just don't like Shadow. You link Shadow with the new**** of the sonic community and because of such you're 100% bias against him. In reality: he'd be a much better addition than some of the stupid **** I've read in this thread already.

 

[Kantrip]

This page....

 

[BKupa666]

In terms of the above mentioned DK music, I'm predicting a whole lot of unchanged music from DKCR, as well as rearranged versions of the few old songs not present in that game, most notably the Gangplank Galleon theme. Stage or no stage, that song has to be in as a theme song to accompany the King.

 

[Aurane]

And asage isn't a whiner. He whines occasionally, but not on a regular basis.

Bu-but... You don't like the Victories... I... I don't get it...

Okay, seriously, I'm off. I have school tomarrow (If you guys knew me as off school, I went back :D), so i need sleep. G'night. 4 real, this time.

 

[Shorts]

Truly any character has a "shot" that is 3rd party and appeared on a Nintendo console. Still, I doubt smash fans would prefer Shadow over the likes of Tails or Knuckles, unless most smash fans are fans of recent Sonic games (I don't know why; all of the games passed Adventure 2 are mediocre at best). Quite frankly, Shadow would get a lot of backlash against him if he was playable and say... Mega Man wasn't.

And asage isn't a whiner. He whines occasionally, but not on a regular basis.

Shadow's backlash would only be considered bad by people who hate him, otherwise he would be as welcomed as Sonic. Oh? You didn't know, a lot of people didn't want him or Snake in that game? But here they are. Sakurai just doesn't give too many ****s about the haters, and, truth be told... fan opinion means... (---) this much..

Sakurai has shown the most interest in Shadow out of all the Sonic characters... and that's just what it is.

ANYWAYS, **** SONIC CHARACTERS. We can move on at any point.

 

[Deleted member]

@Johnknight: Yeah, I can respect that. Even I, a Shadow fan, agree that Shadow was at his best in SA2.
Had Sega gone with the original concept that he DID in fact sacrifice himself in SA2 and can appear in the future in non-canon multiplayer modes for games like Metal Sonic did in SA2, I'm sure Shadow wouldn't have gotten as much flak as he does.

So yeah, I'm one of the only sane Shadow fans.

@asage: I'm sorry, but I absolutely HATE Metal Sonic for taking what should be rightfully Mecha Sonic's. Expanded roles.
Metal Sonic was a pathetic robot that raced you and lost. Mecha Sonic fought you dead on, was a legitimate threat, SURVIVED being beaten, then fought you again (as Knuckles) while taking power from the MASTER EMERALD.
Mecha was a BAMF. Why Metal Sonic got all the **** he did after CD, I have no clue.

 

[Wizzrobe]

Still, I doubt smash fans would prefer Shadow over the likes of Tails or Knuckles, unless most smash fans are fans of recent Sonic games (I don't know why; all of the games passed Adventure 2 are mediocre at best).

Have you seen the most recent Sonic games? They are great, and easily just as good as sonic games like SA2. (which is saying a lot) Sonic 4 episode 1 was great, Sonic Colors was even better, and Sonic Generations was just amazing and possibly my favorite Sonic game ever.

 

[Deleted member]

There's soo many things wrong with what you said I don't even know where to begin.

How is Shadow a "Tag a long loser?" and falco isn't? Shadow has his own story line, breaks away from the sonic franchise into his own game. Falco is a dude who just says **** like "pretty smooth flying fox" when you go under water bridges like a water ski.

Why on earth would you say Falco's game play brings something epic as if you could ever know Shadow's couldn't? If Shadow was done right he'd be somewhere between a fusion of Fox and Mewtwo which would mean amazing mind games and high skill caps.

You thinking Shadow is a lame character doesn't matter. You need to back things up with some sort of evidence.


And finally: it's repulsive to hear Tails and Egg Man mentioned as priority over Shadow. This is 100% ludicrous bias gook that nobody wants to take part of but you. I can agree Knuckles has very similar priority to Shadow, hence why I also advocate him as well. But Tails and Egg man?

