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If I could pick one other Fire Emblem character, and it was completely up to me. I would choose this guy.



I'd take the extra Mario character so we could appease everyone. Toad and Bowser Jr., everyone wins.
 
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I like the idea of N as the Pokemon Trainer using his own Pokemons. I'm fine with any choice as long as it is not an overpowered legendary like Reshiram and Zekrom.

@ChronoBound (#41196): Thanks. I knew that from the moment I played that game that something seriously different was with it. It took me a long time to figure it out, but I think I know what makes it even more unique; the fact that so much speculation goes around. Another thing that set it apart was that it was an collaboration of Nintendo All-Star and had an entirely different game play. Perhaps that is why the series is my favorite.
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Sakurai needs to replace the Random Icon with Ditto from Pokemon. He'll transform into a Random character during his entry animation.

The random button doesn't have to be boring.
I like this idea. Personally, I never was really a fan of Random Button. If you ask me, I'd replace it with a Mii slot or your suggestion.
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Here is a thought. What if in one game, in like some post game story mode, your character hears talk of a mysterious trainer with strange powers. You finally reach this trainer that is draped in cloth to challenge him to a battle. As you engage in conversation with this mysterious figure he begins to talk to you about Pokémon. How they are superior to mankind and how man is nothing more than powerless beasts. He begins to glow and the cloth begins to rise. To the amazement of you and your character itself it is a Pokémon, Mewtwo! He engages you to battle, to humiliate you by using his own team of comrades to defeat you using your own game.

As the trainer? sprite flashes across the screen the his sprite consists of his arms folded across his chest with five Pokéballs floating above his fingers. The epic theme begins to play. Once you defeat his team he engages you himself. Demonstrating who truly possesses power. Level 99 and stats maxed to all limits, it is the final fight with the mysterious trainer himself. The vengeful Pokémon known as Mewtwo!

Something like that anyways... I just saw a clip of Pokémon: The First Movie on Youtube and remembered how awesome of an idea that seemed to be for me as a child.
I would really enjoy that, providing that Mewtwo is made playable after the boss fight.
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Anyway if we were supposed to get 3 FE slots in Brawl, I have little doubt we won't in SSB4.

Besides Sakurai is a FE fan so chances are his bias may also come into play.
I also think that we'll get three FE slots for SSB4. Whenever the third slot goes to Chrome or Roy remains to be determined.
 

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I'm looking through the old SSB4 thread, and since this place is slow, I thought I could take my time and post some old gems I come across on this specific post.Edits will be happening.

The thing about Final Fantasy and Dragon Quest is, they make up two of the four biggest franchises in Japan (the other two being Mario and Pokemon). Square-Enix to them is a really REALLY big deal. Any characters they have shouldn't be ignored.

On another similar note, Sakurai has mentioned that Mega Man has a lot of demand from the West. Most of us consider him the most likely third-party character, but I wouldn't be shocked to hear that Chocobo holds that honor in Japan.

@Wizzerd: Was that Chocobo & Slime idea mine or did you have that one for a while?
DQ and FF are pretty much on par with each other in Japan. FF has the edge in being considerably more popular worldwide.
From an international standpoint, it's clearly Final Fantasy. However, I don't know if that's the case in Japan, but DQ is notable for having a law stating that a new DQ game cannot be released on a weekday so people won't skip work/school to play it. Also, Dragon Quest basically started the RPG genre for videogames. At the same time, Final Fantasy popularized the genre and gave the genre mainstream presence with Final Fantasy VII.
[On Why Sonic got in] Because the Sonic fanboys won't STFU and spammed countless message boards since April Fools 2002.
When it comes to Ganon, another luigifcation is all that's really needed. Change up a couple of his regular moves, and add in a new special or two, and you've pretty much got a non-clone there. In any case, at the time of Melee, I think that Ganon only had about one real appearance, so its actually somewhat logical that he turned out the way he did. Plus, there is the fact that he was last minnute at the time. In all, the only thing I really want to see redone with his moveset is him having the magical rebound ball as one of his specials.

- ToiseOfChoice 1-2 KumaOso 3 Arcadenik 4 Pieman 5(September, 2009)

Intersting post about characters, by Toise

[COLLAPSE="Continuation of said post"]Toad > Bowser Jr.

