New Smash Bros for WiiU

[Shorts]

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Diddy's worst nightmare.

Imagine if the Zelda newcomers were Toon Zelda/Sheik and Toon Ganondorf.

I would love to see a Zelda newcomer, I just am too smart to bet on that happening.

Ghirahim, Midna, Tingle, Majora, Saria, alllll cool ideas IMO.

To be fair, Mii's don't come up much as playable characters either, and there is resistance to the idea there as well

Theres a lot of resistance from both inside and outside nintendo to add third parties too...

 

[Arcadenik]

I saw a very peculiar post on a Japanese site. There was someone that said he thought Metroid would definitely not get a newcomer in Smash 4, and someone responded to that post and said that Ridley is extremely popular overseas and he might get in just for that.

This is an interesting perspective from someone in Japan. It is funny how we are always saying that any character who are popular in Japan are more likely to get in Smash than any character who are popular overseas.

I mean, really... Sakurai had always been taking the Japanese opinions for the past three games in terms of playable characters (sans Sonic, this one is on the Westerns). And now Sakurai had been saying that it's hard to come up with new characters for Smash... I think he meant that it is hard to come up with any more characters for Smash who are popular in Japan... I think he might need to look into the West for popular characters as well.

 

[Berserker.]

berserker01: i'm afraid we can't be friends. no zelda love? pokemon hate? not even an acknowledgement of ridley?

I don't hate pokemon. I just don't care about whoever the newcomer will be.






























Dammit. I forgot Ridley.

 

[Deleted member]

Dammit. I forgot Ridley.

 

[Metal Overlord]

I'd like to see more Majora's Mask content in Smash

I haven't played very many Zelda games, but Majora's Mask has to be my favorite by far

 

[Berserker.]

I forgot Ridley because of that Firebrand personthing.

 

[Deleted member]

No need to explain. You have already earned the Ridley facepalm.

Geez, how many s have I done today?

 

[Berserker.]

I didn't add Ridley cause he was too obviousI really forgot about him






































I spent most of my time in SRK but I usually drop by here. Some ridiculous **** there like Zero being the best camper evuuur. I go to the Wright forums and lurk in the Law discussion.

 

[Arcadenik]

I'd like to see more Majora's Mask content in Smash

I haven't played very many Zelda games, but Majora's Mask has to be my favorite by far

Me, too.... Majora's Mask is my favorite Zelda game. It's been a while since we got unique Zelda characters in Smash. I mean, Melee added Zelda and Sheik as unique Zelda characters but Ganondorf and Young Link were clones. Brawl added Toon Link and was going to add Toon Zelda and Toon Sheik as clones. No more clones for the Zelda characters. I want unique Zelda characters. I really hope that Tingle and Masked Link (where Young Link is not playable but he transforms between Deku Link, Goron Link, and Zora Link) are in Smash 4. Majora's Mask as a boss in Adventure Mode would be sweet. God, I want Sakurai to promote Majora's Mask 3D (it will happen eventually) by adding Tingle and Masked Link as playable characters, Majora's Mask as a boss, Cuccos as Assist Trophy, and a new stage set in Termina... Clock Town comes to mind.

 

[ChronoBound]

The interesting thing I have seen also in Japan is that even Dr. Mario and Pichu come up to be brought back. They are not requested much, but definitely do come up more than they do in the West.

 

[Disfunkshunal]

Bring back great bay.

 

[Deleted member]

The interesting thing I have seen also in Japan is that even Dr. Mario and Pichu come up to be brought back. They are not requested much, but definitely do come up more than they do in the West.

What about Young Link?

 

[Shorts]

The interesting thing I have seen also in Japan is that even Dr. Mario and Pichu come up to be brought back. They are not requested much, but definitely do come up more than they do in the West.

On my poll, Mewtwo, Roy, and Pichu are requested frequently.

Doc and Young Link.... are not.

3. Mewtwo (308)
12. Roy (182)
25. Pichu (133)
56. Doctor Mario (66)
71. Young Link (53)

 

[ChronoBound]

What about Young Link?

Young Link only comes up when they are talking about him possibly being swapped back with Toon Link due to Ocarina of Time 3D.

 

[Deleted member]

I really don't understand why people want Pichu back...

And while it seems ironic that I want Dr. Mario back (as an alt selection for Mario like how the Gohans work in Budokai), at least Doc wasn't a joke character in the TVTropes definition.

@Chrono: Ah.

 

[Shorts]

Personally, I think Pichu is much more fun to play as than Pikachu. And I know Pichu is IN GENERAL a popular Pokemon as well as a Melee vet, so, it shouldn't suprise you people want to play as it.

 

[Deleted member]

I guess I could see Pichu returning, if Sakurai went with his canned idea about Plusle and Minun and gives us a Pichu duo instead, being either the Pichu Bros. or the Spiky-eared Pichu and Pikachu-colored Pichu from HG/SS.