Tails brings NOTHING to this game. NOTHING. You'd just have to BS basically everything tail would do in move set because unless you're going to stick him into a robot that knows 2 moves, there's never anything unique about Tails. He IS a tag along player. Hell: AMY ROSE would be a much better character than Tails. And Eggman? He's either not fighting you at all, in a giant machine which we obviously can't replicate (that's not a size thing, it's a he'd be WAY TOOO GIMMICKY thing), or letting minions do everything anyways.



Admit it: you just don't like Shadow. You link Shadow with the new**** of the sonic community and because of such you're 100% bias against him. In reality: he'd be a much better addition than some of the stupid **** I've read in this thread already.

Shadow fanboys like you are what bring Shadow fans like me to shame.
Tails and Eggman have seniority and importance to the series that Shadow lacks. So what if Shadow had his own spin-off, Tails has had 3.
You are incredibly stupid and biased to say that Tails and Eggman wouldn't work.
Simple Tails moveset that's not BSed:
B: Dummy Ring Bombs (Used in Heroes and '06)
Side B: Spin Dash (Self-explanatory)
Up B: Heli-Tails (His signature flying ability)
Down B: Tailspin (My name for his spinning tails "dance" in Sonic Adventure, or alternatively, his spinning tornado attack in Sonic Advance 3)
Final Smash: Cyclone-He hops into the Cyclone and is a psuedo-Landmaster.
Alternate Final Smash (If Sakurai doesn't give a **** that this hasn't been so since S3&K): Super Tails. He is essentially a faster, stronger Tails, like Wario-Man is for Wario. However, Super Tails has four glowing Flickies following him that automatically target an opponent if they are nearby Tails.
His normal attacks are taken from Sonic the Fighters, like Sonic's were.

Eggman

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DR. EGGMAN
Gimmick: Dr. Eggman fights while in his trusty Eggmobile. The design of the Eggmobile is taken after Sonic Battle, where it is more compact, has the same color scheme as Eggman himself (making alternate colors easier to make), and has two cannons loaded at the base to work for part of the moveset. He is given multiple jumps and an ability to float like Peach in exchange for an Up Special recovery.

ALSO, he cannot be grabbed by normal grabs. He can still be grabbed by special moves like the Falcon Dive and Flying Slam. And he can be Inhaled by Kirby and DDD.

Neutral Combo: Shoots a small missile out of the left cannon, then the right. Keeps going for how many times the player presses the button. Yes, this has insane range, but the missiles lack decent knockback and strength.

Forward Tilt: A boxing glove on a spring pops out in front of the Eggmobile, similar to the Egg Walker’s close range attack in Sonic Adventure 2.

Dash Attack: A drill pops out in front of the Eggmobile, similar to the first Drill Car in Sonic 2, while Eggman charges forward.

Up Tilt: Eggman swats above with his arm.

Down Tilt: An electrical prod pops out in front of the Eggmobile near the bottom.

Forward Smash: A giant hammer pops out in front of the Eggmobile and it slams down in front of it.

Up Smash: Two drill arms pop out at the sides of the Eggmobile, and propel upwards, drilling opponents.

Down Smash: Two circular saws form at the sides of the Eggmobile near the bottom and spin around the machine, hitting both sides.

Neutral Air: Electric field (similar to Mewtwo)

Forward Air: Flamethrower burst with the two cannons.

Back Air: A mechanical boot pops out of the back of the Eggmobile and kicks.

Up Air: Eggman shows a display of fighting capability and strength by punching upwards twice.

Down Air: A spike pops out at the bottom of the Eggmobile, and Eggman falls, attempting to prick opponent below.

Grab: Two smaller versions of the arms from Big Arm from Sonic 3 form on the sides of the Eggmobile, and he grabs with the hands.

Pummel: He crushes the opponent in the hands.

Forward Throw: Overhead flings the opponent forward.

Up Throw: Flings the opponent upward.

