New Characters for Project M Discussion Thread (Voting Closed)

[Exodo]

Too big :X

na i was joking, Dark Samus for the win!!! and the only way i would like to see ridley is if he is made in a more humanoid way example(obviously smaller): EDIT-(sorry for big image dont know how to put in spoiler :l)

 

[TRJV]

EDIT-(sorry for big image dont know how to put in spoiler :l)

[ spoiler ](To start) [ /spoiler ](To end) without the spaces.

 

[Exodo]

[ spoiler ](To start) [ /spoiler ](To end) without the spaces.

thanks for the info!!

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it worked!!!

 

[Ginge]

We can vote for members of Smashboards now?

+1/2 to Shin F. Who would obviously be cloned off Ness

 

[Sour Supreme]

Shin would be a Peach clone because both of them are tripping on acid.

 

[Grey Belnades]

Is P:M having a side event at EVO? If so, is it being streamed? Maybe there's a chance they'll have something shown.

 

[Zapster]

is there a way for me to check how many votes DAISY has? is it even in the OP?

I was thinking the same thing.

Here I posted this already but no one seemed to notice...

Daisy-- She could be a hi-octane clone of Peach that has a faster aerial jump with better vertical speed in the air but no float ability or turnips. If she doesn't have turnips she should have a meteor strike for her down air so she can still finish off the stage opponents at times when Peach would gimp with a turnip. She would run faster like a captain Falcon or Sonic like Peach. Maybe give her only the tennis side smash and have that able to reflect projectiles.

I'd prefer her to still be in her iconic dress but still run fast. I guess would prefer her classical sundress with the short sleeve and changing her crown to a golden crown. Maybe even reuse Melee Peach' run animation for more nostalgia?

People have been wanting her in since Melee and let's face it, shes not getting into a Sakurai made game anytime soon. Plus Peach was a top tier character in Melee that was good but really struggled against characters with fast ground mobility when the pressure was on. I mained Peach in Melee and got top 3 in a tournament in Chicago back in 2006 and continue to play her. I strongly feel Daisy should get a slot in PM. It would it distinguish itself from SSB4 which has Rosalina and Daisy will definitely not be getting a roster spot in that game.

What if Daisy's character was even based off of her with the fire flower which would give her fire abilities and more strength/ range? Most Mario characters shoot fire balls with the fire flower but don't you think it would be cool to have a character who got the fire flower and became a close range combatant with blazing hands instead? Could be very interesting!

Toon Zelda-- I don't really care for the character but given Zelda is a more glass cannon type I think having a smaller size and being more agile would make Toon Zelda a powerful character. Plus it would be easier to sweetspot with her smaller size.

If she were to happen, she needs SSB4 Zelda's Din's fire. Brawls was excessive and useless against a good player but the power of the newest version seems offensive. It should be faster to keep up with melee but not able to be spammable.

Ridley-- I just have always wanted Ridley in Smash but if he's too hard to do then Dark Samus would be fine I guess. Plus he and K. Rool could get a spot in SSB4 but Ridley is the most Bad a** character in Nintendo and would be very unique.

K. Rool-- Another DK character would be cool especially another heavy weight villain. he could bring some diversity to the roster

Bowser Jr.-- He could either be a clone or have an original moveset so it would allow PMBR to do what they have time for or whats best for the balance of the game. Plus that would bring the super mario series up to 6 with Daisy so it wouldn't seem like Nintendo's flagship series is so outnumbered by Pokemon and Zelda characters.

I give +1 to these characters

 

[Zapster]

is there a way for me to check how many votes DAISY has? is it even in the OP?

I was thinking the same thing.

Here I posted this already but no one seemed to notice...

Daisy-- She could be a hi-octane clone of Peach that has a faster aerial jump with better vertical speed in the air but no float ability or turnips. If she doesn't have turnips she should have a meteor strike for her down air so she can still finish off the stage opponents at times when Peach would gimp with a turnip. She would run faster like a captain Falcon or Sonic like Peach. Maybe give her only the tennis side smash and have that able to reflect projectiles.

I'd prefer her to still be in her iconic dress but still run fast. I guess would prefer her classical sundress with the short sleeve and changing her crown to a golden crown. Maybe even reuse Melee Peach' run animation for more nostalgia?

