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in all the time i got a chance to play it (no, i don't have it, nor do i know anyone at these dormitories that has it), i like using Rachel Alucard.
She's my favorite character personality wise. Looks, well Mu and Lambda of course. Clover is interesting, and I really like how Noel plays. Taokaka is my favorite character to be though.

Anyways, back on topic..
 

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Meh, I really don't care which Megaman design we get, all I want is Megaman himself, people are being too picky towards a 3rd party guest, be grateful if he even makes regardless which look he holds, it's all aesthetic anyway.

I however do want Ray MK instead, preferably in his RayMK I form.

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RAYMK VS MEGAMAN HOW WELL WIN :p 10 dollars for raymk
 

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in all the time i got a chance to play it (no, i don't have it, nor do i know anyone at these dormitories that has it), i like using Rachel Alucard.
Rachel is also good, I like Rachel's Astral finisher alot, I myself haven't been playing it much since I'm more eager to play as Phoenix Wright next month.

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At this rate, I just want a Mega Man in. I think Mega Man supporters should agree to this now, especially after recent events.

But I don't see much to go on this topic anymore. Everything that we can come up with in regards to him has already been discussed.
 

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I'm going to make a "Newcomer tier list" based on popularity. It will be extensive, so.... I'll be back in a while.
 

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RAYMK VS MEGAMAN HOW WELL WIN :p 10 dollars for raymk
Huh? Well, if I had to choose who prefer In Smash I honestly would go with Ray MK instead, it would make SORA's job alot easier IMO.

And no, I'm not hating on Megaman, it's just preferance if I had to choose between the two, however a match-up between the two would be phenomenal.

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Huh? Well, if I had to choose who prefer In Smash I honestly would go with Ray MK instead, it would make SORA's job alot easier IMO.

And no, I'm not hating on Megaman, it's just preferance if I had to choose between the two, however a match-up between the two would be phenomenal.

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Just add ROB to that and you've got a Battle Bot Free-for-All.
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What would be your reaction to this?

All vets except Red, Sonic and Snake return. There are overall 54 character slots.

Revealed at E3 2012:

Veterans: Mario, Donkey Kong, Link, Samus, Kirby, Pikachu, Ness, Marth, Pit

Newcomers:
Villain: Ridley
Female: Palutena
New Series: Little Mac
Retro Series: Takamaru
3rd Party: Mega Man

Revealed through DOJO!!:

Veterans: Luigi, Peach, Bowser, Diddy Kong, Yoshi, Wario, Zelda, Sheik (revealed at later time, but shares the same slot with Zelda), Fox, Olimar, Ice Climbers, Meta-Knight, King Dedede, Captain Falcon, Jigglypuff, Ike.

Newcomer:
- Toad
- King K. Rool
- Krystal
- 2nd Gen Pokemon Trainer w/ Totodile, Bayleef, and Typhlosion
- Saki Amamiya
- Isaac
- Starfy
- Slime

Unlockable Characters: (note that Mega Man and Slime have to be unlocked as well, they were just revealed beforehand. These are the only unlockables that will be revealed through E3 2012 or DOJO!!, whereas the rest must be unlocked to see them)

Veterans: Ganondorf (with unique move set), Toon Link, R.O.B., Falco, Wolf, Lucario, Lucas, Mr. Game & Watch (did I forget to add any vets?)

Newcomer/Returnees:
- Mewtwo (returnee)
- Roy (returnee)

- Paper Mario
- Vaati
- Victini
- Samurai Goroh
- Medusa
- Ray MK III
- Duck Hunt Dog

The Internet Reaction: Ridley fans complain about Ridley in his Other M look, complain about how Palutena got in over Medusa (although they find out that Medusa is an unlockable character), how the roster lacks Bowser Jr. despite having two new Mario characters, anti-Krystal fans throws a hissy fit over Krystal's inclusion despite it being very unique, not dressed in a suggestive way, Wolf getting an unique move set, and Falco being decloned even more. Complaints about Victini's inclusion arise since it is "cute'", "Mew-like", "not humanoid", and "unsuited for fighting" would arise. Massive nerd rage would occur over Duck Hunt Dog's and Slime's inclusion as would Snake's exclusion. The Sonic fan base would go ballistic over Sonic's exclusion. People would still complain about a lack of villains despite getting four new villains and complaints about lack of females despite getting three new females.