Back Throw: Turns and lets go the opponent, flinging them.

Down Throw: Rises, then slams the opponent down, and lets go.

Neutral Special: Egg Bombs-Eggman tosses three bombs forward at a downward arch, each being a pace apart from the last. (Taken from Sonic the Fighters)

Forward Special: Bumper Arms-Two Bumper Arms pop out the sides of the Eggmobile, and propel forward, one arm at a time. This pushes opponents back, and reflects projectiles. This is similar to Sonic CD’s first boss.

Up Special: Missile Launcher-A missile launcher pops out of the back of the Eggmobile, and strong missiles are launched to the sky and fly towards opponents. (Taken from Sonic Adventure 2)

Down Special: Wrecking Ball-Eggman flies up a few paces (if in the air, he doesn’t) then drops down a miniature wrecking ball from the bottom of the Eggmobile. For a few seconds, he can hover in place and move back and forth, which swings the wrecking ball. When the attack is over, he goes into helpless state.

Final Smash: Death Egg Robot-Eggman flies up off the screen and comes crashing down in the Death Egg Robot. Whichever way Eggman was facing will be the way the DER will be facing, and it can’t turn around. In it, he is able to walk around to run into opponents and shoot the arms of the robot forward. He can also jump. HIGH.



So, what do you think? Decent? Needs work? Give me constructive criticism, please.


EDIT: "How would he use items?" is a question that I'm surprised it wasn't asked. Anyways, to use items, a robot claw like one of the ones from his Sonic the Fighters mech pops out of the side of the Eggmobile to hold on to items and use weapons.

 

[yani]

Give me Dixie or give me death

 

[Johnknight1]

A. Shadow's backlash would only be considered bad by people who hate him, otherwise he would be as welcomed as Sonic. Oh? You didn't know, a lot of people didn't want him or Snake in that game? But here they are. Sakurai just doesn't give too many ****s about the haters, and, truth be told... fan opinion means... (---) this much..

Nobody will ever be as wanted as Sonic, ever. Sonic was welcomed with open arms by most. Shadow would most likely be a clone, and most smash bros players hate clones.

Also, fans express their opinions in cash. If people don't like it, they won't buy it. Plus last time I went to Game Stop they had a ton of Brawl used copies, whereas I rarely saw used copies of Melee in any game store ever. And quite frankly,

Sakurai has shown the most interest in Shadow out of all the Sonic characters... and that's just what it is.

Not really. Quite frankly, Shadow makes a better Assist Trophy character than Tails or Knuckles. That is why he was an Assist Trophy character. Other than that, he hasn't shown any favoritism towards any of them. Plus I think the Tails EGM April's Fools Day joke a few years ago works in his favor. That's when people started really wanting Sonic...

 

[Shorts]

That whole post was, "I must throw out every two bit argument to make Shadow look bad"

So, he will cause people to not by Smash, he WILL be a clone, and Shadow may have been favored, but besides that, he wasn't really favored, plus Tails is the reason Sonic was in Brawl. Okayyyyy,


Shadow being in Smash would be nothing but a good thing for sales, and for the most part, people wouldn't be upset, and a lot would be happy. Sakurai has shown the most interest in him. This is just the way it is.

Ew, I hate Sonic characters.

 

[Deleted member]

Are you sure Sakurai was the one interested in Shadow, or Sega wasn't just trying any way they can to ***** out Shadow as they were doing at the time?

At which point, look who's being *****d out by Sega now...lol

And this is coming from someone that would main Shadow if he was in Smash.

 

[Lukingordex]

I am indiferent about Sonic characters,but if a new Sonic character will join,this character need to be Dr. Eggman

XDDD

 

[Johnknight1]

Shadow wouldn't contribute much sales that Sonic already brings, unlike Mega Man and Pac-Man.

Tails might bring in a lot of younger players, as he comes off as more "kid friendly" than an emo teenager who can't decide if he wants to sacrifice clay goats or lego goats.

