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Wario World's was cool as well. Quite frankly, I was surprised that it wasn't used when I first heard his Brawl one, considering that I didn't think WarioWare had any type of available fanfare.
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Wow, I missed you. We need you around moreHa. Ha ha ha. No.
I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks Groose has already become older than Chuck Norris jokes.
I guess what I'm trying to say is that Zoroark has plenty of potential to be his own character. At least to the point where he can't really be termed a Lucario/Mewtwo replacement.
ThisAll the more reason?
I read that **** three times and couldn't find any reasons
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Then by all means, Black Shadow will be in Sm4sh because he's voiced by frigging NORIO WAKAMOTO in F-Zero GP Legend.Krom chances are sky rocketing for he might become the most popular Fire Emblem character in the franchise because as alot of you know Seiyuus (Voice Actors) in Japan are a very big deal and this game will have voice acting.....Krom's voice actor is Tomokazu Sugita a very popular voice actor in japan and he is known for his workin Gintama as the protagonist "Sakata Gintoki" and he is the japanese voice actor of "Ragna the Bloodedge" from Blazblue.
Roy doesn't stand a chance ibefore Ike not mentioning Krom where everything seems to be going his way....Krom might even replace Ike for him having a similar fighting style (and I don't really care as long the essence of Ike gameplay is present than it wouldn't make a difference).
Well w8 a second Black shadow had his chance before but he didn't make it but Krom is new and fresh and this new Fire Emblem seems to be going main-stream...Then by all means, Black Shadow will be in Sm4sh because he's voiced by frigging NORIO WAKAMOTO in F-Zero GP Legend.
Will you change your username to xXKrom-SamaXx if Ike's replaced?Roy doesn't stand a chance ibefore Ike not mentioning Krom where everything seems to be going his way....Krom might even replace Ike for him having a similar fighting style (and I don't really care as long the essence of Ike gameplay is present than it wouldn't make a difference).
Not at all I'm all the way Ike fan but I'm preparing myself for the tragedy :D and I've been Ike fan since the launch of Path of Radiance (which I bought Day 1 in 2005) and I wouldn't mind Krom replacing Ike anyway because Ike will always be on the top of my list :D I'm praying that they don't replace though but If he didn't make at least his moveset does xD.Will you change your username to xXKrom-SamaXx if Ike's replaced?
I still say Leaf > Krom.
Get some Jugdral action goin' on.
No. No it wasn't.Was that supposed to be a joke xD ?
Leaf is as generic an FE lord can be.....you know what will seal the deal if Krom replacing Ike ? having a Aether as a Skill....No. No it wasn't.![]()
Well it's set for a European release....No. No it wasn't.
@Diddy: Well, guess until Kakusei is out in America, Krom's out as well.![]()
Check Japan.(Nobody uses her in Brawl lololol)
Yes, because a Lord that can use not just a sword, but a lance, axe, bow, staff, Fire Magic, Thunder Magic, Wind Magic, and Light Magic is clearly as generic as a bunch of blue haired guys with swords.Leaf is as generic an FE lord can be.....you know what will seal the deal if Krom replacing Ike ? having a Aether as a Skill....
Doesn't matter. He specifically said "Western". "Western" means America.Well it's set for a European release....
...with the exception of Balloon Fighter and maybe Lip, plus the fact you want to replace Solid Snake with Naked Snake (to be later known as Big Boss) and removed Lucario to bring forth Martini, it actually looks like a solid roster here.Since we there has been quite a few roster discussions lately, I decided to pop in my own roster and see how well it is received. Here is my roster so far:
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My reasoning for the newcomers and choices are found below. Note that I have a habit of giving reasons for my choices (warning - it is long):
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Super Mario Bros. series:
*Newcomer: Toad
- My reasoning for Toad is pretty much covered all in here (in the Toad Essay):
http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=12843555&postcount=2
Donkey Kong series:
*Newcomer: King K. Rool
- As the main villain for the first three successful Donkey Kong Country games, King K. Rool has played an important role in Nintendo's history. He has potential to being a very unique character and as well as being the main villain for the DK series (one of Nintendo's best selling franchises).
*Newcomer: Dixie Kong
- After some consideration, I do see that Dixie Kong herself is also an important character in the DK series and would complete the DK Country series main protagonists (Kiddy Kong is not as historic as Dixie is). I feel that the DK series is worth for two newcomers, so Dixie is a good choice after K. Rool himself.
Yoshi series:
*Newcomer: None
- I'm fairly sure that Yoshi is the only needed representative for his own series.
Wario series:
*Newcomer: None
- The Wario series could take a newcomer; however, I really only feel that Captain Syrup might have a chance (though we do not know how much Wario Land references to expect in the next game). Most WarioWare characters seem to be on the same level of importance as of now as well. Perhaps time or criticism might change my mind; however, I still feel Wario is only really needed.
Also if you were wondering about Wario's odd placement with the Zelda characters, this was because of a last minute decision of adding Dixie Kong into my roster. As I did not have a Zelda newcomer at the time, I just placed Wario here for the time being.
