New Smash Bros for WiiU

[GiantBreadbug]

Actually, it did really poorly sales-wise. They gave it the New Play Control treatment in Japan, but that's the only region where the Wii version was ever released.

Short Answer: It isn't really a running series anymore. I'd be surprised (and delighted) if we got a proper sequel on wither the Wii U or 3DS, just because they've sold so poorly.

They also made 2 more games for the DS (which weren't quite as good, if you ask me), one of which was released outside of Japan.

They really are fantastic games. I can't imagine why people weren't buying them. I'd bet that you'd be hard pressed to find a copy of the Gamecube game anymore. But if you can find one, grab it.

 

[Diddy Kong]

If I'd want anything GameCube related its a controller. But I have no money so gotta forget about it.

 

[Johnknight1]

No one can guess who I use for all 3 games

Impa.

I thought you guys might like to read this. Rage, rage everywhere.

Meah, let's be honest, Indie Games suck more often than Japanese games. Angry Birds is an example of awful indie games that are blown out of proportion.

It's not necessarily the same situation with Roy.
What I am proposing, is that you can download a Genesect from Sm4sh into B/W/B2/W2 after you unlock it.
Like what Ranger did for Manaphy.

Yeah I get that, and that is a great B/W 2 promotion. I was merely stating that this was a promotional character like Roy, albeit different.

DK overall needs to be bigger, faster, and stronger too. Cuz you know, he's the first member of the DK Crew.

I lol'd hard at this!

Lol Cranky meeting Mario

Now THAT would be hulareous

I would pay to play such a game!

Also, wtf is with Wobbles lurking on this thread=??? Is he gonna post some stuff on how the Ice Climbers should play=???

 

[Starphoenix]

I think Chibi-Robo , would be the perfect addition. I mean, all the equipment he uses make for a perfect moveset. (Chibi-Copter, anyone?) :]

Plus I think this would be the best size for him, in comparison to Mario:

Small and Speedy

OH and hey guys, I'm somewhat new here

I would imagine him being a tad bigger, or at least the size of Olimar.

Plus who wouldn't like to fight in a living room?

 

[GiantBreadbug]

If you see someone with a copy of Chibi Robo, offer them your kindey. If you have one left.

Seriously.

 

[Big-Cat]

Forget fighting in a living room, I'd rather snowboard in a house.

Also, does anyone get a Mario Kart vibe from this song?

 

[Oasis_S]

Ehehehe... Chibi-Robo is so teensy he could ride on Joltik's back. :333

Spoiler

Like a Spider Jockey if you're PsychoIncarnate.

And I'm happy to find out that Ray is 8in/20.3cm. TWICE AS TALL AS CHEEBO, but still so tiny. :3

 

[Starphoenix]

I noticed Chibi's tail is rather long. Probably would need to have his tail shortened just a tad to make him a little less awkward. Although I could see his tail being used offensively in some ways. Maybe he would grab his tail and swing at someone with it?

 

[Oasis_S]

You should be able to grab Chibi-Robo's tail and hold on to it as he runs around to slow him down. :333


...What's with the Robo names in Custom Robo. Halberd? Wolfen? Oh well, I love it.

 

[Starphoenix]

You should be able to grab Chibi-Robo's tail and hold on to it as he runs around to slow him down. :333

Then they would have to have that option available for Yoshi and others too. Chibi Robo could also use his tail as a tether recovery.

 

[GiantBreadbug]

Then they would have to have that option available for Yoshi and others too. Chibi Robo could also use his tail as a tether recovery.

I was thinking that Telly Vision could follow Chibi around all the time and be incorporated into his moveset. His recovery would consist of him grabbing onto Telly and helicoptering up to the stage. I was also thinking that there could be a "charging" mechanic that could power up certain moves.

As for Chibi's size, he'd be one of those who you'd just have to totally make it up. How did they come up with Olimar's size? Well, he seems like a stout little man, even relative to the size of things around him. I would guess that Chibi should be about the height of Luigi.

 

[Johnknight1]

I like how we are talking about Chibi Robo. This is awesome. He would be a great character. I haven't played more than maybe an hour of two of any of his games, but I still love what he could offer to smash. He would be both random and awesome, which smash bros could always use!

 

[Starphoenix]

I was thinking that Telly Vision could follow Chibi around all the time and be incorporated into his moveset. His recovery would consist of him grabbing onto Telly and helicoptering up to the stage. I was also thinking that there could be a "charging" mechanic that could power up certain moves.