 

[Deleted member]

Actually, John, it would be the other way around.
Tails would be too "cute" to the kiddies. They like dark, "cool" things. This is where Shadow exceeeds Tails.

 

[Johnknight1]

Nah, Shadow appeals to older kids in the range of 7-13 generally who want to a bad a**. If they wanted to be real bad a**es, they would want to be Snake! Really that crowd has enough characters to appeal to them. The younger audience doesn't have much, aside from Pokémon.

Tails appeals to the 7 and below audience. I know this because I was really into Tails up until I was around 7 or 8, and I see it persistently in kids today.

Tails brings NOTHING to this game. NOTHING. You'd just have to BS basically everything tail would do in move set because unless you're going to stick him into a robot that knows 2 moves, there's never anything unique about Tails. He IS a tag along player. Hell: AMY ROSE would be a much better character than Tails. And Eggman? He's either not fighting you at all, in a giant machine which we obviously can't replicate (that's not a size thing, it's a he'd be WAY TOOO GIMMICKY thing), or letting minions do everything anyways.

Stop waving around your opinion like it's a fact. Tails would easily be an original and non-gimmicky character. Stop basing everything off newer Sonic games son.

Admit it: you just don't like Shadow. You link Shadow with the new**** of the sonic community and because of such you're 100% bias against him. In reality: he'd be a much better addition than some of the stupid **** I've read in this thread already.

LOL at the kid who thinks his opinion is fact. Just because you want it in smash doesn't mean it will be there. We're trying to be realistic with who will be playable. Although we make wish list sometimes, generally we want to discuss who actually has a reasonable chance of being playable.

 

[Deleted member]

But it's strange how I seem to be an oxymoron, right?
I'm a sane Shadow fan.
A Sane. Shadow fan.

Think about it. I should be put in a freakshow. Lol

 

[Johnknight1]

You should be Golden. You should be.

If the Shadow fan base (and all the new Sonic kids) acted more like you, they wouldn't be hated on all the time. Really they are one of the worst video game fan bases of all-time. Plus they think crap like Shadow the Hedgehog is better that the good stuff like Sonic 3!

Have you seen the most recent Sonic games? They are great, and easily just as good as sonic games like SA2. (which is saying a lot) Sonic 4 episode 1 was great, Sonic Colors was even better, and Sonic Generations was just amazing and possibly my favorite Sonic game ever.

Yes those games are great, but before Sonic 4, Colors, and Generations (and to a lesser extent, The Dark Brotherhood) the Sonic franchise was in peril. Unleashed had good parts, but the Werewolf was stupid. Most of the games between Sonic Adventure 2 and those games ranged from mediocre crap. That is save for the Advance series, which was excellent and underrated. The Rush series was good, too.

 

[Shorts]

Are you sure Sakurai was the one interested in Shadow, or Sega wasn't just trying any way they can to ***** out Shadow as they were doing at the time?

At which point, look who's being *****d out by Sega now...lol

And this is coming from someone that would main Shadow if he was in Smash.

Do you think it matters? Sakurai has interest, SEGA, has interest? Either way, if either have interest in making him playable, theres a large chance he will be.

OF COURSE WE DON'T KNOW ANYTHING, AND SONIC ISN'T GOING TO GET ANOTHER CHARACTER.

I hate defending Shadow, believe me, I do, but it annoys me to see so many people believe one haters attempt to fling mud on a character

 

[Deleted member]

I would personally like to see that Melee hoax finally be true, as would a lot of people.

And think about it, Mario and Luigi vs. Sonic and Tails? That would be Epic Win.

And we don't know that Sonic isn't going to get a new character, there has been no rule stating that 3rd Parties can't get a 2nd character.

@Johnknight: While I enjoy ShTH more than StH3, I will say that StH3 is the better game.

 

[Shorts]

But it's strange how I seem to be an oxymoron, right?
I'm a sane Shadow fan.
A Sane. Shadow fan.

Think about it. I should be put in a freakshow. Lol

Gay, non Furry KRYSTAL fan, is me.

