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New Characters for Project M Discussion Thread (Voting Closed)
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Nefnoj
Smash Lord
So much fascinating drama!
The Stoopid Unikorn
Spiciest of Guacamoles
But what about Youn... Oh right!
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Xermo
Smash Champion
The "M" stopped standing for Melee a while ago.
Also pichu is useless and the roster slots don't need to be taken up by more poke-clones (that is if the dantarion finding a way to bypass the 7 slot limit thing is true).
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HanAmes
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Just imagine if all of us could make our own potential characters...if he DOES manage to find a way beyond the 7 slot limit....
chipz
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implying that they wouldn't make him not useless?
which other poke clones are you referring to? they're all very different thus far
Chzrm3
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Haha, I think I'm the only person on these boards that wants both Young Link and Pichu to come back. I'm pretty sure nobody agrees with me on that one. >: DBut what about Youn... Oh right!
IDK, I miss Young Link. Every time I play Melee he's all I want to play, he's just so much fun. There's a tenacity to him that TL just doesn't have. I can't quite put my finger on it, but man, he's so fun.
They're not trying to directly make this melee 2, otherwise Dr. Mario would be a character and not a costume. Plus bringing Young link back would be pointless because they actually gave some of Young links attributes to Toon Link(his fire spike for example). Pichu I guess they could make unique and good somehow but a character his size would probably have almost no good match ups, being that small means he has tiny reach so any sword character and characters with reach longer than Pichu's would be a nightmare for the lil guy. Overall I'm not interested in seeing Pichu back
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>Beyond Muh Seven Slots
I understand the mentality behind this, i do, but think for a second - 7 extra characters is probably enough for the PMDT to have to worry about considering the balance of the game, BESIDES the overhauls required on the vanilla cast. adding characters indefinetly for years to come just seems like a balancing nightmare. also, remember the new characters' vocal assets have to replace something in the game already, hence some of the subspace bosses using roy and mewtwo's soundbits. and then on top of that there's the limit of the 2GB sd card, only so much will fit.
with the extra 7 characters, there's a potential roster total of 46. considering everything that's required, i think that's more than enough.
and with that, I'd like certain stars of various non-Pokemon GBA games that got unfairly snuffed in smash to have a chance to shine.
and god damn we have 7 pokemon already, smallerpikachu is a waste of an idea.
I understand the mentality behind this, i do, but think for a second - 7 extra characters is probably enough for the PMDT to have to worry about considering the balance of the game, BESIDES the overhauls required on the vanilla cast. adding characters indefinetly for years to come just seems like a balancing nightmare. also, remember the new characters' vocal assets have to replace something in the game already, hence some of the subspace bosses using roy and mewtwo's soundbits. and then on top of that there's the limit of the 2GB sd card, only so much will fit.
with the extra 7 characters, there's a potential roster total of 46. considering everything that's required, i think that's more than enough.
and with that, I'd like certain stars of various non-Pokemon GBA games that got unfairly snuffed in smash to have a chance to shine.
and god damn we have 7 pokemon already, smallerpikachu is a waste of an idea.
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THE_MAAFIA
Smash Ace
Lady Bow from paper mario would be awesome
She could have as many jumps as Kirby, could be 3D or paper like G&W, her down B could pull out the fan item (like how peach uses items!) shield breaks FTW! :3 what do you guys think? She's a sticker in brawl BTW
She could have as many jumps as Kirby, could be 3D or paper like G&W, her down B could pull out the fan item (like how peach uses items!) shield breaks FTW! :3 what do you guys think? She's a sticker in brawl BTW
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Nefnoj
Smash Lord
The only reason I want them back is simply because I want them for the purpose of every Smash character being in the game, haha.
And 'cause I trust clones in the hands of the Project M team. They made Roy FUN! I imagine they could do the same with other clones.
As cool as she would be, I think she's too much of a minor character, she's only appeared in three games, twice as a minor cameo? I think, if they were to add any Paper Mario characters, it would HAVE to be Paper Mario himself, maybe he could have a standard special or taunt that cycles through his partners in the Paper Mario games who operate similarly to the Luma, all of whom change his standard special.
OrangeSodaGuy
Smash Journeyman
I'm still totally down to see the Pichu Bros should there be a spot open. They'd be a viable team together, but you'd still have the option to hold R and play as a lone pichu, serving as the intentionally underpowered joke character. /brokenrecord
Slippy would also be hilarious if they actually decide to add him. As another poster noted in one thread, sometimes characters can be fun because they're not the best.
On a more relevant note, I was thinking that Knuckles would look good in a Phantasy Star cosplay, of either Rolf or Chaz (Phantasy Star 2 and 4 respectively.
