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Samus' Side Taunt changes some of her attacks. Shulk's stances thing changes his attributes. I am talking about more complicated stuff. There are enough limitations that get in the way. I know they are really good at this, but they don't know everything about SSBB's coding, they can't do something outside of PSA limits. They can't create unique characters like Rosalina or give transformation final smashes or just any completly unique final smashes. They have limits to what they can do. Brawl's developers had only file size limits. They can't do anything. But what they did while under those limits is still impressive.
>episode 1
What analogy? I remember going to the theater and seeing Ridley and Issac have a heated debate over the ethics of the White Knights and the Flamers on a molten pillar in the middle of "indescript-underground-volcano-topia" quite vividly.
No. But if he would be playable, his final smash would be a very long information dump that ends with question "Did you understood any of this?" with 2 answers for it - "No." and "Um...not really". Then he repeats until you turn off the game because pause button is disabled and timer for the match stops.
That is just exaggerated version of Marth's tipper mechanic ("hit or miss" instead of "hit properly with high damage and knockback or hit with average damage and knockback"), but with a single projectile. Interesting - yes, unique - no. I mean something like Ice Climbers, Zelda/Shiek, Lucario, Rosalina, etc. Something that obviously can't be done with limits they have (Lucario's aura gimmick can't be properly replicated, only in the way they did with PM Lucario, no damage increase or something like that).
Well considering at that point this thread would have no purpose whatsoever, I see no reason to keep it open. What would we even talk about? How salty we are X didn't get in?
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What is the difference between vbrawl Olimar and PM Olimar? Never noticed it.@
I'd consider both an inability to attack up-close and the ability to allow attacks to pass right through her to be unique mechanics, but if you mean strictly that which works outside of the Smash standards:
Lucario's on-hit-cancels are a completely original ability, as well as gaining XP from hitting opponents which can then be spent on super-versions of any of his specials.
Olimar's Pikmin budding may have been in Brawl, but it had no effect and only became a proper mechanic in PM.
I'd consider Solar Beam to count if Shulk's stuff does, considering that Ivysaur can gain charge from a B-move (that also heals), from sweetspotting some normals (which also heals her and puts a flower on the apponent), and even pummeling (which also heal).
And on the topic of Lucario, there has yet to be an implementation of a Rage mechanic in Smash that didn't suck, something which I believe is appropriate and possible for Ridley.
Holy crap that is an amazing Ridley moveset suggestion@
I personally don't see adding "unique" characters as a priority. I think that's a mandate for a workload that's way too much for a team that's doing this in their own free time and don't have access to the development tools that Sakurai would have. All they really need to add is something fresh, and that can easily be achieved by even creating clones.
This poll has no impact on which characters are added. It's just here for fan input.
Probably unnecessary. By the way things sound, we probably won't even get 5 new characters.
Yeah, it's best to not take even the current possibilities for granted. PMDT are dedicated, but assuming Mewtwo's 700 hours is about how long every single one would take, 700 * 5 = 3500 hours for five characters. That's insane by any standards, and they don't have many animators to divide the load amongst. Making actual clones cuts down that time a bit, but you can't just expect that much from someone who's not getting paid and then suggest they switch to another system so they can do even more.
Not to take away from the effort put forth for Mewtwo and Roy; that time frame of 700~ hours is a bit outdated now that animations are able to be imported/exported from Maya - before most things had to be done directly in BrawlBox. Your main point still stands, of course (and the fact that any new characters would have to be completely designed from scratch most likely increases the production time past that figure anyway, outside of Pichu I suppose), but this does make things a bit easier on the PMDT compared to over a year ago.
Hello Post #20982, how are you doing today?
first off, if we are being realistic, taking into account their own time they can spend on it, and what they've already exhausted on the new features of the eventual incoming 3.5 release (animations, skins, stages, game modes ect), i'd estimate that they'd still have had enough time to implement 1, or remotely possibly 2, characters, since last release, depending on how they are built. i at least don't think it's too optimistic to be hoping for 1 new character come the release.
That is why (semi-)clones are better for Project M. Doesn't means it will be worth it in all cases.
You are Gannon-banned for last part of your post. Skull Kid you are talking about is just a Skull Kid that wears Majora's Mask. Those 2 are separate beings.
Ah, good to have it confirmed. That's pretty much as I expected.
BAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA this thread.
Yess. I think they mainly focused on the gameplay for 3.5, so that in 4.0 there are only a few changes to do.