Oxymoron.

 

[Deleted member]

No, Non-furry Krystal fans frequently exist, and being gay or not has nothing to determine an oxymoron on that...

Sane Shadow fans on the other hand....those things are rare. And endangered.

 

[Bazooka Joe]

Since Lucas from Mother 3 got in, I would like to see Flint join as well. I'm not quite sure what his play style would be like, but his damage given/taken ratio could be similar to Ike. Also, he'd be more unique from the EarthBound/Mother characters for the fact he doesn't have psi.

Also, they need to fix New Pork City. It would be cool if they just did one area of it instead the whole town in the back where there is too much room for a decent fight.

 

[---]

Wow, this discussion is dumb.

Can we just stop and move onto music or possible Sonic buffs?

 

[Johnknight1]

I still think Tails has a shot at being playable, although I don't know how much of a shot. I think that EGM 2004 April Fool's Days Melee prank will make people want him.

@ Triple Dash
I wouldn't say this discussion is crap, but a random made some silly points. Shadow fan boys who ignore logic tend to do that...

And finally: it's repulsive to hear Tails and Egg Man mentioned as priority over Shadow. This is 100% ludicrous bias gook that nobody wants to take part of but you. I can agree Knuckles has very similar priority to Shadow, hence why I also advocate him as well. But Tails and Egg man?

Tails has always been the Sonic series' #2 character. Your statements on Tails are purely opinion, and are ill informed. Dr. Eggman would be a great "WTF?" character IMO.

Give me Dixie or give me death

Where do I sign=???

 

[Metal Overlord]

If only Iblis were here to see this guy. lol

 

[Diddy Kong]

Shadow is the Waluigi of Sonic it seems Both are easily the most stupid suggestions commonly seen, and actually have a small shot of happening. That doesn't mean it SHOULD though :/

 

[Metal Overlord]

Those honors would easily go to Daisy and Silver, Diddy

But Shadow and Waluigi? The worst suggestions ever seen? lolno

 

[Diddy Kong]

No not worst suggestions ever seen, just common sucky ones. If I could prevent only 2 characters from making it in Smash, it would be Shadow and Waluigi. Easily.

 

[Aurane]

Good mornin', ya'll.

@asage: I'm sorry, but I absolutely HATE Metal Sonic for taking what should be rightfully Mecha Sonic's. Expanded roles.
Metal Sonic was a pathetic robot that raced you and lost. Mecha Sonic fought you dead on, was a legitimate threat, SURVIVED being beaten, then fought you again (as Knuckles) while taking power from the MASTER EMERALD.
Mecha was a BAMF. Why Metal Sonic got all the **** he did after CD, I have no clue.

That Mecha Dragon is ****ing class A for a Final Smash. I'd love to see that, and his originality kick in.
Hell, Sonic did it, Metal Sonic can, too.

But it's strange how I seem to be an oxymoron, right?
I'm a sane Shadow fan.
A Sane. Shadow fan.

Think about it. I should be put in a freakshow. Lol

To the circus with you. Now. With Impa, Waluigi, and the rest.

You'll probably see me, too

Wow, this discussion is dumb.

Can we just stop and move onto music or possible Sonic buffs?

Well, for Sonic buffs, what about one of the abilities on Sonic Colors or getting real awesome and adding dat light speed dash? I once explained it to work like a mix of Zelda and Fox's (B)>

Shadow is the Waluigi of Sonic it seems Both are easily the most stupid suggestions commonly seen, and actually have a small shot of happening. That doesn't mean it SHOULD though :/

Quote for truth.

Tbh, the only Sonic characters I'd like to see newcoming is either Vector, Espio, or Knuckles.

God, get dat Vector in're, and we got the best Sonic roster in existance. It's like adding a giant bowl of peanut butter to melted marshmellows, then using graham crackers as chips and the fluffer nutter as dip; ****ing delicious.

 

[Diddy Kong]

Only croc we need is King K.Rool