New Smash Bros for WiiU

[Shorts]

@Shorts: I never saw your precious movie, but I heard the Janitor from Scrubs was in it.

Meh? Maybe. It's sort of one of those movies where you have to be: A Girl, Gay, or REALLY ****ed up to like.

Now, back to Girl, INTERRUPTED.

"Omg so like me and Chazz-"

"SHHHHHHHHHHH!"

*Movie ends*

 

[nLiM8d]

THE PERFECT IRONY

MWAH ha ha!

 

[Berserker.]

And he got kinda pissed when I spell checked him too much

 

[Conviction]

It's K Beserk, I went in on him too about his spelling.

 

[Disfunkshunal]

XD he would always rage when someone commented on his spelling. It's like dude, spell right and we'll leave you alone

 

[Berserker.]

OH. Hi disfunctional :D

I did the same for..... Hm.... Omega

 

[Shorts]

XD he would always rage when someone commented on his spelling. It's like dude, spell right and we'll leave you alone

It's more like, dude, don't be an idiot. I think I put him on my ignore list? Is swordless still around posting BS?

Excited Biker. I like.

 

[nLiM8d]

Oh meggy, XD

No one rages like he does.

 

[Oasis_S]

Excited Biker. I like.

Mission complete.

 

[Berserker.]

Swordless was banned. HF reported him.

 

[Conviction]

LOL too many good memories!

 

[nLiM8d]

Get ready for the haterain.

We took this one past the seashore.

 

[Berserker.]

........ The thread is still alive and open ..........

*Waits*

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

Hey, the guy was clearly spamming, sooooo... and he clearly didn't want to contribute anymore.

Anyway, not much else to say. Any new moveset ideas?

 

[Conviction]

I still miss the Chris the most. He was the like the troll MVP

 

[JavaCroc]

Oh meggy, XD

No one rages like he does.

Omega? If so, I would have to agree.

Anyways, let's try to get some on-topic discussion going. Everyone loves suggesting Giygas as a boss for SSB4, but then everyone gives him a generic "hit him a couple times and he dies" attack pool. BORING. Giygas deserves better.

Here's my idea for how Giygas would attack:

Here's a boss concept for Giygas of the Mother series.



Well, I've thought of Giygas serving as a sort of power source for the operations of the villains in the game. He was stuck in the Devil's Machine for most of Earthbound to contain his tremendous power. Perhaps the villains take advantage of this and hook up his machine as a power source.

At some point in the story - preferably one featuring Ness -, Giygas breaks out of his machine somehow and appears in his normal "form".

As I've said before, this battle should be anything but normal. You can't directly attack Giygas - his form morphs and distorts in the background. But Giygas can attack you. He can take the form of your allies - albeit with a unique effect where anyone he mimics consists only of a dark red outline and a sort of mist forming within where there is normally solid body. He also attacks you with his trademark "You cannot grasp the true form of Giygas's attack!", complete with text box and a flash of light that inflicts heavy damage and knockback on the opponent.

You can't even try to attack him. If you attack just once, a countdown starts and your characters begins glowing a dark red hue. The more you attack, the quicker this countdown passes. At the end of the countdown, the characters transforms into his/her trophy form and subsequently shatters, pieces falling every which way.

And the only way to defeat him is to refuse to fight. No matter how many times Giygas pummels you, you must remain still. If you do so, your character begins praying to whomever they befriended or love. For example, if Mario is praying, the cutscene shows all of the Toads in the Mushroom Kingdom suddenly start praying. Each individual prayer deals heavy damage onto Giygas.

Eventually, Giygas dies in a very horrific way, as seen here at 7:16.

This boss fight completely goes against any lightheartedness I want in SSB4's story. But it's just so awesome.

Plus, he would have the most disturbing boss music to ever touch Smash Bros. Seriously, don't listen to this if you want to sleep tonight.

Comment.


And an off-topic question I want to ask people because I'm that bored and a hypocrite for wanting on-topic and asking for off-topic ():

Who's your favorite user on this thread?

 

[SmashChu]

Okay. But no matter which way you slice it, your ideas are making Smash too much like Street Fighter and Marvel vs. Capcom. All of your ideas are based off of Special Meters, insane combo-ability, multiple button layouts, and attacks from other fighting games. Smash was specifically designed to be original compared to other fighters. It just doesn't have the same charm with your ideas in account. You're changing Smash's winning formula, and that's why your ideas aren't even plausible.

