BIGM1994
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http://dic.nicovideo.jp/v/sm5415490 Guy is crazy......also after the marth vids he uses his gnw that is really good,then wolf..![Smile :) :)](data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7)
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i wasnt stereotypeing japan,also ther is alot of things we can learn from them,well ive never seen a marth this quickBacklash:
The marth player was obviously more skilled than the Fox, he read him easily and the Fox didn't know how to punish a few things so the Marth could just keep doing them.
Don't stereotype Japan liek that, they play the game just like we do.
Well, truth be told different countries tend to play brawl and its characters differently. I didnt say they sucked, i just was remarking at the difference between japanese and american playstyles. But lets be honest, that fox was hardly up to par and its not hard to look good against a weak opponent. Yes, the marth obviously knew what he was doing since he landed that spike so well and had pretty decent grip on spacing. However its hard to call someone "amazing" based of this video alone.Backlash:
The marth player was obviously more skilled than the Fox, he read him easily and the Fox didn't know how to punish a few things so the Marth could just keep doing them.
Don't stereotype Japan liek that, they play the game just like we do.
my bad thought u were talking to me....Backlash:
The marth player was obviously more skilled than the Fox, he read him easily and the Fox didn't know how to punish a few things so the Marth could just keep doing them.
Don't stereotype Japan liek that, they play the game just like we do.
I agree with the bold fully. I might even quote this when someone says "stop trying to make this game melee". Melee was a game edging on ideal (I'll concede it could have been better balanced) why would we not want to make brawl like it?Hmm, I'm more of the mindset that we haven't taken enough Melee which has years of development and translated it into Brawl. Ever wonder why the top players are also Melee pros?
This gave me ideas. Also, the chaingrab on Fox is probably legit. I've done similar stuff to MK. Pikachu gave me ideas of mixing up Fthrow and Dthrow to extend our chaingrabs, and I'm willing to bet it ***** Fox just as bad as these Japanese players have already discovered, since Fox is a dominant part of their metagame.
Also, Fox is a viable character, especially if MK were to be removed from the picture. Fox has excellent mobility, punishing tools, kill power, and recovery. What he lacks in weight, he makes up for in damage racking and camping. He dies if you know how to gimp him though.
You answered your own question. I wouldnt want to go to the US if i saw the videos of the warios, snakes, and MKs ppl have to face in tournaments in the good ol' US of A.I agree with the bold fully. I might even quote this when someone says "stop trying to make this game melee". Melee was a game edging on ideal (I'll concede it could have been better balanced) why would we not want to make brawl like it?
Anyway how is fox viable? Doesn't he get ***** by pika, sheik, and anyone who has a chain/lock of some sort?
more on topic: the marth looked good despite how bad the fox was. It was clear he knew the matchup and that he has a great handle of marth. I'd really love to see japanese pro come over here to see how they would do in our campy, mk-saturated meta, but when I looked at the pre-reg for genesis no one from japan was there. o.o can anyone explain?
Those characters are all well above average and have good matchups against popular characters. Even if that one matchup was **** for them (which I don't think it is) it wouldn't matter. Either way, I'll check fox's matchups now to see if he's as good as pierce suggests.pikachu CG 95% of the cast doesn't make characters like snake falco or d3 any less viable.
DB > Uair is legit. Every marth should be using it.
I'm not sure how unbias the match ups in the fox boards will be. They used to have him even with MK I'm not sure if they still do though.Those characters are all well above average and have good matchups against popular characters. Even if that one matchup was **** for them (which I don't think it is) it wouldn't matter. Either way, I'll check fox's matchups now to see if he's as good as pierce suggests.
@Backlash: lol I didn't even think of that. Tbh, I'd like to play in their relatively aggressive melee-esque meta. It'd be a lot more exciting.
Well it's Marth. He goes even with God.I just checked and fox's matchups were pretty horrible. He had like two useful good matchups against rob and toon link and the tl one isn't really that useful.
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=186742
Anyone with "lol" as a matchup number is probably not viable.
edit: in fairness every other character has been supposed to go even with/beat mk. Even marth a while back iirc.
lol Japan says fight with honor, U.S. says it isn't despicable if everyone else is doing it.You answered your own question. I wouldnt want to go to the US if i saw the videos of the warios, snakes, and MKs ppl have to face in tournaments in the good ol' US of A.
I suppose that means all the japanese players who decided to come over to the US committed seppekku upon losing to the first MK scrub who 3 stocked them upon arrival.lol Japan says fight with honor, U.S. says it isn't despicable if everyone else is doing it.
*Imagines japanese players bringing katanas/hodachis/wakizashis/whatever with them going to international events*I suppose that means all the japanese players who decided to come over to the US committed seppekku upon losing to the first MK scrub who 3 stocked them upon arrival.
*not a refference to the skill lvl of japanese players*
From Kel
Japanese tier list:
SS:
Metaknight, Snake
S:
Falco, Pit
A:
Diddy, King Dedede, Marth, Fox, Mr. Game and Watch
Wario, Captain Olimar, Wolf, R.O.B, Lucario
B:
Zelda + Sheik, Toon Link, Zero Suit Samus, Ice Climbers, Pikachu, Donkey Kong
C:
Peach, Kirby, Mario, Luigi, Ike
D:
Lucas, Bowser
E:
Link, Pokemon Trainer, Sonic, Jigglpuff
F:
Ness, Yoshi, Samus, Captain Falcon
G:
Ganondorf
My friend went on to tell me that they don't REALLY think Ganon is in a low tier by himself, but they put him in G tier because it stands for "ganondor tier"
O_o We lookin at the same video?more on topic: the marth looked good despite how bad the fox was. It was clear he knew the matchup and that he has a great handle of marth.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0hXrEf_o5g
^This. When it came out i vouched for the techinical skill of the japanese but the cg was shot down as "bad player di" and the rest of the video was placed in the round file.. Just thought I'd throw that out there. The cg is around 1:50 for those who want to watch just that part.
My bad. The video you posted is at the top of page 2- not 1. >_>I think that yall arent looking at the same video. Aro meant the video in the OP, while you clearly were looking at the video i posted.
Wut? Does not compute.My bad. The video you posted is at the top of page 2- not 1. >_>