As for Chibi's size, he'd be one of those who you'd just have to totally make it up. How did they come up with Olimar's size? Well, he seems like a stout little man, even relative to the size of things around him. I would guess that Chibi should be about the height of Luigi.

I was thinking Telly would be a background character kind of floating around in the backdrop of a Chibi Robo stage. As for the size I agree, I think he would be a little taller.

My biggest thing holding me back with him originally is I did not know if he had enough material in his games to create an adequate and reasonable stage. Did my homework a little bit and found out he did and could. Those are things people have to think about too in some ways.

It's funny in a way. The way I learned about Chibi Robo was through Super Smash Bros Brawl. Never encouraged me to purchase his game, but it did let me know who he was.

 

[Oasis_S]

I did not know if he had enough material in his games to create an adequate and reasonable stage and he is probably dumb.

I am offended.

 

[Starphoenix]

I am offended.

Then you take this stuff way too personally, like some people; or better yet a lot of people. Just trying to say that I was not well versed in the Chibi Robo kingdom.

Tangent time. While a character is important there is also a matter of having supporting material that makes sense. Like you do not want to spend your time developing a character from a new series if there is not enough material to make a decent stage [looking at you Doshin the Giant]. Characters, stages, music; it all works together in a way. Which is why Sakurai on so many occasions has expressed the difficulty of both trying to properly represent each series, and make them all fit together somewhat cohesively.

Heh, found this on Facebook.
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Chibi-Robo-for-Super-Smash-Brothers-4/267303003287673

 

[Oasis_S]

Did your heart become so light that it floated away? >:

 

[GiantBreadbug]

Then you take this stuff way too personally, like some people; or better yet a lot of people. Just trying to say that I was not well versed in the Chibi Robo kingdom.

Tangent time. While a character is important there is also a matter of having supporting material that makes sense. Like you do not want to spend your time developing a character from a new series if there is not enough material to make a decent stage [looking at you Doshin the Giant]. Characters, stages, music; it all works together in a way. Which is why Sakurai on so many occasions has expressed the difficulty of both trying to properly represent each series, and make them all fit together somewhat cohesively.

Heh, found this on Facebook.
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Chibi-Robo-for-Super-Smash-Brothers-4/267303003287673

That's kinda something I try to keep in mind when the masses get my hopes down for Tom Nook or some other Animal Crossing character. I mean, it's sort of in reverse in terms of what you said, but there's all this material included in a massive way, then no playable rep. There's that old (and if you ask me, moronic) idea that only characters who are "good fighters" should be playable, but that's not what I think the highest priority is.

If a series is a big part of the Nintendo franchise, or something that is iconic or representative of the brand, then it has a reasonable shot at being playable. That's why I like Chibi. Animal Crossing is pretty huge for Nintendo, and giving the series a playable rep is a way of saying, "Animal Crossing is a big part of what we are here at Nintendo."

That poor Facebook page... It seems so lonely.

 

[ChronoBound]

@Chrono: If you're here, here's the world map for FE13, notice anything familiar? While it doesn't comfirm that the Masked Man is Marth, it certainly does help the theory's case. As a side note though, hears hoping to getting cameos from Alm and Celica.

The two continents looks similar to Akaneia (FE1/FE3/FE11/FE12) and Valencia (FE2). If it indeed takes place in the same world, I don't think it takes place in the same time period as those games. There are only three nations mentioned for the Akaneia-like continent and none of them were in Marth's games. As for Masked Marth, I have already stated that I think he/she is the one bearing the mark of the dark dragon.

Speaking of dragons, the name of the holy dragon, is Narga. Narga was the leader of the dragons in Marth's games (though deceased by the time those games took place). An interesting fact is that Narga was also in FE4 (FE4/FE5 do take place in the same world as the previous three FE games, but thousands of years in the past on a different continent). The dark dragon though, has a name that is not Medeus or Loputosu, so it could be a new evil dragon that wants to exterminate mankind. I am not sure whether the divine dragon Narga is the same being as the one in Akaneia and Jugdral, since Narga is already deceased by the time Marth's games take place. Perhaps its Tiki?

As for Liz, just as I predicted, GameFAQs is abandoning Sheeda and beginning gather around Liz. I think we need to enter my theory regarding the female Fire Emblem character bandwagon as part of the fanbase glossary for Smash Bros. speculation. The branched promotions is yet another feature brought back from Sacred Stones (FE8).

