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[Propeller Toad]

At the very least, he COULD be a DLC, just in case. o.o

True, which is inevitable for the upcoming Smash games. I only really removed him due to the lack of space in my roster. I might rotate some things around (I need to get Wario to a better position and consider some Zelda/FE reps as well). I don't think Lucario is a bad character, and I still do like him so I wouldn't completely close the door on him.

 

[Diddy Kong]

Anyways , you seem so damn sure Krom won't represented.... and yea I remembered something Fire Emblem in SSB = fan-service to Japanese people which mean it wouldn't matter if it was in west or not...

The opposite is true actually.

Ike wasn't really all that popular in Japan actually. He was mostly requested by COUNTRIES POSITIONED MORE IN THE MORE WESTERN PART OF THE HEMISPHERE FROM JAPAN. If they wanted to please Japan the most, Roy would've stayed or got priority over Ike.

 

[Deleted member]

Anyways , you seem so damn sure Krom won't represented.... and yea I remembered something Fire Emblem in SSB = fan-service to Japanese people which mean it wouldn't matter if it was in west or not...

And you seem so damn intent on remaining ignorant, by calling me out and merely quoting the stupid attempt that Diddy Kong made to dodge my statement.
And no, if you actually paid attention, you would see that I'm not saying Krom won't be "represented". What I'm saying is that Diddy is giving Krom too much credit over the fact that he's fresh meat and has a popular Seiyuu.
And I'm bringing my statement that Leaf should be in over Krom. Not that he will.

And with that statement, you only added to the arsenal of why Roy is more likely than Krom. It doesn't matter that his game wasn't on Western shores, he's pretty damn popular and is most requested of all Fire Emblem characters that are not Marth or Ike. And this is only factoring the Eastern fanbase.

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

Sakurai makes sure games are now in every area before repping them in Smash. He actually regretted the Fire Emblem stuff being in Melee, and vowed to always make sure it's universal games for any character.

Music and Stickers are fair game for Region-Only though. As they're much less important.

Also, Roy's game doesn't have to be released worldwide for Roy to get in. Krom won't be competition unless he actually BECOMES popular within the game itself. We don't even know anything besides him reminding us of Ike at best. Theory and Hype really don't help either. Be patient and wait to see results before judging. Honestly, the worst that could happen is that he's an Ike clone and becomes one of Ike's costumes. The best is that he might be considered, but that's not even likely at all. It's pretty much "could happen", not even close to "would happen".

 

[Conviction]

@Diddy:

Just to make sure me and Golden weren't wrong I looked it up. Not stop hammering on something you are actually wrong about. It's even in history that the AMERICAs are the Western Hemisphere. Check the Monroe Declaration, it states that (back in Early U.S. times) that if Europeans tried to colonize the Western Hemisphere any further they would have to deal with the U.S.

Here's the Eastern Hemisphere

 

[Diddy Kong]

Impa really should be in over Sheik. That she will is still being ignored however...

But whatever.

I have a new motto now. When things get ugly: call on Anthony Higgs!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=twRjZjhjV4A

Spoilers for Other M in the video.

 

[Deleted member]

Sakurai makes sure games are now in every area before repping them in Smash. He actually regretted the Fire Emblem stuff being in Melee, and vowed to always make sure it's universal games for any character.

Music and Stickers are fair game for Region-Only though. As they're much less important.

Also, Roy's game doesn't have to be released worldwide for Roy to get in. Krom won't be competition unless he actually BECOMES popular within the game itself. We don't even know anything besides him reminding us of Ike at best. Theory and Hype really don't help either. Be patient and wait to see results before judging. Honestly, the worst that could happen is that he's an Ike clone and becomes one of Ike's costumes. The best is that he might be considered, but that's not even likely at all. It's pretty much "could happen", not even close to "would happen".

This. Even more so in the fact he considered cutting Marth and Roy for the Western and PAL releases of Melee.

 

[xXIke-SamaXx]

The opposite is true actually.

Ike wasn't really all that popular in Japan actually. He was mostly requested by COUNTRIES POSITIONED MORE IN THE MORE WESTERN PART OF THE HEMISPHERE FROM JAPAN. If they wanted to please Japan the most, Roy would've stayed or got priority over Ike.