P.S. If you showed that video that you showed me earlier to pretty much any Smasher in the world, and said, "This is where Cook Kirby's idea came from," they'd be like, "No it's not! What are you, stupid?!"

You're making Smash too complicated, so complicated that it would give little kids migraines just for the controls. Smash was made to be picked up and played with an easy grasp on controls. It's not supposed to take a year to figure out one character. Smash is fine as is right now. We don't need Street Fighter and MvC crap.

This is really the best I ever heard it put.

Smashers like Smash. Sakurai made the series as a response to other fighting games, and the market responded well to it. Smash became a very big series from one that didn't have plans to leave Japan. People have made a lot of suggestions for balance, but they really sacrifice what makes Smash good. Kuma just goes all the way to straight up copying Street Fighter where other players just try to balance it with the same mindset (like meters and combos). If Smash is to be successful, it needs to be Smash. I'd like to hear more talk about that.

Why not tamper with it? You keep the same thing going and you're stuck with stagnation. Just making things bigger and better isn't going to cut it for more than one or two games.

Take chances, make mistakes, get messy. Nobody got anywhere without taking risks. What you don't think that creating a different fighting system for a fighting game isn't risky in of itself?

I could link a great Malstrom article or five that say why change isn't always good.

Too often in videogames do people complain that it's too much the same. Usually gamers want the same old, same old. Changing a franchise is usually for the worse.

Let's take Mario. When Mario went 3D, it had a big drop off in sales. A series that could gross +15 million couldn't and made a weak 6 million with Sunshine. 3D Mario has never come close to 2D. And when Nintendo makes the "new," games, they break 20 million. First person shooters are still successful even after Quake and Half Life. People happily bought Goldeneye, than Halo, than Modern Warfare. They are all about the same. They are about shooting people. Nothing radical.

Smash is successful for being Smash. They play the game for Smash. They wont buy it for being something else, and a competitive fighter is what they are not buying.

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BTW,, this wasn't meant to be attack Kuma day. Just I didn't see anything else. Just Kuma and Chrono talking about talking about Krystal, Toise being Toise self, and everyone happy about the return of this N person. Oh, and Oasis made a cool little gif.

 

[Berserker.]

@Java: My favorite users are Iblis, N, Omega, Brosis, Shortie and King Oatmeal Omega also Propeller Toad. I chat with him in profile

@Chu: It's speculation. You don't have to post how many sentences about his suggestion when it's obviously gonna be rejected (No offense Kuma). PLUS, he's fine with the current controls of Smash bros.

 

[Disfunkshunal]

Chris=SS tier
Rosalina= a tier
Imo


Happy masks salesman for new AT
Discuss


I need a new blue. Feel like I'm jocking berserker's style

 

[nLiM8d]

I'm loving the presentation so far Java, gotta look into it

Dude, I don't think I've met a user that I really didn't like. People tend to be rude/mean without knowing it, but thats all in the past.

 

[Metal Overlord]

I remember Chris the Ripper from my lurking days.

I thought people actually liked him LOL

 

[Berserker.]

I liked Chris

He's annoying but annoying has a different meaning. It's not bad to be annoying.

@disfunctional: You forgot about Lord_Hokage

 

[Opelucid]

I'm going to work on a new moveset tomorrow I don't know who though I'll think about it though. By the way is this Rosalina Supporter?

http://www.smashboards.com/member.php?u=191130

 

[Big-Cat]

Meh? Maybe. It's sort of one of those movies where you have to be: A Girl, Gay, or REALLY ****ed up to like.

I'm none of the above and I love Mean Girls.

@berserker
The main reason why I reject what he says is his attitude with anyone that disagrees with him. I've seen it in other threads on here, SRK, and VG Charts. And thank you for reminding everyone that I am ok with the current controls. I just want to see more of what it's capable of.

BTW, what do you think of Final Smash attacks being down with down, down, B instead of just B? That way, people can still use neutral specials.

 

[JavaCroc]

Personally, my favorite users would be Oasis_S, nLiM8d, Barbasol (where has he been?), Johnknight1, and xIblisx.