Rolf:
Chaz:
Failing that, a Gunstar Heroes or Streets of Rage costume would be boss:
Axel (Streets of Rage):
Gunstar Red:
Dino Domain
Smash Rookie
Were the results of this posted anywhere? I don't really feel like wading through 550+ posts of random banter and google search isn't helping.
JCOnyx
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Nefnoj
Smash Lord
I'm having trouble seeing two Pichus doing very well, it'd be easy to confuse which Pichu you are, and I feel like since his moveset isn't designed from duet-play unlike Ice Climbers and Rosalina and Luma, it'd be a bit difficult to work with. Of course, with Project M in charge, they'd make it work. They're gods, they can make ANYTHING work.
I personally really want to see Pichu having something similar to Lucario/Lucas in terms of charging up: With every attack that Pichu does that harms himself, it builds up his electrical attacks, visually emitting a small electrical field, increasing his smash attack range and maybe power. Once it's fully charged, his down special could have a small electrical explosion, with devastating knockback, that you'd have to re-charge up again.
Of course, I'm no Pokémon expert, so that mechanic might not actually be canon...
I WOULD LOVE THIS. THIS WOULD MAKE ME HAPPY.
But he needs a huge jump. Maybe his moveset could be based on irritating your opponent: The blaster makes everyone trip, his up special summons a Nintendog, his side special would reverse the stage like Palkia, down special turns him invisible, and his taunts spawns thousands of activated smoke balls that lag your Wii.
Please don't take me seriously on this.
Please.
THE_MAAFIA
Smash Ace
Paper Mario would be cool, only thing I don't like is that his hammer might be a clone of G&W's hammer
Nefnoj
Smash Lord
Naw, I think it should be a Smash attack and a few standards, he has the perfect animations and everything! Have you ever seen Paper Mario punch, kick, or do anything like that? Maybe he should use his hammer for all standards.
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Tetraplex
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What's this? I haven't seen mention of Bandana Dee in a while!
Parasol recovery, spear-fighting up close and as a projectile! He'd be awesome!
Parasol recovery, spear-fighting up close and as a projectile! He'd be awesome!
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Super_Primid
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cothero
Smash Lord
So, now that Skull Kid was debunked as fake, is Sami really going to be a playable character in PM?
So, I hosted a small scale tourney last night.
people were pretty hype to see Mewtwo and Roy again, and course at the prospect of more new characters. particularly (and Potentially) two of them.
we've known that for ages.
No one knows for sure in this thread. I suspect Warchamp7 was covering tracks though.
people were pretty hype to see Mewtwo and Roy again, and course at the prospect of more new characters. particularly (and Potentially) two of them.
>now
we've known that for ages.
No one knows for sure in this thread. I suspect Warchamp7 was covering tracks though.
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Dino Domain
Smash Rookie
Lol I realized already seen that. What I meant was did PMBR ever confirm which characters were in?
The Stoopid Unikorn
Spiciest of Guacamoles
I don't see the difference with Axe's Pikachu
Xermo
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This poll isn't official, y'know.
Lorenzo The Comic
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Do we seriously want three Links in the same game? While it'd be nice to have every Melee character in Project M, but at the same time we'll have too many clones, using up the Clone Engine Character slots.
Where do I begin? Let's see... two Links with practically the same voice, from different Smash Bros. games. There doesn't appear to be enough obvious differences to warrant three Links. I personally prefer Toon Link, though. Notice how Dr. Mario is an alternate costume for Mario in Project M, rather than a separate character?
I can see Pichu differing in some way further, like how Ganondorf has a new Neutral-B move. Looking up the moves it can learn on Bulbapedia, maybe give Pichu a new Side+B move? Pichu can't even learn Skull Bash in G/S/C. I'm thinking of Iron Tail or Wild Charge for a new Side+B move. Reversal could be a Down+B counter move like Marth's. Oh who am I to make suggestions? But still, it's a pre-evolution of Pikachu and that's probably one of the biggest reasons I wouldn't want Pichu.
Where do I begin? Let's see... two Links with practically the same voice, from different Smash Bros. games. There doesn't appear to be enough obvious differences to warrant three Links. I personally prefer Toon Link, though. Notice how Dr. Mario is an alternate costume for Mario in Project M, rather than a separate character? I can see Pichu differing in some way further, like how Ganondorf has a new Neutral-B move. Looking up the moves it can learn on Bulbapedia, maybe give Pichu a new Side+B move? Pichu can't even learn Skull Bash in G/S/C. I'm thinking of Iron Tail or Wild Charge for a new Side+B move. Reversal could be a Down+B counter move like Marth's. Oh who am I to make suggestions? But still, it's a pre-evolution of Pikachu and that's probably one of the biggest reasons I wouldn't want Pichu.