Double the Pichu, double the fun?

 

[Shorts]

Sakurai never had a Plusle/Minun idea, but I do love HGSS Pichu duo.

 

[ChronoBound]

I really don't understand why people want Pichu back...

Some people love Dan Hibikis.

Also, on the topic of Pichu, I actually did see one Japanese poster respond to someone asking for Pichu to return saying, "Pichu did not get cut. He just evolved into Brawl Pikachu, see the goggles and being able to wall jump. "

 

[Deleted member]

Sakurai never had a Plusle/Minun idea, but I do love HGSS Pichu duo.

Pra_mai.

Don't give me any crap about it being "Random Box", as that's pure, unadulterated bs.

 

[Arcadenik]

I am pretty sure that only Mewtwo will be back but Roy and the other Melee clones remain cut.

Young Link might have a chance if Majora's Mask 3D happens.... but if he comes back, he better not be playable but we get to play as Deku Link, Goron Link, and Zora Link. If he is still going to be a clone, I'd rather keep Toon Link and just add Tingle.

Dr. Mario better be a costume and not a separate playable character if he comes back. I want Toad, not another Mario.

No more electric rodents. I am fine with Pikachu, I don't need Pichu, Raichu, Plusle & Minun, Pachirisu, or Emolga. Just gimme an unique Pokemon like Mewtwo, Meowth teamed with Arbok and Weezing (aka Team Rocket), and a 5th gen Pokemon who is not going to be a clone of an existing character.

Roy was fun in Melee but he isn't really needed in Smash 4. I'd rather have a brand-new, never-before-playable-in-Smash unique Fire Emblem character who is currently relevant like Krom.

 

[Deleted member]

Popularity trumps relevancy in most cases, Arcadenik.

Roy being just as wanted as Mewtwo, as well as being one of the most popular lords in Japan IN Smash and OUT, as I've recently learned, as well as being cut for time issues like Mewtwo, has more going for him than Krom, who just has the "he's new" argument.

 

[Shorts]

Pra_mai.

Don't give me any crap about it being "Random Box", as that's pure, unadulterated bs.

It's generally believed that it's the other way around.

Popularity trumps relevancy in most cases, Arcadenik.

Roy being just as wanted as Mewtwo, as well as being one of the most popular lords in Japan IN Smash and OUT, as I've recently learned, as well as being cut for time issues like Mewtwo, has more going for him than Krom, who just has the "he's new" argument.

Sorry, but no. Mewtwo is BY FAR more wanted than Roy. It's freaking Mewtwo. Need I say more?

 

[Metal Overlord]

If I ever hear someone else suggest Doc as an alt costume, Imma start slappin hoes

 

[ChronoBound]

Sorry, but no. Mewtwo is BY FAR more wanted than Roy. It's freaking Mewtwo. Need I say more?

In Japan, Mewtwo is the only character that is even in the same league as Roy in terms of requests. Mewtwo and Roy are basically S-tier in terms of requests (the Western analog would be Ridley and K. Rool). Roy may not be as requested as Mewtwo worldwide, but he is definitely among the most wanted characters for Smash 4 even in the West (and in the Top 2 in Japan).

 

[RomanceDawn]

As far as Ridley's chances go, at least we know Sakurai is extremely aware of Ridley. At least one cameo in each Smash game with his appearances becoming greater in each. Along with the interview question regarding him being playable at least we know it has crossed his mind, even if it was just for a moment.

That's all the hope I need. Mewtwo, Dixie and LIttle Mac seem like shoe ins as far as I'm concerned and anyone else will just be a pleasant extra for me.

 

[Arcadenik]

Popularity trumps relevancy? Maybe, but when faced with time constraints? Then it is relevancy that trumps popularity. Ike > Roy. Lucario > Mewtwo. After all, Nintendo wants to attract potential customers to their new games through Smash. They did want to sell Fire Emblem Path of Radiance and Pokemon Diamond & Pearl more than they do with Fire Emblem Sword of Seals and Pokemon FireRed & LeafGreen. A business wants to sell the new products first before the old products. That's last-in, first-out. The LIFO method.

 

[Wizzrobe]

All the characters that were in Melee that were cut for Brawl deserve to come back imo.

 

[Metal Overlord]

@MC Wizzy- MY MAN!!! I thought I was alone for a second

 

[Arcadenik]

All the characters that were in Melee that were cut for Brawl deserve to come back imo.

And they will come back... when Melee becomes available on Wii U Virtual Console.

 

[Wizzrobe]

And they will come back... when Melee becomes available on Wii U Virtual Console.

Well, in that case they are not really coming back to the series. they are just rereleasing the one smash game that they were in.