Toad has a longer history and doesn't have a good chunk of the fans hating him (also did really well on the Melee poll of all things). Bowser Jr. has a more active role in the games he appears in. The thing is, this could go either way since neither of them come off as particularly strong candidates (both are on my "might not even belong" list). We've got two Mario games coming out to give us more insight on this thankfully.

Dr. Mario > Paper Mario [alt costumes]

I believe a few things: one, any other version of Mario is only worth an alt costume at best. Two, no character will ever have more than one alt costume, if that. Three, Dr. Mario is the better choice. The model is way easier to make, it's a callback to Melee, and it's more popular than Paper Mario.


King K. Rool > Dixie Kong

K. Rool being the main villian of the series, whereas Dixie is kinda taking a backseat to DK and Diddy (except in stuff like Diddy Kong Racing and Mario spinoffs). Then again, Dixie had been planned to pair up with Diddy in Brawl, so Sakurai might come back to her in some form.


Kamek

Rhymes with Kamek. I'd actually prefer they just make him an AT and have him pop up a bunch in adventure mode.


Mona > Captain Syrup > Jimmy T.

Debatable between the first two since in a way, they're from seperate series (even though they're both Wario). Mona seemingly has the edge based on the shaft Wario Land got in Brawl, but Shake It may have changed that. Jimmy T. is clearly in 3rd and might not even belong on the list at all. Either way he won't be in SSB4.


Tingle

The thing about Tingle is that he's not really important to the Zelda series itself, but to his own spinoff games. I'm of the belief that he'd get a little rupee icon next to his name. For the record, I don't consider Toon Zelda/Sheik as seriously important.


Ridley

The baddest dude in town.


Krystal

The last important Star Fox character, no competition.


Mewtwo? = Future Pokemon?
Roy? = Future FE Lord?

I'm gonna be honest, I can't make any conclusion here. There's a LOT to consider for these two series. Does Sakurai intend to cycle in and out the latest characters? Does he care about the ones he got rid of? What about the fans? What about Ike and Lucario?

There's a lot of ways to interpret what'll happen, but the only thing I'm confident about is that we won't see any other currently existing characters from these two series. No Deoxys, no Sigurd, no Darkrai, no Micaiah. Their chance came and went.

I personally think he'll just bring back Mewtwo and Roy and consider adding a new character to each series. It seems like he just wants to add a new character from each series on top of all the previous ones. I figure that since Jigglypuff is still around long after her moment of glory, Ness is still around despite Lucas being planned to replace him, and both were intended to be in Brawl. Plus, you know, Mewtwo was supposed to be in 64 so Sakurai clearly has a thing for him, and the localization team almost took Roy without Marth in Melee (then decided to bring Marth since it didn't make sense to have one and not the other). They're also both really popular.

Anyway, these two are still up in the air for now.


Samurai Goroh > Black Shadow > Jody Summer

Samurai Goroh has been around since the SNES game and has always been played up as the rival to Captain Falcon. Given how prominent he is in F-Zero and even in Smash, he's the obvious choice. Black Shadow is the main villian (though this wasn't established until GX), he's a very big presence in the series, blah blah blah. Me and Pieman have been discussing Jody for the last few days so you can check my posts for more on her. Also keep in mind this basically states that Jody won't be in SSB4.


Porky > Claus

Tricked! Yeah, I do think Porky is more likely. More presence in the games and in Brawl. Considering he has a relation to both Ness and Lucas (as opposed to Claus, where it's just Lucas) as a primary antagonist, I really can't see any reason why Claus would get in over him. Keep in mind I personally prefer Claus; this is really just a "all signs point to Porky" kind of thing. And yes, the EB mech works fine, it's probably not much different than Bowser in size and shape.


I'm not gonna mention characters I left out in this post, but I'll discuss them after this one if you want.
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As for me it would be this guy:



As for another Mario rep, King Wart would be my obvious choice for inclusion, he seems very underated and forgotten.

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Another FE character? Well there are so many to choose so I'll have to think on it. Too bad though I'd rather replace Chrome with Roy, then free up the spot for another FE character (Caeda or BK).