The Legend of Zelda series:
*Newcomer: None
- While I do agree that the Zelda series is deserving for another character, I just am unsure with who can take that spot. Characters like Ghirahim are popular; however, it is difficult to see how vital he is to the entire Zelda series and whether or not he is another one shot like Midna was.
Tingle has his chances; however, he seems to have disappeared from the Zelda series in terms of actual appearances (he does have his own games; however, I still don't know how far that will take him for now). Impa is still a character I also feel unsure about as well. Then there is also Toon Zelda to consider as well. Perhaps in time, I might get an idea of who to add, but for now I will leave the Zelda series on hold for a newcomer.
Metroid series:
*Newcomer: Ridley
- I think it has been discussed enough that Ridley is the most deserving out of the remaining Metroid characters. He's the only Metroid character who I personally feel has a chance of making it in (despite his "size" issues).
Kid Icarus series:
*Newcomer: Palutena
- Palutena might seem like a fighter in comparison to Medusa; however, she is extremely iconic and even important to the series. She seems to have a big role in Uprising, and I personally believe that if they could give Zelda a moveset pre-melee (when she never fought in a game before), then Palutena has a good chance of being in Smash herself as well.
Medusa is my close second pick for a Kid Icarus rep. I added Palutena for the reasons above instead of Medusa (who can also be interesting).
Punch-Out series: (New)
*Newcomer: Little Mac
- Little Mac and his series have been rather popular, and with his recent revival, I think that he has a decent shot of getting into SSB4. He is also capable of bringing in a unique style of fighting as well to Smash.
Kirby series:
*Newcomer: Bandanna Waddle Dee
- While the Kirby series is already rather complete with the main trio, Waddle Dee himself is also a rather notable character from the series. He has been featured as an important character in various games and has become even recognizable in the general Kirby media. Waddle Dee has also been featured as the next most recurring playable character after the main three. I also believe that his spear can bring in quite a lot of unique potential to Smash Bros.. He's not needed, but he would still be interesting to have.
Pikmin series:
*Newcomer: None
- I think Olimar and the Pikmin satisfies the series so far. I would like to see another Louie appearance before I can consider him for now. Perhaps Pikmin 3 might change my mind, but for now Olimar and Pikmin seem enough to me at least.
Star Fox series:
*Newcomer: None
- I personally think the Star Fox series already overindulged in the amount of characters it could receive in Brawl. Yes, the series does have interesting and developed characters; however, as of now we already have a more than satisfying roster. Perhaps a new Star Fox game might give more insight, but for now I think we have enough.
I considered Krystal slightly; however, I still do not think she is as worthy as the main three for now.
F-Zero series:
*Newcomer: None
- I considered Goroh quite a bit; however, for now I did not add a newcomer. I think Falcon will suffice for now though a newcomer is inviteable. We'll see...
Xenoblade Chronicles: (New)
*Newcomer: Shulk
- Well he is a new Nintendo protagonist from a new series that has potential to become popular (which is what Sakurai wanted). I think he has a chance.
Pokemon series:
*Returning: Mewtwo
*Newcomer: Victini
- I personally believe Mewtwo has a strong chance of returning this time around. Sakurai seems to have worked with Mewtwo the most and many were disappointed with his absence. He still has relevance so I will say that he has a good chance of returning.
-Victini has become a rather recognizable Pokemon of the 5th generation and has become popular thanks to its two movies. I personally think that it would be interesting to see. I removed Lucario for a new gen rep; however, I still think he has his chances. Perhaps he might get added back in a future roster, but for now I see a new gen having more priority over the 4th.
Fire Emblem series:
*Newcomer: None
- Fire Emblem is very similar to Zelda in this case for a newcomer choice. At this point of time, I am unsure of who will be more likely to be added. Roy has a good chance of returning as he still has worldwide recognition thanks to Melee and was a protagonist of his own game. Then there is also Krom who we know very little about. There are others like Lyn, Caeda; however, it starts to get iffy after this. So far, I feel Marth and Ike will likely return; however, the newcomer I am not sure about. Perhaps some suggestions might help though I am waiting to see until the new FE game is released.
Note that I will add a FE character in time (sees the active topic of FE character); however, so far I am unsure of who to add.
Mother series:
*Newcomer: None
- I feel that the Mother series is satisfied with the amount of reps it has for now. Though I think Lucas has the potential of getting more unique Mother 3 moves (my opinion).
Golden Sun series: (New)
*Newcomer: Issac
- The Golden Sun series has become recognized especially after Brawl, and I think Issac is a notable character to add considering his appearances and his cameo in Brawl. He would be interesting to see.
Retro Game series:
*Newcomer: Lip
*Newcomer: Balloon Fighter
- I feel that criticism will occur from here on out. For Lip's inclusion, I feel that she is a worthy character who can rep Nintendo's puzzle games which have been long lived. She isn't exactly retro; however, she still does have a history as well as a potential unique fighting style. Her appearance can also surprise quite a few people as well.
- Balloon Fighter is very much one of the more recognizable retro characters who has yet to be in Smash. I am well aware that Sakurai shot down the idea of the Balloon Fighter in the pre-melee days; however, that does not mean that he is completely out of the picture. He still has a chance for a unique moveset, and there are ways to get around his balloon popping problem. I still think he has a chance and his retro appearance would be matching to that of the ICs and possibly ROB.