People have been wanting her in since Melee and let's face it, shes not getting into a Sakurai made game anytime soon. Plus Peach was a top tier character in Melee that was good but really struggled against characters with fast ground mobility when the pressure was on. I mained Peach in Melee and got top 3 in a tournament in Chicago back in 2006 and continue to play her. I strongly feel Daisy should get a slot in PM. It would it distinguish itself from SSB4 which has Rosalina and Daisy will definitely not be getting a roster spot in that game.

What if Daisy's character was even based off of her with the fire flower which would give her fire abilities and more strength/ range? Most Mario characters shoot fire balls with the fire flower but don't you think it would be cool to have a character who got the fire flower and became a close range combatant with blazing hands instead? Could be very interesting!

Toon Zelda-- I don't really care for the character but given Zelda is a more glass cannon type I think having a smaller size and being more agile would make Toon Zelda a powerful character. Plus it would be easier to sweetspot with her smaller size.

If she were to happen, she needs SSB4 Zelda's Din's fire. Brawls was excessive and useless against a good player but the power of the newest version seems offensive. It should be faster to keep up with melee but not able to be spammable.

Ridley-- I just have always wanted Ridley in Smash but if he's too hard to do then Dark Samus would be fine I guess. Plus he and K. Rool could get a spot in SSB4 but Ridley is the most Bad a** character in Nintendo and would be very unique.

K. Rool-- Another DK character would be cool especially another heavy weight villain. he could bring some diversity to the roster

Bowser Jr.-- He could either be a clone or have an original moveset so it would allow PMBR to do what they have time for or whats best for the balance of the game. Plus that would bring the super mario series up to 6 with Daisy so it wouldn't seem like Nintendo's flagship series is so outnumbered by Pokemon and Zelda characters.

I give +1 to these characters

 

[Alfonzo Bagpipez]

I was thinking the same thing.

Here I posted this already but no one seemed to notice...

Daisy-- She could be a hi-octane clone of Peach that has a faster aerial jump with better vertical speed in the air but no float ability or turnips. If she doesn't have turnips she should have a meteor strike for her down air so she can still finish off the stage opponents at times when Peach would gimp with a turnip. She would run faster like a captain Falcon or Sonic like Peach. Maybe give her only the tennis side smash and have that able to reflect projectiles.

I'd prefer her to still be in her iconic dress but still run fast. I guess would prefer her classical sundress with the short sleeve and changing her crown to a golden crown. Maybe even reuse Melee Peach' run animation for more nostalgia?

People have been wanting her in since Melee and let's face it, shes not getting into a Sakurai made game anytime soon. Plus Peach was a top tier character in Melee that was good but really struggled against characters with fast ground mobility when the pressure was on. I mained Peach in Melee and got top 3 in a tournament in Chicago back in 2006 and continue to play her. I strongly feel Daisy should get a slot in PM. It would it distinguish itself from SSB4 which has Rosalina and Daisy will definitely not be getting a roster spot in that game.

What if Daisy's character was even based off of her with the fire flower which would give her fire abilities and more strength/ range? Most Mario characters shoot fire balls with the fire flower but don't you think it would be cool to have a character who got the fire flower and became a close range combatant with blazing hands instead? Could be very interesting!

Toon Zelda-- I don't really care for the character but given Zelda is a more glass cannon type I think having a smaller size and being more agile would make Toon Zelda a powerful character. Plus it would be easier to sweetspot with her smaller size.

If she were to happen, she needs SSB4 Zelda's Din's fire. Brawls was excessive and useless against a good player but the power of the newest version seems offensive. It should be faster to keep up with melee but not able to be spammable.

Ridley-- I just have always wanted Ridley in Smash but if he's too hard to do then Dark Samus would be fine I guess. Plus he and K. Rool could get a spot in SSB4 but Ridley is the most Bad a** character in Nintendo and would be very unique.

K. Rool-- Another DK character would be cool especially another heavy weight villain. he could bring some diversity to the roster

Bowser Jr.-- He could either be a clone or have an original moveset so it would allow PMBR to do what they have time for or whats best for the balance of the game. Plus that would bring the super mario series up to 6 with Daisy so it wouldn't seem like Nintendo's flagship series is so outnumbered by Pokemon and Zelda characters.

I give +1 to these characters

Does that qualify as Quadruple posting because he quotes his former vote post in both of his Double Posts?