Nefnoj
Smash Lord
I thought the same, especially since they gave Toon Link most of Young Link's moves. They would have to semi-clonify Toon Link and/or Young Link MUCH further for him to be any different. And, of course, the whole Mask Transformation think wouldn't be possible without taking up three whole slots.Do we seriously want three Links in the same game? While it'd be nice to have every Melee character in Project M, but at the same time we'll have too many clones, using up the Clone Engine Character slots.
This guy's a good thinker.
I like this guy.
Did you hear my idea for Pichu earlier? I mentioned a charge-based suggestion akin to Lucas based on Pichu's self-damage, thought it might be a good change.
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Lorenzo The Comic
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Nefnoj
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You're a good person. You know it.
RoyMustang
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1 Vote:
Ridley
Tetra (On her own, I don't want Toon Zelda to be a transformation or anything like that)
Isaac
Waluigi
Black Shadow/Ganon
1/2 Vote
Krystal
Dixie
Shadow
Liquid
Edit: Oops, I wasn't paying attention. Didn't see that it said voting closed. My bad.
Ridley
Tetra (On her own, I don't want Toon Zelda to be a transformation or anything like that)
Isaac
Waluigi
Black Shadow/Ganon
1/2 Vote
Krystal
Dixie
Shadow
Liquid
Edit: Oops, I wasn't paying attention. Didn't see that it said voting closed. My bad.
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JCOnyx
Smash Ace
I give you a thumbs up for 1/2 voting Liquid though. Poor guy only really got support early in the threads life, and I'll agree Sami is probably the better choice.
That mullet tho.
That mullet tho.
So I have indeed picked up Golden Sun off of the Wii U Eshop.
Truth be told, the game just seems to be a collection of mechanics from other JRPGs that have been stuck together under an "If it isn't broken, don't fix it" mentality. not saying it's bad, but it's a bit on the generic side, at least so far. As for the Djinn themselves, unless i'm mistaken, they seem to be just an equipable buff and major Psynergy attack that have to recover every now and then.
i can see this working on a potential Project M Isaac in a similar manner to the monado arts that Shulk has in Sm4sh. and even moreso like Samus' beam change in project M where it changes the effects a few of her moves.
also Isaac's standard attack animation is almost identical to link's first strike of his fsmash.
Truth be told, the game just seems to be a collection of mechanics from other JRPGs that have been stuck together under an "If it isn't broken, don't fix it" mentality. not saying it's bad, but it's a bit on the generic side, at least so far. As for the Djinn themselves, unless i'm mistaken, they seem to be just an equipable buff and major Psynergy attack that have to recover every now and then.
i can see this working on a potential Project M Isaac in a similar manner to the monado arts that Shulk has in Sm4sh. and even moreso like Samus' beam change in project M where it changes the effects a few of her moves.
also Isaac's standard attack animation is almost identical to link's first strike of his fsmash.
Rhubarbo
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Golden Sun shines in exploration. Every region you visit has a distinct and charming culture, so the stakes for saving the world get higher with every area you visit. Golden Sun also has some of the best puzzles in any JRPG I've ever played. The combat and story are good and nothing more, but those parts of the game are the sugar on top. If Golden Sun had deeper characters and harder battles, I reckon it would be the best handheld RPG of its generation.
As for Isaac, I would appreciate multiple elemental states as a gimmick of his, but only if switching between them is not too intrusive. Olimar was built on this concept and he flopped hard.
Nefnoj
Smash Lord
I enjoyed it, and that's coming from someone TERRIBLE at RPG's!
That would be an awesome gimmick! Though I disagree about the Olimar bit, I was always conscious of which Pikmin was selected. I wouldn't always cycle through them as you could with the down-special, but would always utilize each one properly as they were selected. He's my sweet main!
Again, most other JRPGs do these to the same or a just flat out better extent. I concede I'm only playing the first one right now, and it's not like I dislike it. it is just noticeably rather... plain, so far for a game of it's genre.
but we're talking like shulk or samus.
and as far as "elemental damage" goes in smash there's never been any actual effect from them in particular, they're purely cosmetic. even samus' ice attack cosmetics are only there to remind you her moves have changed some properties - it's not like all ice attacks in the game have the same effects (trajectory of knockback, a chance to freeze, ect.)
tapping b to have issac cycle through the 4 elements ala monado arts shulk to change the properties of some moves doesn't sound too far fetched, or "intrusive".
failing all this, a magic swordsman like robin seems doable.
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