As for another Rep, Mario all the way. It's the only series so far to actually lose a slot, as for who, I'm not a huge Mario fan, so I could care less, it's a stalemate on all sides.
 
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@Shortiecanbrawl: Is this under the assumption that we get five or six Mario slots?

If five, add Toad. But if six, Toad and Paper Mario. I would also accept an unique Bowser Jr. and (although third-party), Geno.
 

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Well he's my thought on the another FE slot question:



For those who don't know he'd be the random slot. :awesome:
 

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HMMM, Captain Syrup might be neat, but Bowser Jr. is much more exciting.

I'd probably still go with the Burger Knight. u3u
 

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I see what you are doing there Shortie... Anyways, though most people are probably not aware, I am not the one who began the Slime and Chocobo concept. There was actually several other people who did back in the old thread. I've just come along and kind of popularized it among this group and tried taking it a little farther. Still like the idea, just not sure how likely it is.
 

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I'm curious, all you Fire Emblem fans, if we got a forth slot, and Chrome wasn't received well, who would you pick?
I would go with Leaf from FE4/FE5. While he was the least important lord of the Jugdral arc from a storyline point of view, he is more distinguishable aesthetically than Sigurd or Celice. Leaf could also have a moveset based off of the Master Knight class, which he could promote to in FE4. The Master Knight class is a class where one can use swords, lances, axes, bows, magic, and staffs. It would be a very unique moveset as far as Fire Emblem characters go.
 

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I'm imagining Marth's Side Special on Leaf...

Downward swing with a sword, up again with an axe, thrusts with a lance to push opponent away, ends with a shot from a bow. Awwwh yeeeah.

@Star: I don't suppose you're seeing anything particularly interesting about Shulk? :I
I mean, red swords are cool and all but...
 

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The more I see of Xenoblade the more convinced I become we will be seeing this series added heavily into the next Smash.
 

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Well I'll have to start playing my FE4 cart soon once I get some time now. :cool:

Anyway I'd be fine with it, although with all those weapons he may be a little overpowered. lol
 

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The more I read the old thread, the more I miss REALLY in depth discussions. Toise, Chu, Pieman, Acade, ThirdKoopa and Kuma would all post on the same day

Now? We're lucky to see one of them every other day. Oh well.

Not to mention, whenever things get "Heated" here, everyone feels like the debates are personal or something. I want someone to tell me something, me not agree, and then we actually get into a discussion.
 
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The more I see of Xenoblade the more convinced I become we will be seeing this series added heavily into the next Smash.
I'm not very convinced that Xenoblade will get a playable character or even a stage yet. I think Sakurai will mainly focus on international appeal. If the game releases in the US and does well, then I'll consider him as a serious possibility. Until then, I really can't see any non retro/AT series get in that don't have a playable rep right now.
 

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I'm not very convinced that Xenoblade will get a playable character or even a stage yet. I think Sakurai will mainly focus on international appeal. If the game releases in the US and does well, then I'll consider him as a serious possibility. Until then, I really can't see any non retro/AT series get in that don't have a playable rep right now.
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I don't really think the USA needs play a factor in order for Sakurai to decide to push for the series. Fire Emblem, Sin and Punishment, Legendary Starfy and a few others have received quite a bit despite not being active in the West. At least Xenoblade has Japan and Europe going for it right now alongside a small cult following in the US.
 
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That was before Assist Trophies were in and before Sakurai said he wanted a limit in Japan-only characters. Marth's inclusion was before that. Times has changed since then. Not to mention Fire Emblem was a major series for Nintendo at the time in Japan, whereas Xenoblade currently has one game.
 

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That was before Assist Trophies were in and before Sakurai said he wanted a limit in Japan-only characters. Marth's inclusion was before that. Times has changed since then. Not to mention Fire Emblem was a major series for Nintendo at the time in Japan, whereas Xenoblade currently has one game.
So? The game was still unfamilar to America? If anything, Shulk in SSB4 would have a similar effect as Marth did in Melee. Which was gain some fans, and open the door for future releases in the US. Times change, like you said. And if anything Sakurai could use his eyes and see the major ripples Xenoblade and The Last Story are making when it comes to what is and isn't localized. Oh, and Pandora's Tower. . . I guess.