 

[Anti Guy]

-1 to Daisy if I haven't already. She has absolutely no importance to Nintendo in general. No games of her own, appeared in one minor game, and is just used as a stock party game character.

 

[Warsaint777]

-1 to Daisy if I haven't already. She has absolutely no importance to Nintendo in general. No games of her own, appeared in one minor game, and is just used as a stock party game character.

I actually agree you with reluctantly, I just like her character for some reason, but my question is how is she any less valuable than Waluigi?

 

[Alfonzo Bagpipez]

I actually agree you with reluctantly, I just like her character for some reason, but my question is how is she any less valuable than Waluigi?

This:

 

[Warsaint777]

Holy sh*t. Dude also have you seen his special in that game? It's so, so sick. I can't find it on youtoobers.

 

[The Revolutionary Cafe]

I actually agree you with reluctantly, I just like her character for some reason, but my question is how is she any less valuable than Waluigi?

Because Waluigi is the second Wario Bro. and it work for Completion sake (Mario & Luigi, Wario & Waluigi) having Daisy in the game wouldn't complete anything aside from adding "another Peach" where Waluigi could have his own moveset as demonstrated by the various PSA's of his that exist for example this one.

 

[Kazyx]

I actually agree you with reluctantly, I just like her character for some reason, but my question is how is she any less valuable than Waluigi?

This:

Holy sh*t. Dude also have you seen his special in that game? It's so, so sick. I can't find it on youtoobers.

Warsaint does have a point here. Waluigi has probably some of the wackkiest potential, on par wityh the obscurity of Brawl Wario and Mr. Game & Watch. In Mario Strikers (Or Mario Football depending upon country of origin), Waluigi has a special known as WALL-uigi, which creates a thick wall of purple thorny vines behind him as he runs. This can be used to prevent opponents' from getting to him, and allowing him incredible crowd control for a short time.

He's also themed usually to use roses or thorny vines overall, but he has seen some other obscure tactics. In Mario Tennis, he has Whirluigi, which made him turn into a miniature tornado to hit the ball back. As well, if the ball was too far across the court to save, your special was [name forgotten], where he swam through the air across the court, simply to hit the ball back to the other side. It was pretty ridiculous.

As well, he shares the Bob-Omb signature with Wario in Mario Kart: Double Dash, and can be just as a jerk.
So while he may not be a loved character persay, he certainly isn't lacking in potential. Prior to his announcement as an Assist, I was supportive of him in both Brawl and Smash 4. He's got the moves (like Jagger) to stand a chance.

Plus, at least he showed up for the role of assist trophy, whereas Daisy got nothing

 

[Warsaint777]

Because Waluigi is the second Wario Bro. and it work for Completion sake (Mario & Luigi, Wario & Waluigi) having Daisy in the game wouldn't complete anything aside from adding "another Peach" where Waluigi could have his own moveset as demonstrated by the various PSA's of his that exist for example this one.

No, that's not right... Waluigi was just made for Mario Tennis so Wario had a partner and Luigi had a rival tennis player for the sake of doubles while Daisy debuted all the way back in Super Mario Land and has since shown up in just as many spin-off games. I mean I get that Waluigi is wacky and fun and whatever but he has no seniority or value over Daisy.

@ Kazyx Why'd you intro with saying I "had a point" then continued to go against it? haha

Can somebody please recall what some of Daisy's moves/themes were in the Super Striker series? Since they were both practically blank slates and the developers gave this thorn/vine theme to Waluigi arbitrarily I want to know what they decided was appropriate for Daisy? That could define her moveset as a potential Smash char. as much as Waluigi.

edit: Ok as I assumed, her super strike equivalent to Wal' thorn thing is like a flowery-shaped energy aura behind her and slams the ball, called 'Flower Burst'.

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edit 2: Oh my gawd dude, I am reading her wiki and it just keeps getting better. Listen to this sh*t:

"Her Super Ability is Crystal Smash!, which covers the surrounding ground with sharp orange crystals, blasting away anyone in the range, while her Mega Strike involves her shooting into the air and generating a crystal gauntlet on one of her arms, which she uses to punch the ball towards the goal. In the game's Striker Challenge Mode, Daisy faces against both Peach and Waluigi. She battles Peach to take the Star Cup championship, and she takes on Waluigi to see if she can get the Brick Wall award for an unprecedented fifth straight year. Her default partners remain as they were in the original."