Nor actually true...Sakurai intended for Roy to say but I think because of time constrains he dropped because he couldn't code moveset for him and several other characters such as Mewtwo, and he went with Ike because he needed a new character for SSBB from fire emblem so Intellegent system pushed Ike, because I believe intelligent system were proud of Ike character and wanted him to advertise for the new games (that's why you see the shadow of Ike in Krom) and after all Path of Radiance and Radiant Dawn were the games they wanted to make.

 

[Deleted member]

Impa really should be in over Sheik. That she will is still being ignored however...

But whatever.

I have a new motto now. When things get ugly: call on Anthony Higgs!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=twRjZjhjV4A

Spoilers for Other M in the video.

Ima steal that motto too. As I support Higgs.

 

[Oasis_S]

Are we really arguing what East and West is here.

 

[Conviction]

It's not the fact that people don't think Kuromu won't make it into Smash it's just most users on here aren't ready to support something that hasn't come out (i.e. Genosect)

@Oasis: I had to make sure! It would be bad to pass AP World History and mess up Something Simple as that LOL

 

[xXIke-SamaXx]

It's not the fact that people don't think Kuromu won't make it into Smash it's just most users on here are ready to support something that hasn't come out (i.e. Genosect)

@Oasis: I had to make sure! It would be bad to pass AP World History and mess up Something Simple as that LOL

well from where I live you are all considered westerns to me because I'm from Dubai...

 

[Diddy Kong]

TO ALL THE ANTHONY HATERS:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5ZKxnBqfrI&feature=related

Spoiler

You got no style!

 

[Conviction]

well from where I live you are all considered westerns to me because I'm from Dubai...

Middle East right?

 

[xXIke-SamaXx]

Middle East right?

Yep ....

 

[Metal Overlord]

Dark Samus > Anthony Higgs

 

[Conviction]

What the hell is that Metal...where are you finding these?? LOL

 

[Diddy Kong]

Mo, get back to my last post.

Otherwise... Damn, Anthony is right.

YOU GOT NO STYLE!

Spoiler

Don't ya know how to treat a lady?

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

This. Even more so in the fact he considered cutting Marth and Roy for the Western and PAL releases of Melee.

To say the least, it's great he didn't. On the other hand, you think he would've added in, say, Little Mac and King Hippo to the Western release?

Also, I guess people don't realize that Western refers to Canada, North America, South America, and Mexico in general.(I may have said something redundant here)

Asia is actually part of Japan, or is often considered the part of it depending the Company, I guess. But they're part of the East directly. And then there's the UK/Middle East.

Etc. Western just means two specific continents. Plain and simple.

 

[Metal Overlord]

@Iblis- trolololo from another forum, also that's from that Pokemon Live! concert from way back

@Diddy- Who needs style when you got Brock with an afro

 

[Oasis_S]

Style without Style.

Using no way as a way.

Be like water, my friend.

Bruce Lee was the Strongest in the whole world.

 

[Deleted member]

To say the least, it's great he didn't. On the other hand, you think he would've added in, say, Little Mac and King Hippo to the Western release?

Heavily doubt it. We would've just had Marth and Roy gone. No replacements.

 

[Diddy Kong]

Even Luigi doesn't like Anthony...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VCFirUbjXcU&feature=related

Bruce Lee ain't got nothing on MANthony. How can you be the strongest, yet fail to his MANlyness?

 

[Deleted member]

Sure, Manthony is great, but he's got nothin' on MANdana Dee.

 

[Conviction]

Style without Style.

Using no way as a way.

Be like water, my friend.

Bruce Lee was the Strongest in the whole world.

Poetic Oasis?

@Iblis- trolololo from another forum, also that's from that Pokemon Live! concert from way back

Oh god that looks horrible V___V

 

[Diddy Kong]

Sure, Manthony is great, but he's got nothin' on MANdana Dee.

You found yourself in troubling waters now my friend...

I now demand a MANthony vs the lesser manly MANdana Dee Smash match vs you if it's possible when Sm4sh is out.

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

Heavily doubt it. We would've just had Marth and Roy gone. No replacements.

I don't know. I doubt he'd give us less slots overall. One thing's like the Masterpieces or Trophies or Music, all unimportant to actual gameplay(Music helps, but is far from required), but removing characters is a very huge thing, as would courses. He does take the Western and UK areas into account now, so...

Also, if he didn't take them into account, Ness would've left for Lucas, since he was Japan-Only and indeed extremely popular. I don't know who would've made normal replacements if that were the case. I think those two made perfect sense, though.