Oasis just has an awesome, dry-wit personality that anyone can like. nLiM8d listens to me (). Barbasol was just a cool poster. Johnknight always fascinates me with his long posts and humor. xIblisx is just chill in a good way.

On-topic... I want a Wario Land stage or at least more Wario Land representation of some sort in SSB4. Captain Syrup as a character would be awesome, but I'd settle for a trophy and/or sticker.

I'm loving the presentation so far Java, gotta look into it

Cool, thanks. I think Giygas is too awesome to be anything but a generically-designed boss and deserves better than he usually gets.

And I am reminded. I've got to update the music archive.

 

[yani_]

I'm going to work on a new moveset tomorrow I don't know who though I'll think about it though. By the way is this Rosalina Supporter?

You should do K.Rool

 

[Berserker.]

@Ope: Yes

@Kuma: How about A + B? Never mind. I'm fine with your option

 

[Big-Cat]

There's definitely that one as well. Now see, this kind of discussion I like. It's not ME HATE CHANGE hate, but just suggesting a different solution.

 

[Berserker.]

@Java: ..... I....... have ......... never...... played...... Earthbound

*INSERT SHOCKING MUSIC HERE*

Out of no where: Whenever a pokemon debate arises, I'm like "Wtf are they talking about?"

 

[Opelucid]

Kuma I like that final smash idea, I think that Pokemon Trainer should be able to change his Pokemon via taunt so his Pokemon would actually have a down special move. Zelda should be able to transform into Shiek too with some kind of taunt.

You should do K.Rool

Wish I could... unfortunately my knowledge on him is limited I don't know that much about the DK series.

 

[Disfunkshunal]

I liked Chris

He's annoying but annoying has a different meaning. It's not bad to be annoying.

@disfunctional: You forgot about Lord_Hokage

I'm extremely biased towards him. In my eyes he had one redeaming quality:infatuation for bomberman

 

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@Java: I like your Giygas ideas. By the way how might it look with modern day graphics?

 

[Berserker.]

I'm extremely biased towards him. In my eyes he had one reframing quality:infatuation for bomberman

I don't remember that though but good for you

Oh and this theme is just full of win just like this one

 

[Conviction]

I'm surprised I'm in people's favorite poster.

 

[nLiM8d]

For some reason I kind of like it like this,

Its hard to hold everyone's attention on a single topic, so we can get a few going instead to tie up the loose ends.

keep it coming.
_

That's a good question Try-hi, what kind of measures do designers go through in making 2D to 3D renditions?
Its interesting to think about.

 

[augustoflores]

@Java: I like your Giygas ideas. By the way how might it look with modern day graphics?

Damn! i was just about to ask that!

 

[Shorts]

I'm none of the above and I love Mean Girls.

NO SILLY. I was talking about Girl Interrupted. Although I think you might like that movie.


I think I'll make a FULL BLOWN moveset, if anyone is willing to take a look at it?

Speaking of drastic Smash changes, I had a dream that Smash became a 3D fighter with a slight overworld view, but got some more combo abilities. The level's were these massive maps, and the characters could have these extravagent battles around an entire city. My brother was Toad, and I was Waluigi. Toad had weak phsyical attacks, (Waluigi was an air comboing beast) but he made up for it with his ability to throw mushrooms, an drive his cart. You could jump over his cart, and dodge it, but it did massive damage if you got hit by it. Plus, the mushrooms you throw, would litter the floor, and when his cart hit it, it would boost in speed. Waluigi's B moves....I never used. I usually would just **** Toad via air moves.

Now, I'm going to FINISH MY MOVIE.

 

[Opelucid]

I hate to go off topic but... what happened to Omega? Did he leave or something I haven't seen him in quite awhile. But anyway moving on I think the 3DS thread should be merged with this one or the topic should be changed to New Smash Bros for Wii U/3DS since the 3DS thread barely gets any activity.

 

[Illusive]

You could give Pokemon Trainer's pokemon aerial down specials while maintaining pokemon change as a down B, but that could be problematic. Maybe if they were all stall then falls or similar moves that were obviously meant to be aerial.

 

[Berserker.]

@iblis: Maybe it's because you only need like.... 2 or 3 words to post something logical. I think.

@Ope: He said he'd be busy for months