Here's a pic of her ''Mega Strike' where her body apparently becomes completely encrusted in crystal.

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Finally, here's her 'Super Ability' called 'Crystal Smash'-- A perfect idea for a NUMBER of various and unique moves if I do say so myself.

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So I'm just saying now that with TWO very substantial themes of both Flowers and Crystals, making her a cool and unique character would feel natural. If I didn't know it was hopeless (and a little impractical still regarding her obscurity) I'd give a +1, but sadly I won't/can't.

 

[Kazyx]

No, that's not right... Waluigi was just made for Mario Tennis so Wario had a partner and Luigi had a rival tennis player for the sake of doubles while Daisy debuted all the way back in Super Mario Land and has since shown up in just as many spin-off games. I mean I get that Waluigi is wacky and fun and whatever but he has no seniority or value over Daisy.

@ Kazyx Why'd you intro with saying I "had a point" then continued to go against it? haha

Can somebody please recall what some of Daisy's moves/themes were in the Super Striker series? Since they were both practically blank slates and the developers gave this thorn/vine theme to Waluigi arbitrarily I want to know what they decided was appropriate for Daisy? That could define her moveset as a potential Smash char. as much as Waluigi.

edit: Ok as I assumed, her super strike equivalent to Wal' thorn thing is like a flowery-shaped energy aura behind her.

Oh whoops, didn't even realize you were both of those. ^.^;; I saw the post where you said mentioned his special in Strikers, not realizing you were also the one asking about Daisy's potential. My mistake!

Yeah, Daisy's always been more flower-themed, specifically a daisy or sunflower and those kinds. Peach has always been more about the girly bits and hearts. I kind of want Luigi's thematic electricity to be around, but it isn't essential.

As for when Waluigi is hitting the ball into the net, ala that Daisy picture, he actually whips the ball with one of said thorny vines. Could use that as a sort of tether recovery, thinking about it now...

But for the most part, Daisy has had flower-themed skills, shared Peach's Heart Shield powerup in Double Dash, and just always felt a bit more tomboyish than Peach. She would be interesting, admittedly, and while she's been in a canon game (Super Mario Land), Waluigi actually had one role as well, which is a little unknown. He's a primary villain in Dance Dance Revolution: Mario Mix. So he's got dance skills as well, and with that could come with some fancy footwork and decent speed.

But we're really just playing a guessing game to be honest. We got no idea what the PMBR has in store for us, especially not when they announced that All-Stars VS. That was crazy.

 

[muleet]

If it is still possible to vote, here are my votes :
+1 Krystal
+1 Skull Kid
+1 Sami
+1 Ridley
+1 Lyn

+1/2 Ganondorf/Black Shadow
+1/2 Tails

-1 Dark Samus (Not a very inspired character. I understand that clones are easier to make, but for this one... it would be like having not a real new character.)
-1 Isaac (I'd like more swordsman, but I've never liked the Golden Sun serie, too "naive" and previsible.)
-1 Dixie Kong (Never really liked the DK series either, and Diddy is fine enough to me.)

 

[Sour Supreme]

If it is still possible to vote, here are my votes :
+1 Krystal
+1 Skull Kid
+1 Sami
+1 Ridley
+1 Lyn

+1/2 Ganondorf/Black Shadow
+1/2 Tails

-1 Dark Samus
-1 Isaac
-1 Dixie Kong
-1 Saki

Voting is open! Please provide reasons for your downvotes though.

 

[Warsaint777]

If muleet knew me I'd swear he was trolling me.

 

[Ginge]

I just want to know why someone would upvote Krystal and downvote Dixie Kong...

 

[Alfonzo Bagpipez]

I just want to know why someone would upvote Krystal and downvote Dixie Kong...

"Bcuz Dixie Kang is generic and adds nothing to the table."
"+1 Krystal. She'd make a pretty easy Fox clone, I say."

- Previous Voters from numerous pages ago

 

[Ginge]

"Bcuz Dixie Kang is generic and adds nothing to the table."
"+1 Krystal. She'd make a pretty easy Fox clone, I say."