Shulk is nothing but a good idea.


I found an interesting quote regaurding the similarities bewteen Kirby and F-Zero

The problem here is that you think Jody matters enough to be considered part of F-Zero's "balance". Her role within the games, is just the female character who at one point needed to be saved by the main character. Overall, her importance isn't even comparable to Krystal's in Star Fox either, because while both are essentially the main girl of their series, the degrees in which each represent their trope are different. Krystal had a major role two games, and a supporting role in one game. Jody had a background role in one game, and a role as a mission objective in another. (Mind you I'm not taking into effect here that they were playable in most of these roles due to the nature of their playability)

So while yes, Jody is the main female of the group, that doesn't mean she's part of the "balance" of the series, since her place in that role is so small. In reality, F-Zero is actually much closer to Kirby than it is to Star Fox, since people have only been asking for Samurai Goroh and Black Shadow, which parallels Kirby's group of Hero, Rival, Villain (assuming you count Dedede as a villain here) as opposed to Star Fox's group of Hero, Lancer, Rival, Female. In essence you're peddling for Jody to fill in a trope that she doesn't do very well for a spot at no one really wants her to take. While I'll fully bite into the idea that eventually series will have a balance when it comes to the characters that make up a series, what you're suggesting here breaks up that balance, and it shows by the lack of support for Jody.
 

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Despite that it is a game that is making an impact in its own way. It doesn't need to have five entries in order to justify it having content. If we were really going by what series deserve some of the ones featured in the Smash universe have made off like bandits. Heck, Sin and Punishment at the time of Brawl had only one entry. It managed to have a character that was, at least at some point, considered to become playable. That title didn't even make it out of Japan prior to the Virtual Console and wasn't even as successdul as Xenoblade has been. Xenoblade has sold better and is at least available in both Europe and Japan. So really I wouldn't worry about the games merits. It definitely has them. I'm thinking more along the lines of whether Shulk would make for a good character or not? That is my question.
 

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I think the chances for the minor Nintendo series heroes in general are ambiguous. Heck, almost every character we think is "likely" has a good chance of not showing up as a playable character. I can't think of a single character that would be a sure fire bet like many of the newcomers in Brawl were.
 

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Their games are popular and sold well, but isn't that true for most of the other newcomers? So I don't think this warrents them a slot just yet.

Just put them in as ATs for now until they get they get their more than likely sequels.

Besides we need some possible characters to fill in for the old ATs who have better chances at becoming characters and picks for SSB5.
 

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Their games are popular and sold well, but isn't that true for most of the other newcomers? So I don't think this warrents them a slot just yet.
Xenoblade/The Last Story are picking up the issues that Mother left a while back, and look how many characters Mother has? Yes. The for sure, 100% dead series has two characters, and a bunch of controversy around why it wasn't released everywhere. Sound familiar?

The games have picked up major steam on the localization issue, and it's far from over. These two games are doing more than just selling well, they're making headlines, and gaining fans in localized, and non-localized regions alike.
 

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Look, Xenoblade is being touted as one of the premiere RPG's this generation, not just for the Wii, but in general. This is coming from NeoGAF of all places. Xenoblade is not just some flash in the pan without any substance. Xenoblade has a fanbase that is beginning to become this decades version of the next "Earthbound" with less of the negatives. I'm pretty positive Sakurai is going to get a lot of requests from Japan and Europe asking for Xenoblade content. Knowing some things about him from what he has made available this seems like the type of game that would grab his intention more. I get why you guys are being cautious. All I'm asking is in this one case a little bit of foresight be in order.

Why did you resurrect that awful thread on Gamefaqs SSBF? Why...?
 

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Xenoblade/The Last Story are picking up the issues that Mother left a while back, and look how many characters Mother has? Yes. The for sure, 100% dead series has two characters, and a bunch of controversy around why it wasn't released everywhere. Sound familiar?

The games have picked up major steam on the localization issue, and it's far from over.
Yeah, so far this is turning into the next Mother 3. :laugh:

Anyway I see them as the next Saki. AT in SSB4, playable in SSB5 once they get their own series and larger fanbase to support their status to become playable.
 

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Sorry guys, but I'm about to do one of these.