...and of course Ridley trolls will be wondering why Ridley made the cut as playable.
 

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so this time the dojo doesn't reveal all but will still exist... hmmm... i like it.
 
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so this time the dojo doesn't reveal all but will still exist... hmmm... i like it.
The DOJO!! for SSB4 will only reveal things that are available from the start. Anything you have to unlock will remain hidden and not be shown on the DOJO!!.
 

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you put 2nd gen pkmn trainer under veterans in revealed through dojo.....
 

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The DOJO!! for SSB4 will only reveal things that are available from the start. Anything you have to unlock will remain hidden and not be shown on the DOJO!!.
That would be nice. Outside of a few obvious ones like Snake and Sonic, knowing just about everything was kind of lame.
 
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I counted the number of vets I returned and it's at 31 (not including Zelda/Sheik transformation). I'm not sure which one I'm missing.
 

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Why should Krystal be in if she isn't dressed in a suggestive way?
 

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S Tier Newcomer
1. Ridley
2. King K. Rool

A Tier Newcomers
  1. Mewtwo
  2. Megaman
  3. Toad
  4. Isaac Golden Sun
B Tier Newcomers
  1. Krystal
  2. Bowser Jr.
  3. Little Mac Punch Out!!
  4. Roy
  5. Dixie Kong
  6. Zoroark
  7. Plusle & Minun
C Tier Newcomers
  1. Pichu
  2. Samurai Goroh
  3. Paper Maio
  4. Victini
  5. Black Shadow
D Tier Newcomers
  1. Starfy Legendary Starfy
  2. Medusa
  3. Bomberman
  4. Saki Sin & Punishment
  5. Lyn
  6. Mii’s
  7. Super Mario RPG
  8. Young Link
  9. Tom Nook Animal Crossing
  10. Kamek
  11. Waluigi
  12. Johto Trainer
  13. Dark Samus
  14. Toon Zelda / Tetra
  15. Vaati
  16. Lip Panel De Pon
  17. Midna & Wolf Link
  18. Black Knight
  19. Meowth
F Tier Newcomers
  1. Balloon Fighter
  2. Majora
  3. Takamaru Mysterious Murasame Castle
  4. Tingle
  5. Masked Man
  6. Final Fantasy
  7. Pac-Man
  8. Palutena
  9. Micaiah
  10. Deoxys
  11. Sukapon Joy Mech Fight
  12. Porky
  13. Professor Layton
  14. Prince Fluff
  15. Ashley
  16. Kingdom Hearts
  17. Baby Bros
  18. Street Fighter
  19. Rosalina
  20. Dr. Mario
  21. Claus
  22. Captain Syrup
  23. Funky Kong
  24. Caeda
  25. Hoenn Trainer
G Tier Newcomers
  1. Unova Trainer
  2. Kat & Ana
  3. Ghirahim
  4. Tales Series
  5. Daisy
  6. Slippy Toad
  7. Hector
 
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Hey Shortie, you forgot about King K. Rool and Ray.

Other then that, it is a good indication of what people support.
 

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Hey Shortie, you forgot about King K. Rool and Ray.

Other then that, it is a good indication of what people support.
Fixed... and I still have NO CLUE WHY Plusle and Minun are so high.... they should be below Deoxys. Stupid forbidden seven.
 