- Previous Voters from numerous pages ago

*adds to reasons why I hate people*

 

[Warsaint777]

I'm sorry I can't STAND dixie kong

 

[Raijinken]

Time for a vote:

For my top five
+1 Black Shadow/Ganondorf Rework
+1 Hector
+1 Masked Man
+1 Goroh
+1 Sami

For other good ideas
+.5 Ridley
+.5 DSamus
+.5 Lyn (cuz more Fire Emblem = Better, even though I'd rather have Hector)
+.5 Andy
+.5 Isaac
+.5 Saki
+.5 Waluigi
+.5 K Rool
+.5 Ridley

And the Votes Against
-1 Paper Mario. I love the series, but the Marioverse is oversaturated already.
-1 Bowser Jr. Again, the universe is oversaturated.
-1 Toad. He's part of someone else's moveset already, and the universe is oversaturated.
-1 Pichu. We have too many Mons. I would not be opposed to him being created as a stage entity or Pokeballmon, though.
-1 Red/Trainer. Same as Pichu, we have too many characters from that series. Would not mind him being re-added in some supportive appearance though.
-1 Dixie. We already have another chimp.
-1 Skull Kid. The series has enough characters already.
-1 Tetra. Enough characters for the franchise, and we don't need another toon clone.
-1 Krystal. Enough space furries.
-1 Ninten. Even in his own game, he is already essentially the same as Ness (though I guess it's the other way around).
-1 Sukapon. Exceedingly obscure, only one game.
-1 Tom Nook. Would be odd to have a side character just because the player character is being used in Smash
-1 Tails. Sonic character.
-1 Knuckles. Sonic character.
-1 Shadow. Sonic character.

 

[Ginge]

I'm sorry I can't STAND dixie kong

What in particular do you not like about her?

 

[Warsaint777]

What in particular do you not like about her?

Hmm... she just seems to me like diddy kong in a wig. From what I've seen/played she has no unique attributes separate from him. They'd have to make stuff up from scratch. Also-- and this is a notorious viewpoint-- I always viewed the DK cast as borderline 3rd party of Rare and not Nintendo; I know it sounds crazy, but I never shook that feeling. So with that perspective the two DK reps we had always seemed like the perfect amount.

Also, and this is the the least justified reason I hate her, is I just think she's f*** ugly. There is something deeply disturbing to me about a monkey with human blonde hair wearing a tied belly-shirt.

All this being said if she wound up in a smash game with a unique moveset I wouldn't be particularly upset, not considering whatever other potential characters wou'dve been excluded in her stead. Like if she got in and a perfectly good character of an unrepped franchise was left out I'd be pretty pissed.

On that note, @ Raijinken -- I hate to instigate further but can you PLEASE indulge me on why you would vote for Sami before Andy?

 

[The Revolutionary Cafe]

My stupid votes:
Waluigi +1 (Would complete Wario Bros. and would have very unique moveset)
King K. Rool 1+ (Very loved retro villain; will most likely won't be in WiiU/3DS)
Black Shadow & Ganondorf +1 (Would cater greatly to people who want Ganon to be different and people who love Ganon as is)
Dark Samus +1 (Could play very differently from regular Samus, is a well known villain in the Metroid universe and won't be playable in Wii U/3DS.
Cluas +1 (More mother representation, most likely won't be in WiiU/3DS)

My even stupider half votes:
Tom Nook +1/2 (Popular character from popular franchise, half vote because he doesn't have a viable moveset)
Tails +1/2 (Sonic's Luigi, has good moveset potential, only half vote because he is third-party)
Ninten +1/2 (More Mother representation, most most likely won't be in WiiU/3DS, only half vote because similar appearance to Ness
Lyn +1/2 (Well known FE character, good moveset potential, only half vote because would be another sword Wilder)
Andy +1/2 (Somewhat well known, franchise isn't represented, only half vote because would be hard for the PMBR to make)
Issac +1/2 (Would make a unique character from a well known game, only half vote because still a SMALL chance of being in WiiU/3DS
Sukapon +1/2 (Would be an EXTREMELY unique character, came from a fighter so has very viable moveset, only half vote because NO ONE knows who this character is or from)

My not so stupid anti-votes:
Pichu -1 (We already have SEVEN Pokemon and even then PICHU of all freaking pokemon maybe as a pallet swap* for Pikachu)
Pokemon Trainer -1 (What would he do to make him unique? also another Pokemon rep)
Toad -1 (Wouldn't do anything; is forever doomed inside of Peach's dress)

*edited from original post.

