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Reminds me of the early days of Brawl, where everyone wanted to make stupid names for everything ever for no reason at all what-so-ever. Likely because people were eager to find new advanced techniques and be heroes. The majority of terms that have stuck to this day are still ridiculous and unnecessary.
No such thing as cheap, only bad or lazy players that cant adapt.
Yes this is a very interesting aspect of the change to me to. It doesn't seem that either player has an advantage over in the other if the player that was bumped has at least the second jump and recovery special available. Worst case scenario here in my opinion is that the bumped player goes into helpless, but something tells me that's not the case.
This one post made me realise just how much this mechanic buffs Kirby. Playing Kirby right, your air time will never be much lower than your opponent and often it'll be much higher. It is therefore safe to say that he will almost always out prioritise when recovering and likely hog like no other either (send the foe off with an aerial and you can viably outprioritise their recovery). From the ledge shunt, Kirby can then drop and have full air mobility back, meaning that unless the opponent regains control near instantly he can cuttercide or worse.
It Buffs his edge guarding/gimping game but nerfs his planking game. I'd say the buff is much better than the nerf, however. Kirby4toptier
He's considered 3rd best character in the game. He isn't held back at all. MK is just flat out better then the rest of the cast in Brawl and ICs have an infinite CG on the whole cast.
That's pretty par for the course in this place.
I don't think I've seen a Kirby ledge plank in any of the singles videos I've watched and only briefly as part of a swallowcide tactic in doubles. I'll admit I planked against Giga Bowser and friends but, against anyone with normal physics, I'd never even consider it. A buff to his edge game is far more important than a reduction in any potential stalling tactic.
I dunno if you just read exactly what it says and relate it to the picture provided it looks like Link over prioritized Mario's ledge grab to grab for himself. I do not see how it would/ could not work for tethers as well. If it does work in the manner that many presume it does then a lot of characters with garb recovery like Link, Ganon, or other characters with tether capabilities will benefit greatly.
> Ganon
Yeah, that's what i said. The buff that he gets from the new ledge physics far outweighs the planking game that he used to have (which was basically a nerfed meta knight planking game). It seems that bright days are coming for our little puffball
How dare you say that to me.....
Not "grab recovery", garb recovery as in garbage. I didn't say anything about link using his tether to grab the ledge in the picture :S
Fireball was actually a decent attack in the PAL version. It traded with sword slashes (both players damaged) and ploughed through projectile spamming.What would you want instead, and please don't tell me the burning attack
Ummmmm, ok.
Fire ball attack in melee was a joke, do you really want that back? I don't, unless its modified to be actually useful, i'd say the spin is fine. Sakurai could just make the attack faster, since the spin is actually pretty quick in the kirby games.
Yup, and it's looking pretty good in this video
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I'm not the best at this talking thing, but the comment and picture pretty much suggest that edge-hogging (dropping off the stage to occupy the ledge and keep the other player from recovering) has received a bit of a nerf because players can now trump each others edge grab. That's the big thing that this means anyway.
Okay, thanks.
That was what prompted my original comment. Had it not been in the video, I would have assumed the "new dash attack each game" precedent would continue.
Not sure what you mean on number 1 but its damage and knockback were both boosted in the PAL version and, IIRC, this somehow made the move less CCable. It is possible it does leave you open at the end but, if you use the move right, that should never be an issue. It carries on going through projectiles, shields and any non-reflective attack. To the best of my knowledge, the only move that can safely hit Kirby through it is Mario's Cape.
It could be mediocre.
Characters are now able to grab the ledge while another character is grabbing. However we don't know the limitations of the mechanic, like if it works on tethers or not or other stuff.
Why do people always harp on Ganon's recovery, it actually isn't the bad. It actually pretty good far a vertical recovery and has a trolo factor to it. It's everything else that makes him horrible in Brawl xD.
There's also the possibility that... you know. IF they brought Fireball back it wouldn't have to have the same properties it used to?
I would like it to keep the transient (you hit me, I hit you, nobody clanks) hitbox but otherwise, sure. Whatever works.