Third Party:
*Newcomer: Megaman
*Newcomer: Slime
- I think Megaman is self explanatory. He had a long history with Nintendo and I think he will be the best rep for Capcom as a result of this as well as his mascot like status.
- I know that Slime will probably be the most criticized character in my roster; however, I do feel that in spite of his limbless body and simpleness, that he actually has a stronger chance than most of us think. Square has had a very strong relation with Nintendo as of recently and with games like Itadaki Street DS, Mario Hoops, MSM, Fortune Street, etc, we could very well get a Square-Enix rep. The DQ series has also had a strong relationship with Nintendo especially and with Slime being the mascot of that series along with his own games, he could very well be playable. He proved to being able to play sports in MSM and is also very popular in Japan. Indeed, he has a chance.
Considered characters:
*A Zelda rep
*Medusa (either her or Palutena though I decided with the latter for now)
*A FE rep (either Roy or Krom)
*Mii (I understand the demand for it; however, I just was not sure if whether adding the Miis were a good choice or not).
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I know this is a long explanation; however, I am ready to accept criticism for my roster. In fact, comments would be appreciated.![]()
Well he was portrayed as sword wielding lord and he is noble and his style is same as Marth's and I don't think Sakurai will care about something other than the image.....Ike in the other hand can use axes but he is still portrayed as a sword wielding lord, and his style is different the way he is using swords is different than a noble-snot such as leaf...Yes, because a Lord that can use not just a sword, but a lance, axe, bow, staff, Fire Magic, Thunder Magic, Wind Magic, and Light Magic is clearly as generic as a bunch of blue haired guys with swords.
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I disagree. They would transform halfway through their attack. Basically it would be the down B transformation with a shield variant for each character.Wouldn't work for a transforming character as Sheik, as transformation is the only way to tag between them. But for Impa, it's perfectly viable.
Well now I understand "you are an American".....Doesn't matter. He specifically said "Western". "Western" means America.
He thinks Roy's game as well as the Jugdral series need to be released in America, then he should wait until Kakusei is released in America before he rides Krom's ****.
The ways he said showed how narrow minded and others disregarding he can be...I'm not even American. Thank you very much... :/ (Directed at GoldenY)
Thanks for the input. Also I did not mean to replace Snake with Naked Snake. I actually thought that this artwork was still regular Snake. I really do not know much about the Metal Gear series; however, just know that it is Snake who I am keeping and not replacing him....with the exception of Balloon Fighter and maybe Lip, plus the fact you want to replace Solid Snake with Naked Snake (to be later known as Big Boss) and removed Lucario to bring forth Martini, it actually looks like a solid roster here.
Funny thing: I am being accused of doing just that.The ways he said showed how narrow minded and others disregarding he can be...
Are you kidding me?The ways he said showed how narrow minded and others disregarding he can be...
Anyways , you seem so damn sure that Krom won't be represented in SSB4.... and I remembered something, Fire Emblem in SSB = fan-service for Japanese people, which mean it would never matter if it was localized or not...Who cares for damn systems? We have games to pay attention to.![]()
At the very least, he COULD be a DLC, just in case. o.oThanks for the input. Also I did not mean to replace Snake with Naked Snake. I actually thought that this artwork was still regular Snake. I really do not know much about the Metal Gear series; however, just know that it is Snake who I am keeping and not replacing him.
As for Lucario I am unsure of how much more he can represent now; however, I am not completely forgetting him so we'll see. I had a feeling that the retros might be controversial though (yet, I still think they have at least a decent shot - well maybe more so for Lip at least).
Make his Down B make him pull twin swords. Making his character even more diverse. 2 moveset in one character you know?Ganondorf is slowly evolving along the series to an individual fighter. I like the atmosphere he conveys (that in itself is unique among the fighters). He only needs his own smashes and special variants to be complete.
I say, keep his side B. It is very different from Captain Falcon's side B both in utility and in flavor. C. Falcon offers a guerilla attack, while Ganondorf dominates his enemy either with a choke or an aerial slam.
Idea for an Up B Variant: Ganondorf performs the taunt animation where he completes one villanous spin, laughs, and floats. The move propels him two character lengths upwards and gives him super armor frames like Snake's Up B during this part of the sequence. He then gains the ability to move fast in the air ala Pit.
He is allowed one long aerial dodge in this mode (which is of longer duration and length than his regular dodge) If he is hit after the super armor frames are gone during his vertical surge, he does not gain his Up B back.
An aerial attack out of the move is allowed but ends his controllable float.
This gives Ganondorf considerable aerial movement to compensate for his slow run.
Idea for B variant: Ganondorf performs his warlock punch at half speed. Much weaker, but has high priority at the end, eating through most other attacks.
HOWEVER, during the initial animation the player can click B again. If he does this, instead Ganondorf will throw a large aura sphere of energy. It goes far and cannot be used again until it disappears to avoid spamming. Ganondorf does not gain priority during this version and the ball can be hit back toward him.
Each hit makes the ball larger, faster, and requires higher damage to be sent back once again.