I disagree. If the franchise is going into the trashbin, the franchise will probably never get another rep. Whereas if they continue it, Krystal will have a good shot at the roster (providing she appears in the next hypothetical Star Fox game).
The problem with this (and the entire basis of predictions from you and most people here) is that you assume Sakurai's opinions on stuff are retardedly easy to sway. In fact, it's just the opposite: he's notorious for deciding on something and firmly standing by that choice.

He didn't have an opinion on Krystal going into Brawl because he hadn't heard of her. Now he does. Given her polarizing design and non-existence during the series' high points, it probably isn't very positive. Barring a redesign in a very high-profile game (and realistically, what are the odds of that in time for roster-making?), there's not gonna be any change here.


I am curious what Toise thinks in regards to Ridley's chances for Smash 4. Ridley to us seems like an obvious choice, however, Sakurai has hinted that it would be difficult making him into a playable character. Maybe with much less "all-stars" putting in the extra effort to make Ridley playable might be worth it.
All the cards are in Ridley's favor aside from Sakurai thinking he'd be tricky to design. Frankly, I think his shape deceives people into believing that. If he tries to implement him (and I bet my house that he'll at least try), he'll probably find it's not as hard as he thought it'd be.

Also nerds who complain about him "not being as awesome if they shrink him" can suck it, Sakurai don't care about that anymore than he cares about Ganon and Mewtwo's movesets.


It isn't bias. Look at the size of him in Subspace Emissary. That will give you a better idea of where Sakurai is coming from.
The size of a character designed for a boss battle isn't indicative of how large Sakurai would make them if they were playable. Melee's Adventure Mode Bowser and Giga Bowser are both larger than the Bowser we play.



edit @ Xenoblade talk: Considering the fact that Sakurai:

A) has yet to implement a series that debuted between Smash titles (though Pikmin came close)
B) has complained about a lack of new series between Pikmin and now DESPITE several existing (including, if I remember right, this same statement a few months ago, well after Xenoblade came out)

leads me to believe we won't see anyone from those games. Always a first time for everything, though.
 

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Mewtwo? = Future Pokemon?
Do you still feel this way Toise? Now hat you've seen what Black and White has to offer/is doing ect.
 

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Gimme some context, man. I don't know the format!

But man, reading Pieman's totally incorrect post about Jody brings back a lot of memories. Nobody these days ever sticks to their guns anymore like he did.
 

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Meh, my attempt was to kind of emphasize why Sakurai may have said what he did when the question of Ridley came up in an interview. I'll just be happy if he can clutch opponents and run them along the ground.
 

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edit @ Xenoblade talk: Considering the fact that Sakurai:

A) has yet to implement a series that debuted between Smash titles (though Pikmin came close)
B) has complained about a lack of new series between Pikmin and now DESPITE several existing (including, if I remember right, this same statement a few months ago, well after Xenoblade came out)

leads me to believe we won't see anyone from those games. Always a first time for everything, though.
It is a first party Nintendo though. Probably one of the few differences between that and other Nintendo series without a playable character (talking about stuff like Golden Sun and Drill Dozer though).
 

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Gimme some context, man. I don't know the format!

But man, reading Pieman's totally incorrect post about Jody brings back a lot of memories. Nobody these days ever sticks to their guns anymore like he did.
Well, maybe because you intimidate most posters? Well, the newer ones.

[COLLAPSE="Context, man"]Mewtwo? = Future Pokemon?
Roy? = Future FE Lord?

I'm gonna be honest, I can't make any conclusion here. There's a LOT to consider for these two series. Does Sakurai intend to cycle in and out the latest characters? Does he care about the ones he got rid of? What about the fans? What about Ike and Lucario?

There's a lot of ways to interpret what'll happen, but the only thing I'm confident about is that we won't see any other currently existing characters from these two series. No Deoxys, no Sigurd, no Darkrai, no Micaiah. Their chance came and went.

I personally think he'll just bring back Mewtwo and Roy and consider adding a new character to each series. It seems like he just wants to add a new character from each series on top of all the previous ones. I figure that since Jigglypuff is still around long after her moment of glory, Ness is still around despite Lucas being planned to replace him, and both were intended to be in Brawl. Plus, you know, Mewtwo was supposed to be in 64 so Sakurai clearly has a thing for him, and the localization team almost took Roy without Marth in Melee (then decided to bring Marth since it didn't make sense to have one and not the other). They're also both really popular.