 

[Diddy Kong]

Ness WOULD have left for Lucas in Melee if Mother 3 was released on N64 as planned. Luckily we had both...

 

[Deleted member]

@Diddy: With pleasure. "One little spear is all I need!"

@HyperFalcon: At the time of Melee, Earthbound 64 was going to be released out of Japan.
It wasn't until it was postponed into Mother 3 for the GBA that it ended up being Japan-Only.
Lucas was planned for Melee when he wasn't technically Japan-Only.

And while yes, he's somewhat more lenient now, remember that we're talking a Melee hypothetical. If he went with his decision to cut Marth and Roy outside of Japan, I assure you, there would not have been replacements. This is due to the fact that he would have to spend more time to make characters that Japan doesn't get, which would make Japanese players pissed.

 

[Conviction]

I don't think I would have bought any FE games if they didn't have Roy and Marth in Melee.

 

[Metal Overlord]

@Iblis- Lol yeah, one reason I never liked cosplay as a whole hahaha

Anthony Higgs reminds me of Miles Dyson (was that his name) in Terminator 2 for some reason

 

[Diddy Kong]

I don't think I would have bought any FE games if they didn't have Roy and Marth in Melee.

Neither would.. Like 70% of the people I'm guessing.

Anthony cannot be compared to anyone. Get that out of your mind Mo...

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

@HyperFalcon: At the time of Melee, Earthbound 64 was going to be released out of Japan.
It wasn't until it was postponed into Mother 3 for the GBA that it ended up being Japan-Only.
Lucas was planned for Melee when he wasn't technically Japan-Only.

True. But it's also possible that he wasn't replaced because it became Japan-Only. But eh, theories.

And while yes, he's somewhat more lenient now, remember that we're talking a Melee hypothetical. If he went with his decision to cut Marth and Roy outside of Japan, I assure you, there would not have been replacements. This is due to the fact that he would have to spend more time to make characters that Japan doesn't get, which would make Japanese players pissed.

And American players pissed they didn't get Marth or Roy. Appealing to one region but not the other would've hurt sales just as much. I don't agree that there's no chances he would've put in someone else. Even if it was something stupid like other pointless clones, like making the Wire Frames playable.(which they're watered down versions of Zelda and Falcon, who are better) Who knows what could've happened. I don't believe one or the other, really.

But my question is this; If Marth and Roy weren't put in, who would you choose?

 

[Diddy Kong]

Marth and Roy not in Melee? Gimme Diddy Kong and Wario / Meta Knight or King DeDeDe then.

But I'd rather would've got rid of Dr.Mario and Young Link or Pichu.

 

[Sephirothxxx]

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[Deleted member]

True. But it's also possible that he wasn't replaced because it became Japan-Only. But eh, theories.



And American players pissed they didn't get Marth or Roy. Appealing to one region but not the other would've hurt sales just as much. I don't agree that there's no chances he would've put in someone else. Even if it was something stupid like other pointless clones, like making the Wire Frames playable.(which they're watered down versions of Zelda and Falcon, who are better) Who knows what could've happened. I don't believe one or the other, really.

But my question is this; If Marth and Roy weren't put in, who would you choose?

American players wouldn't even know who Marth and Roy were.
Most likely, and don't quote me on this, Giga Bowser would've been playable in lieu of Marth and Roy. I mean think about it. He works like everyone else, except he's larger and can't be grabbed, he has an announcer call, he's a clone , and he caters to the American stereotype that they like killer dinosaurs. .

 

[Metal Overlord]

Probably Charizard and Blastoise

 

[Diddy Kong]

Americans don't like killer dinosaurs as much as Japan loves their Godzilla...

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

Giga Bowser is totally doable as a clone of Bowser. But who for the other one? Also, let me rephrase; What character that is Western-only OR is ridiculously popular in the West(but nowhere else) would you have chosen? Keep in mind I'm looking for realistic enough answers. Also, maybe Master Hand?

@Diddy: I could see the Kirby guys, but Diddy Kong still had issues and wouldn't have made it in anyway.

 

[Conviction]

Yeah, I think it was smart economically to not do region-only characters. I can see, people who bought Melee imported from Japan and then the people didn't get mad hype and by the U.S. verision, especially if there was no caliderale (I think I spelled that wrong LOL), mad people would go off the walls.

I don't think Smash is a game where region only characters would benefit it. It would be understandable if it came out on multiple platforms and pulled a Soul Caliber.