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S Tier Newcomer
1. Ridley

A Tier Newcomers
  1. Mewtwo
  2. Megaman
  3. Toad
  4. Isaac Golden Sun
B Tier Newcomers
  1. Krystal
  2. Bowser Jr.
  3. Little Mac Punch Out!!
  4. Roy
  5. Dixie Kong
  6. Zoroark
  7. Plusle & Minun
C Tier Newcomers
  1. Pichu
  2. Samurai Goroh
  3. Paper Maio
  4. Victini
  5. Black Shadow
D Tier Newcomers
  1. Starfy Legendary Starfy
  2. Medusa
  3. Bomberman
  4. Saki Sin & Punishment
  5. Lyn
  6. Mii’s
  7. Super Mario RPG
  8. Young Link
  9. Tom Nook Animal Crossing
  10. Kamek
  11. Waluigi
  12. Johto Trainer
  13. Dark Samus
  14. Toon Zelda / Tetra
  15. Vaati
  16. Lip Panel De Pon
  17. Midna & Wolf Link
  18. Black Knight
  19. Meowth
F Tier Newcomers
  1. Balloon Fighter
  2. Majora
  3. Takamaru Mysterious Murasame Castle
  4. Tingle
  5. Masked Man
  6. Final Fantasy
  7. Pac-Man
  8. Palutena
  9. Micaiah
  10. Deoxys
  11. Sukapon Joy Mech Fight
  12. Porky
  13. Professor Layton
  14. Prince Fluff
  15. Ashley
  16. Kingdom Hearts
  17. Baby Bros
  18. Street Fighter
  19. Rosalina
  20. Dr. Mario
  21. Claus
  22. Captain Syrup
  23. Funky Kong
  24. Caeda
  25. Hoenn Trainer
G Tier Newcomers
  1. Unova Trainer
  2. Kat & Ana
  3. Ghirahim
  4. Tales Series
  5. Daisy
  6. Slippy Toad
  7. Hector
You forgot Shy Guy. :troll:
Just kidding. That looks really good. Nice job!

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Fixed... and I still have NO CLUE WHY Plusle and Minun are so high.... they should be below Deoxys. Stupid forbidden seven.
Its pretty much Forbidden Seven.

Deoxys should have reached at least D Tier. But it's nice to see some deserving characters up on S and A tier.
 

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whoa, plusle and minun over medusa or saki... god i hate this world.

oh, and can you mix the Masked Man votes with the Claus ones? you know that they are the same guy (even though they dont)
 

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I'm 100% certain the people that selected Claus thought they were voting for the masked man. Since he's claus.

Since Claus never does anything in the game but die and become a cybernetic warrior of death
 

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whoa, plusle and minun over medusa or saki... god i hate this world.

oh, and can you mix the Masked Man votes with the Claus ones? you know that they are the same guy (even though they dont)
It's weird, because even though this outdates E3 2011, they still have lowish votes. (That's why there is no Magnus/Shulk choices)

I WAS GOING TO (Added up the YLink origina and YLink Mask set, as well as Dixie partners sets) But, I felt like I couldn't get away with adding them together, they are the same person, but how Samus and ZSS are. Not the same as the others I combined.

Its pretty much Forbidden Seven.

Deoxys should have reached at least D Tier. But it's nice to see some deserving characters up on S and A tier.
Basically, Zoroark and up is accurate IMO. From there, it gets kind of "uniformed roster making".

I'm 100% certain the people that selected Claus thought they were voting for the masked man. Since he's claus.

Since Claus never does anything in the game but die and become a cybernetic warrior of death
You want Claus, vote for him. You want Masked man, vote for him. You want both, vote for them. I keep them seperate.
 

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if i were voting... (i think i did) i would vote for claus rather than masked man simply because i don't like having to call him by that name... either that, or i would vote for both just to make the statement to have him. i just wish that Sakurai would call him Claus. it's all i really care about. (he has yet to call him anything)
 

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Hey I'm too lazy to check the last 15-20 pages. What did I miss?

As for that poll, I guess I'm not surprised as it was a popularity poll, not a how likely to get in poll. Pichu and Ghirahim are proof enough of that.
 

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Hey I'm too lazy to check the last 15-20 pages. What did I miss?

As for that poll, I guess I'm not surprised as it was a popularity poll, not a how likely to get in poll. Pichu and Ghirahim are proof enough of that.
Well, you missed a tedious debate of me and HyperFalcon vs. Sunnysunny and KumaOso on the topic of Special Meter vs. Smash Ball.

HyperFalcon and I were for the Smash Ball. Sunnysunny and KumaOso were for special meters.