Anyway, these two are still up in the air for now.[/COLLAPSE]

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edit @ Xenoblade talk: Considering the fact that Sakurai:

A) has yet to implement a series that debuted between Smash titles (though Pikmin came close)
B) has complained about a lack of new series between Pikmin and now DESPITE several existing (including, if I remember right, this same statement a few months ago, well after Xenoblade came out)

leads me to believe we won't see anyone from those games. Always a first time for everything, though.
Okay, then who are you expecting in regards to series without a playable character. Little Mac and Isaac/Matthew are generally regarded as the most likely newcomers to represent a new series in Smash Bros. However, there is the concern that Little Mac will simply become "Marth with punches" which might make Sakurai think he is possibly too bland for inclusion and a lack of a following for both the character and the Punch-Out series among the Japanese. I am also not sure whether a Golden Sun character is as likely as most people tend to think one is.
 

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@Chu: I really don't think he cares about that. It's more about whether games fly under his radar or not.


@Shorts: Yeah, I stand by that, although it doesn't sound like I expressed my belief that he'll keep Lucario and Ike too. Of course, this is all just what Sakurai "intends." Never know if he's gonna need to make cuts for time or not.


@CB: Mac and Isaac, yeah. Not that they're a guarantee of course, nobody is, but they're up there. And two things:

- Mac being "bland" would only be a product of Sakurai's inability to do something cool with him. He's getting increasingly more creative in terms of individual character mechanics with each game, so I'm not worried.

- Japan not showing interest in a character is irrelevant when you consider that A) Sakurai DOES pay attention to the rest of the world (most of the Sonic and Mega Man love comes outside of Japan, and Sakurai has mentioned this), and B) Sakurai has zero problems with adding something that people are unfamiliar with if he assumes they'll come to love it. Smash nerds may be unwilling to try new things, but Sakurai sure isn't.
 

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What about Saki? I mean Sakurai stated he was a popular request and he did everything he could to make him a mote pronounced character. I don't think he will be any less requested now that we have Brawl, and as far ad how series is concerned we have Star Successor.

Guess it ultimately hinges upon the reason Sakurai decided to not fully go through with him.
 

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Sakurai thinks pretty well of Saki. As far as not including him, it could've been because he wanted the series to have more international exposure, even if S&P2 bombed worse than any other Nintendo game in recent memory.

Or, you know, slipped his mind.
 

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What about the whole idea of a Ruby and Saphhire remake? I figure it's a more than likely possbility. We will see one, and we haven't really seen how he plays with PKMN remakes. It's unlikely, but do you think a third generation Pokemon is just not going to ever debut in Smash?

The remake would be for the 3DS, which could mean something.

Or, you know, slipped his mind.
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At the time of Sakurai developing Saki it is possible he did it even before knowing that Sin and Punishment was going to be released overseas through the Virtual Console. Cannot remember the exact date S&P was released. Regardless I'm positive it came after he decided his roster.
 

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Well yet again I think we've come to the conclusion of that there is no real pattern to character choice as much as we believe/try to find and see one out.

Sakurai is unpredictable in what he does as a director, that much I think he's proven since Melee and from the Dojo.

Still trying to make educated guesses and debate them is just as much fun as it ever was. :laugh:

Anyway those are my final thoughts for today. Later.
 

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@Shorts: Probably not. There's always the possibility, but generally speaking he's probably already got his mind made up on Gen 3 characters.

A lot of people think the reason he based PT around Gen 1 was because of FR/LG. That pretty much ignores the fact that those Pokemon and Red have always been the most popular. Well, not so much Ivysaur, but you get the idea.


@Star: September 20th, 2007 for Japan, a few weeks later for everyone else. I'd be surprised if he didn't consider him this time ("consider" being the key word; he considers lots of characters).


@Clint Eastwood: Exact predictions may be too far out of reach, but narrowing down the selection to deduce a good chunk of the cast isn't too hard. Been done before, anyways.
 
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