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vZakat

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It's almost impossible to offend me. I'm always curious about why people don't like/believe christianity/the bible.
 
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See dinosaur fossils. lol

Seriously though. I hate when athiests discredit the bible and think they're providing evidence against the possible existence of a creator. The bible as nothing to do with God (IF he exists; and this is obviously just my opinion and nothing more) as it was written by man. This is man's world; man is all that is wrong with the world, yet man is also the reason we have made baby steps forward.

Many gospels of Christ were written. Were the most accurate ones selected to be published? Haaayl No, they disappeared (lol). The few that were selected were the ones that the choosers felt had the best chance of starting a following.

Ok I'm stopping now. No more.

Ganon *****

EDIT: PS. Evolution is obviously real and says a lot. *kills self*

Double EDIT: PPPPSSSSSSSS: Hennessy.
 
vZakat

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Well...The bible was indeed written by man but the writers were inspired by and influenced by the spirit of God to write the it. (2 Timothy 3:16). I believe that God didn't just drop down a book because it would be counter productive to why he created mankind (for relationship not just "do what I say").

As far as what you said about the gospels. What proof is there that there were more accurate gospels? Especially if they disappeared. All of the gospels in the bible were written around 75-85AD. All other gospels I've seen were written around 150-200AD.

I don't feel like going super in-depth about it but that what I believe about those subjects. OK,I think that's enough spiritual talk for one day (well not really but I'm sure people are getting annoyed now).

In other news, Roy *****. :cool:

Edit for karn - Why would you let logic dictate your life, because it's most logical to do so?
 
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What proof is there? That is one hell of a question to ask of someone that takes the word "proof" literally. As I said before, no real proof will ever be provided for things that have occurred before our generation's existence. Have you done research on this? If you have, and if you understand the intentions and priorities of the people of that era, and if you keep an open mind, I feel that you will be enlightened.
 
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='/ Ehn! That's why I consider myself Agnostic Christian just because I can't prove.

However, I don't think atheist can prove anything either.

Many religious books are extremely similar if not the same (old testament). I think that's just weird.

I feel like there is something.
And there is something in my heart, a kind of love that is out there. But it all sounds so weird. And I have no idea how or where to explain it.

Honestly, no one really knows. A lot of research can be true, a lot of it can be false.
 
lord karn

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vZakat said:
Well...The bible was indeed written by man but the writers were inspired by and influenced by the spirit of God to write the it. (2 Timothy 3:16). I believe that God didn't just drop down a book because it would be counter productive to why he created mankind (for relationship not just "do what I say").

As far as what you said about the gospels. What proof is there that there were more accurate gospels? Especially if they disappeared. All of the gospels in the bible were written around 75-85AD. All other gospels I've seen were written around 150-200AD.

I don't feel like going super in-depth about it but that what I believe about those subjects. OK,I think that's enough spiritual talk for one day (well not really but I'm sure people are getting annoyed now).

In other news, Roy *****. :cool:

Edit for karn - Why would you let logic dictate your life, because it's most logical to do so?
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I was actually just posting that because people often try to make it sound as if their belief in God is logical.

Knowledge is based in logic. Belief doesn't have to be. I'm not calling anyone out for believing in God, but I will call people out when they claim that they know God exists. (I'm not saying that you are claiming this).

Personally, I believe a lot of things without being able to prove them. In fact, I don't really think you can prove anything with logic.
 
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it is very well possible to be an agnostic christian. gnosticism is separate from theism. gnosticism deals with knowledge, theism deals with belief. agnosticism is not a middle ground between theism and atheism, it is completely different from both of these.

imagine a coordinate plane; the x-axis is theism (belief) and the y-axis is gnosticism (knowledge). you are able to move up and down, left and right on this plane, giving different levels of both gnosticism and theism. while the two different axises can correlate and show patterns, they do not directly affect each other. this is how gnosticism and theism should be treated; not the misconception of a number line, with atheism on one side, theism on side, and agnosticism in the middle.

as there are four quadrants of a coordinate plane, there are four main classes:

gnostic theist = believes in a higher power, and knows there is one. (the most common of the four.)
agnostic theist = believes in a higher power, but does not know if there is one. (less common, but not as uncommon as the gnostic atheist.)
gnostic atheist = believes in no higher power, and knows there isn’t one. (the least common; agnosticism is generally paired with atheism, making this class rare.)
agnostic atheist = belives in no higher power, but doesn’t not know if there is one. (second most common, most self proclaimed atheists AND agnostics fall into this category.)
there also exists the true agnostic, who has absolutely no opinion or belief on higher powers, but this is extremely rare, and a commonly misused term.