As for the poll, I agree. If Pichu wasn't on that poll, Starfy would have been at least C tier. :glare:

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Since the topic has gone all over the place, I wanna ask something...

I main a few characters, but mainly: ROB, Sonic, Pit, Samus.

Which of these is a... say... better match-up against Metaknight, and on what counterpick stage? (So far, best result has been ROB on Jungle Japes). Any ideas? Tournament coming on Saturday.
 

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statistically, pit and sonic; but if you can, Zero Suit Samus has a better chance than Samus.
 

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You wouldn't say "It's all aesthetics anyway" if Megaman came out looking like Frankenstien. Visuals matter. I don't care how the game plays, if it looks ugly or is an artstyle I don't like (Skullgirls) I simply won't buy it.
I'll kill you!

Jiz....
Well, you missed a tedious debate of me and HyperFalcon vs. Sunnysunny on the topic of Special Meter vs. Smash Ball.

As for the poll, I agree. If Pichu wasn't on that poll, Starfy would have been at least C tier. :glare:

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Hey, dont' forget about me. I was expecting SmashChu to chime in.
 

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Well, you missed a tedious debate of me and HyperFalcon vs. Sunnysunny on the topic of Special Meter vs. Smash Ball.

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Earned some respect for hyperfalcon. I feel honored that he put work into his responses instead of just going"I disagree." Or "I agree" or "THIS ^^^" like most people do. A tip of the hat to you good sir.

and echi dude this really ain't the place. xD

But i'd reccomend pit out of all of those.

MK is ROBs worst matchup, sonic has an even harder time killing then usual, and samus's camping game is really easy to get in on as MK. And generally she gets wrecked up close!

Pits defnitly the go to guy. Still a bad MU, but not that bad. I reccomend keeping your distance and playing really gay with arrows and spacing with mostly F-airs, tilts and jabs. Punish hard with smashes if you get the chance. also remember glide attack on shield is really safe and you can follow up afterwards on the shield as well.

EDIT: Also Kuma totally deserves some love too~ <3 I was like "holy ****!" YES" when you jumped in man. C: Your like the god tier of debates!!!
 

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I'll kill you!

Jiz....
Fire Emblem, attractive.
Streetfighter Girls, attractive
Blazblue, attractive.
DarkStalkers girls, attractive.

...Skullgirls....UGH. They're design...... I HATE.


Kuma, I think Poppy just came all over onto you
 

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Fire Emblem, attractive.
Streetfighter Girls, attractive
Blazblue, attractive.
DarkStalkers girls, attractive.

...Skullgirls....UGH. They're design...... I HATE.
I think I see the difference. The anime style is more appealing to you than this cross between American comic books and 50's art.
 

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I think I see the difference. The anime style is more appealing to you than this cross between American comic books and 50's art.
Bingo dingo. Well, Panda. I like softer facial structures on all characters. So, yeah. I like pretty anime boys and girls.

EDIT: Also Kuma totally deserves some love too~ <3 I was like "holy ****!" YES" when you jumped in man. C: Your like the god tier of debates!!!
I heard it hit the ground you jump up and down.
 

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I actually gotta agree with shortie.

Skullsgirls art is just so...ummm gritty looking ._. Mostly the way he draws breast (not like i'm trying to look there!!! *cough*) and faces.

Peacock looks cool though. By far one of the coolest character designs in the game! :3
 

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Then you should play SNK fighters. The men get really close to Bridget's territory if you know what I mean.

BTW, IIRC, the breasts were done by a woman.
 

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Then you should play SNK fighters. The men get really close to Bridget's territory if you know what I mean.

BTW, IIRC, the breasts were done by a woman.
That's like hiring me to do breasts.
 

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Breasts are hard to draw admittably. I only just learned how to draw em well like a week ago. All my drawings of female came out flat and looking like Ash Crimson. :V

So anyone got a cool subject for smash?

I'm working on my zoroark moveset.

I'm going the extramile to make a few battle sprites for him too give a visual. C: Pretty damn nifty if I do say so myself.
 
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