The two most prominent characters of FE13 seem to be Krom and Masked Marth. I think we will be learning more about Masked Marth soon. My prediction is that Masked Marth is not Marth but instead a new person. I also have another prediction, I will say that if FE13 does take place on Akaneia, that both Krom and Masked Marth will be hinted as being descendants of Marth.

 

[Starphoenix]

Did your heart become so light that it floated away? >:

Perhaps, carried away by Drifloons and Scarfys. I don't know, just my attempts at trying to explain my thoughts.

I also have another prediction, I will say that if FE13 does take place on Akaneia, that both Krom and Masked Marth will be hinted as being descendants of Marth.

Too late, the latest round of information is already insinuating Krom is the descendant of Marth.

 

[Oasis_S]

Krom should take Roy's moveset (and playstyle) to become what Roy used to be, and Roy should return in all his unique and interesting glory.

 

[ChronoBound]

Too late, the latest round of information is already insinuating Krom is the descendant of Marth.

I know of that. On the official FE13 website, Krom is referred to as being a descendant of the Holy King/Hero King which was Marth's title at the end of FE3/FE12.

 

[Starphoenix]

I know of that. On the official FE13 website, Krom is referred to as being a descendant of the Holy King/Hero King which was Marth's title at the end of FE3/FE12.

I'm going to hazard a guess, and we shall see if I'm right, but I am guessing based upon little pieces of my knowledge of how much time it takes for cities to change in name an geography that Awakening is going to take place about 150-200 years after the events of Marth's trilogy. It obviously isn't much farther in time or else this would be Advance Wars and not Fire Emblem from a technological standpoint. If recent historical trends are anything to go by anyways.

 

[Johnknight1]

As for Liz, just as I predicted, GameFAQs is abandoning Sheeda and beginning gather around Liz. I think we need to enter my theory regarding the female Fire Emblem character bandwagon as part of the fanbase glossary for Smash Bros. speculation. The branched promotions is yet another feature brought back from Sacred Stones (FE8).

Oh God, not the Fire Emblem women bandwagon!

Also, I'm not surprised Krom is a descendant of Marth. Actually, the thought of Krom and Marth fighting alongside each other (in Smash Bros) sounds pretty cool.

 

[---]

All I know is that the story of FE13 will definitely be interesting, especially since Marth's games never really gave much character development or insight about Akaneia and Valencia.

As for Krom and the Masked Man, Krom is more than likely going to end up as Marth's decendant, the Masked Man could go either way. It would make sense though, seeing as the remakes could have all been leading up to this game.

I am curious though, as to what everyone thinks about Krom now (assuming he is Marth's decendant).

And here we all thought that Ike would be replaced by this guy.

As for Liz, just as I predicted, GameFAQs is abandoning Sheeda and beginning gather around Liz. I think we need to enter my theory regarding the female Fire Emblem character bandwagon as part of the fanbase glossary for Smash Bros. speculation.

Gamefaqs, what a crazy place that is. I guess I'm the only true supporter left (not that I expect her at all).

 

[ChronoBound]

And here we all thought that Ike would be replaced by this guy.

From what the Japanese Smash fans have been saying about Krom, they are thinking he is going to replace Ike. I have even seem them comparing Ike to Krom in various ways. I saw one post even saying that he thinks the only two playable Fire Emblem characters are going to be Marth and Krom, though he later went on to say he would personally prefer Roy coming back and Ike staying.

 

[Johnknight1]

I think it is cool that Krom is Marth's descendant. He is looking like a good smash bros playable character prospect. I definitely think after Marth and Ike, he's gonna be up there with Roy in terms of priority.

I think because there are multiple Lords in Fire Emblem 7 or 8 (and thus there was no clear "main character") is the reason why none of the Lords from said games were considered as characters Intelligent Systems would suggest to Sakurai. I also think that Fire Emblem 2, 4, and 5 being Japanese-only takes them out of the equation, especially given that the two Lords of the other Japanese-only Fire Emblem games (Marth and Roy) have already been playable in smash.

Ultimately, I think this all comes down to Marth and Ike getting in, plus Krom and/or Roy getting in... assuming we don't get another (sole) main character Lord in a recent game. No one else I think will even get considered, unless Sakurai wants to add a random Fire Emblem Lord of his choice!