 

[Warsaint777]

I have this terrible megalomaniacal suspicion that one of the things prompting this influx of Dark Samus votes is the badass screenshot I posted a ways back. But I may be up my own ass. If so, however, that's frustrating.

Life Lesson: People don't know what they want unless it's shown to them.

 

[Exodo]

"Bcuz Dixie Kang is generic and adds nothing to the table."
"+1 Krystal. She'd make a pretty easy Fox clone, I say."

- Previous Voters from numerous pages ago

but why Krystal.. and not SLIPPY!!!

 

[The Revolutionary Cafe]

I have this terrible megalomaniacal suspicion that one of the things prompting this influx of Dark Samus votes is the badass screenshot I posted a ways back.

Nope. I actually was hoping for Dark Samus in SSB Wii U/3DS but she was then shown as an assist trophy so now pm is like her second chance XD

 

[Warsaint777]

Nope. I actually was hoping for Dark Samus in SSB Wii U/3DS but she was then shown as an assist trophy so now pm is like her second chance XD

Fair enough. But for real. Did you see that screenshot I dumped? It totally represents her badassery.

 

[PlateProp]

...Is Wes/Trainer from Colliseum in Brawl? I feel like he would make a more interesting trainer than Red. Snag balls and all y'know.

 

[The Revolutionary Cafe]

Fair enough. But for real. Did you see that screenshot I dumped? It totally represents her badassery.

No I didn't actually :/

 

[Shin F.]

I have this terrible megalomaniacal suspicion that one of the things prompting this influx of Dark Samus votes is the badass screenshot I posted a ways back. But I may be up my own ***. If so, however, that's frustrating.

Life Lesson: People don't know what they want unless it's shown to them.

She's actually been one of the most-voted-for characters since near the beginning.

 

[Warsaint777]

No I didn't actually :/

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[Ginge]

Hmm... she just seems to me like diddy kong in a wig. From what I've seen/played she has no unique attributes separate from him. They'd have to make stuff up from scratch.

Dixie has a very unique attribute and it's on your list of reasons you don't like her appearance. Her ponytail. She uses it to helicopter (akin to DK's Up-B) and in the most recent game (Tropical Freeze), it even gives her a vertical boost before descent. Also, the way she picks up enemies or boxes is, like DK, over her head (in her ponytail) with the ability to walk around still. Considering she's able to control her ponytail to that extent where she can hang by it off of hooks (or ledges in Smash Bros perhaps?) or lift people with it, then it is also justifiable to use it in attacks. Which she does do in the games, a twirling motion akin to DK's barrel roll or Diddy's cartwheel.

Her little sister, as seen in DK64, could contribute to Dixie's moveset also. Giving her a feather bow (straight line vs. the peanut gun's arc). And her final smash is easily the end level animation from DKC2 where she rocks out on the guitar with her ponytail and it could function either similar to DK (mini rhythm game on the bongos) or more of a quick burst for nearby players.

So she has plenty of potential, from in series, and I don't see the justification to say she's just Diddy Kong in a wig.

Not to mention that she has been in many main-series games for Donkey Kong and was even one of two main characters in two of the best Donkey Kong games (the original DKC series)

 

[TRJV]

I have this terrible megalomaniacal suspicion that one of the things prompting this influx of Dark Samus votes is the badass screenshot I posted a ways back. But I may be up my own ***. If so, however, that's frustrating.

Life Lesson: People don't know what they want unless it's shown to them.

I doubt that had much to do with it. In fact, that screenshot's been posted here before.
Edit

-1 Dark Samus (Not a very inspired character. I understand that clones are easier to make, but for this one... it would be like having not a real new character.)

Dark Samus is actually a very different character than Samus, would absolutely not be a 1:1 clone, and certainly be like having a "new" character.
I'd rant on but I but haven't quite finished* Prime 2, so I'll wait for someone more "qualified" to do so.

*20%

 

[Warsaint777]

I still need more likes on my 'Why Daisy Would Be Cool But Yeah She Has No Chance Anyway" post a page back or so. :3

 

[Ginge]

I don't want to seem like I'm just attacking you and your posts here, Warsaint.... But: Daisy support and Dixie hate? Really?

Some of your Daisy ideas were kinda cool. But if it came down to one or the other of Dixie or Daisy being included, there's NO contest at all that Dixie should be preferred.