 

[Metal Overlord]

Allow me to drop some knowledge into y'all who think Doc should come back as a "costume":

Do y'all even understand the reason why people want Doc back?

Making Doc an alt pretty much defeats the purpose of us even wanting him back. Doc may have the same moves, but he doesn't handle the exact same way as Mario. We liked Doc because of his slightly altered playstyle; we found him to be more fun to play as than Mario. It isn't just the fact that Doc was "A-HYUCK MARIO WITH PILLS"; that's ONE reason but not the ONLY reason. If he were to be just a skin for Mario, then that would mean he would play the exact same as Mario. Ughhh, DO NOT WANT

Like I said, there are only three acceptable solutions:

1. Make him an alternate CHARACTER like the three Gohans (Kid Gohan, Teen Gohan and Great Saiyaman) in the first DBZ: Budokai game. Look it up if you don't know what I'm talking about. That way he wouldn't take up his own slot, his Melee playstyle would stay intact and everyone wins in the end. You can even apply this to Young Link and Pichu

2. Don't bring him back at all

3. Give him his own slot, and have people ***** about it as usual


NOT this alternate costume BS; get that stupid **** on somewhere

 

[RomanceDawn]

And they will come back... when Melee becomes available on Wii U Virtual Console.

A bigger troll would be, Dr Mario, Dark Pit, Dark Samus, and Demis making into Smash 4 all as separate characters but all complete clones.

 

[Lukingordex]

It´s best to make these characters as alt costumes,I really don´t want more clones.

 

[Arcadenik]

A bigger troll would be, Dr Mario, Dark Pit, Dark Samus, and Demis making into Smash 4 all as separate characters but all complete clones.

Let's hope Sakurai doesn't go that far... I cross the line at Toon Sheik. It should have been Tetra.

But I would have lulz when fans go into a collective nerd rage over Demise replacing Ganondorf, especially if Demise is the "decloned Ganondorf with a sword" fans had been begging for years.

 

[Metal Overlord]

Metal Sonic 4 Smash

 

[Deleted member]

Popularity trumps relevancy? Maybe, but when faced with time constraints? Then it is relevancy that trumps popularity. Ike > Roy. Lucario > Mewtwo. After all, Nintendo wants to attract potential customers to their new games through Smash. They did want to sell Fire Emblem Path of Radiance and Pokemon Diamond & Pearl more than they do with Fire Emblem Sword of Seals and Pokemon FireRed & LeafGreen. A business wants to sell the new products first before the old products. That's last-in, first-out. The LIFO method.

You really have issues with comphrehension, do you?

1. Lucario and Ike didn't replace Mewtwo and Roy. Get this out of your skull.
While they were both finished first, they weren't in OVER them, as Ike and Lucario were both finished prior to the time issues. You know who else was part of the time issues? Jigglypuff. Had Jigglypuff not make it, would you be arguing that Pokemon Trainer replaced her? When it all comes down to it, Jigglypuff was Mewtwo's biggest obstacle, not Lucario.

2. Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't SAKURAI in charge of characters, not NINTENDO?
Sakurai doesn't give a **** about trying to cater to what will help Nintendo in sales. Case in point, Mother; How is Lucas going to help Mother 3's sales, when GBA is dead, and the game is Japan exclusive? Anyone who gave a crap about Mother 3 has already got the game or has a Rom of it for their computer.
While Ike and Lucario were of outside influence, it was not like Sakurai was held at gunpoint and told to get rid of Roy and Mewtwo for not being relevant (otherwise, Jigglypuff would've been gone as well).
And Ike was merely SUGGESTED because Sakurai wanted a new FE character (which means anyone from after FE6, Roy's game) and didn't know who to pick. Don't act as though he included Ike because he was new and relevant, and would help boost sales, as it wasn't the case.

 

[Wizzrobe]

It´s best to make these characters as alt costumes,I really don´t want more clones.

The Melee characters that were cut out should not be used as alt costumes. They already made them playable characters in Melee so they might as well keep them.

Metal Sonic 4 Smash

YES! this would be great. I would much rather see this than see a generic Sonic character like Tails.

 

[Shorts]

In Japan, Mewtwo is the only character that is even in the same league as Roy in terms of requests. Mewtwo and Roy are basically S-tier in terms of requests (the Western analog would be Ridley and K. Rool). Roy may not be as requested as Mewtwo worldwide, but he is definitely among the most wanted characters for Smash 4 even in the West (and in the Top 2 in Japan).

Maybe on Smash sites, MAYBE. But when you take casuals into account, you know Mewtwo has more requests than Roy. I mean, it's Mewtwo.

 

[Deleted member]

With casuals that don't go on Smash sites, you really DON'T know what they're thinking or what they request.
I mean, it's not like you can read their minds or anything.

EDIT: For all we know, they could find Mewtwo to be overrated and request Godzilla a far more ton than him.