 

[Starphoenix]

Oh God, not the Fire Emblem women bandwagon!

Also, I'm not surprised Krom is a descendant of Marth. Actually, the thought of Krom and Marth fighting alongside each other (in Smash Bros) sounds pretty cool.

Which would be rather weird since they both use the same sword. Somehow though the version of Falchion Krom uses looks different. Not sure if that is just because of a difference in design or if it is intentional.

I love having "theme" matches, so having a descendent-ancestor match would be cool for me.

 

[GiantBreadbug]

Krom: *sees Marth on the battlefield* Wait, aren't you, like, my great great great great grandfather? How did you get here? How did I get here? Who are these people?

Marth: Umm... Time travel. Or something. Y'know what, just fight.

 

[ChronoBound]

It would be even more awkward if Roy and Lyn were playable.

Roy: Hey mom, how did you get so young and beautiful again?

Lyn:....

 

[Starphoenix]

I was going to say that I did not think we had any characters in Super Smash Bros that were relate, but then I remembered Mario and Luigi. lol

Personally it really does not bother me what happens to the Fire Emblem crew. I just like Ike because he is my main and his playstyle is most comfortable to me. Marth is my favorite, but I do not have to worry about him going anywhere. Unlike Mewtwo.

 

[---]

It's funny how interesting Krom has suddenly become, although this can be said mostly due to the prospect of his connection to Marth.

Hopefully we'll see Krom for himself, rather than a decendant, when we get some more infomation about his exclusive skills and promotion gains. I'd hate to say it, but (IMO) he looking at becoming a much larger threat to Roy than we previously thought (it'll take a lot to beat that flame sword though ).

I'm off to bed. Later.

 

[ChronoBound]

I wonder what what will happen if Masked Marth turns out to be female...

 

[---]

Well before I go, I just looked and it says for some DLC chapters, characters from past FE games will make appearances...

 

[Johnknight1]

Which would be rather weird since they both use the same sword. Somehow though the version of Falchion Krom uses looks different. Not sure if that is just because of a difference in design or if it is intentional.

It's probably been hundreds of years, so I think it has probably been modified several times.

I love having "theme" matches, so having a descendent-ancestor match would be cool for me.

Yeah, and this traces back to the Melee Event Matches. Mario against Bowser, Mario and Peach against Giant Bowser, Link and Zelda vs. Ganondorf, Link vs. Young Link, you vs. Fox and Falco, you vs. Marth and Roy, you vs. the baddies (Ganondorf, Mewtwo, Giga Bowser), etc. This is what can help make Event Matches, the story mode, and smash bros overall feel so great.

If there is a story mode, there really needs to be a Sonic vs. Mario battle, PERIOD! SHUT UP! MAKE IT HAPPEN!

Also, make Mega Man want to be like Link just like what he said in his (Bara Man) Street Fighter vs. Tekken storyline.

It would be even more awkward if Roy and Lyn were playable.

Roy: Hey mom, how did you get so young and beautiful again?

Lyn:....

It would be more like this...

@ Chrono
If the Masked Marth-esk character is a female, PREPARE FOR WAR!!!

@ Triple Dash
I'm not surprised. Fire Emblem fans, myself included, have been clamoring for that. I got a feeling Marth will be involved...

 

[Starphoenix]

Well before I go, I just looked and it says for some DLC chapters, characters from past FE games will make appearances...

In a strange roundabout way all of the lords show up again. Guess their all relevant now and therefore likely to be in the next Smash Bros.

 

[Johnknight1]

Speculation would be a lot more fun if every character was playable...

...which is why Mii is running for President in 2012 a Super Smash Bros. roster spot!

 

[ChronoBound]

I don't think every lord is going to show up as DLC for FE13. I definitely think Marth will show up though.

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

Love the "sexy" part. That'd be hilarious.

...Then again, FE has incest, so...

But on a serious note, I'd love for, if we had 3, it was Marth, Hector, Lyn. All really neat choices to me.

 

[Oasis_S]

I hope Ephraim and Eirika are DLC for FE13. Disfunk will be so happy. :3

 

[Johnknight1]

I don't think every lord is going to show up as DLC for FE13. I definitely think Marth will show up though.

I wouldn't count out the Lords of the other Fire Emblem that take place in the same world.

As a personally hope, I would love to see Ike transition to a handheld Fire Emblem game (both versions preferably, but either will do).