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Dorsey said:
I think atheism makes the most sense. I am open-minded, though. I don't label myself as anything.
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Dark Hart said:
No, I was an atheist, and then awesomeness was explained to me through amazement and arrangement, so now I'm more open minded.
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being atheist doesn't make you closed-minded, and neither does being christian. it's very well possible to belong a category of beliefs and be open-minded. I'd consider myself open-minded, and I would consider david open-minded, yet we both have firm beliefs in opposite directions.

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Ron said:
hey, there is a god


trust me, i saw him in my bathroom
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the mother****ing grass *****.

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See dinosaur fossils. lol

Seriously though. I hate when athiests discredit the bible and think they're providing evidence against the possible existence of a creator. The bible as nothing to do with God (IF he exists; and this is obviously just my opinion and nothing more) as it was written by man. This is man's world; man is all that is wrong with the world, yet man is also the reason we have made baby steps forward..
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fundamentalist christians (a minority I would say though) do try to use the bible as "the word of god" and proof of existence.

david, we should talk about this subject in person sometime.
 
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true agnostics aren't really that rare among educated people.

damn. that came out really wrong.

you may wonder why I didn't just change it.


hehehehehe.
 
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Dr Peepee said:
why can't we talk about smash like this you butts
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because religion is an important part of society and culture.

lord karn said:
true agnostics aren't really that rare among educated people.

damn. that came out really wrong.

you may wonder why I didn't just change it.


hehehehehe.
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that's because that agnostic mindset generally tends towards atheism (but not always). almost all intelligent people are going to develop beliefs based on what they have learned.
 
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my like and respect for vzakat is through the roof.


i cant really agree with karns talk of logic though.

because alot of things can change logic as humans advance in knowledge

im sure before they found out the world was round

people thought it was illogical to sail off because of fear they would fall off the earth.

so really, what humans see as logical is just a barrier from things we cant understand.

In the bible it says Gods power far exceeds mans limited imagination.

And im pretty sure thats right.


plus

just look at the universe around us.


if u really think about it

everything is to ****in perfect.

i think evolution occured.

but i also believe god initiated that evolution in the first place.

i mean why is it that we are the only planet in our solar system to have life?

if it was just evolution

why hasn't it happened on any other planet near us? or in the known universe?

and wtf at our planets location

i remember reading a book saying that if our planet was X miles close to the sun, life would burn to death, but if we were X miles away from the sun, we would freeze to death.... but somehow we are at the perfect distance...

hmmm

And "X" is cause i cant remember the numbers.... but they were not big numbers in relation to our planets size.


edit: and if someone answers my question about life on other planets in any form that states " The climate on that planet is not suitable for life"

that is complete BS

all planets started with their own uniqueness of elements.

oxygen, helium, carbon, etc.

so why is it

that earth

a rather young planet of our 9 ( 8, they said pluto aint a planet anymore)

is the one to just spring life?

if it was JUST evolution, it should have happened everywhere. ESPECIALLY the older planets in our system.

and another thing

does anyone find it strange that we are the only planet in the known universe to have liquid h2o?
no other planet has it.....

nah everything is matched up to perfectly

something is in a high power lol
 
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john's open house last night was enjoyable. i beat john in a moneymatch in time splitters 2.

in other news.
 
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ocean, i'm amazed at how much discussion you can start/join super intelligently and with ways that is easy to follow and understand, it's amazing!!

and lol at pp being mad you guys don't talk about smash
 
vZakat

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Dang I missed the second half of the discussion. poo. Oh well, maybe next time. And at PP, I will participate in the next smash discussion when that happens, I may even start it...
 
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i love how he get invisa shine like that, but he can't get up from the ledge to save his life

i saw like 20 get up attacks, a ledge hop double laser (as fox :facepalm:), and some fail wavedash on's

there were also some super amazing wavedash on's though

oh oh i know, y link vs peach, that's an annoying match up

then again most low tiers are for me :(
 
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