My Mafia Academia -- ENDGAME: Bites Za Dusto

[Pyra]

I'm going to cut off this flavor bull**** at the head. Right now.

Harden is a passive quirk ability for me. My active is choosing to protect.

Making your judgements based on flavor is a trap, and you are being extremely misleading with it. I'm 100% against you toDay.

Hoo boy toDay started out more exciting than I anticipated. I gotta sleep soon.

Vote: Z25
I'm on the same page with everyone else. Shouldn't have unvoted earlier and stuck with my first instinct haha. The emotional rollercoaster is real.

But yeah, I'm thinking either you totally misunderstood, or you're totally lying.

 

[Deleted member]

Now now Yuga, you shouldn't be revealing quotes from your DMs... Tsk tsk...

"Oui hon hon baguette."

:V

 

[Pyra]

Again, you as in not werekill but Z25

I'm a dumb

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

What's saying that Quirk Abilities can't be passives? Using it to protect someone else would be what allows it to be redirected, but if he does literally nothing for the night then it makes no sense for it to still be redirected.

And even then, if you redirected Werekill's protection off of Were, then the only result would be that Were would be dead now. Not that Golden would be notified a shot was blocked. Because you're only redirecting Werekill's protection, not the actual kill action from the scum that targeted Were.

And yet, literally no one died.

Ok, so what I get is.

Z25 tried to redirect Werekill to me.
Werekill didn't use an active ability.
Werekill was targeted by the Mafia and thus had his passive activate and use up.

Sound about right?

That is exactly what's going on, yeah.

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

That is exactly what's going on, yeah.

Or at the very least, what's going on according to what was said.

 

[Pyra]

Ok, so what I get is.

Z25 tried to redirect Werekill to me.
Werekill didn't use an active ability.
Werekill was targeted by the Mafia and thus had his passive activate and use up.

Sound about right?

Sounds right to me.
Werekill did not use his ability (allegedly).
Which means that unless Z25 can totally cheese the system and activate his active ability in addition to his passive (lol) then he's probably lying.
Or severely confused.

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

I didn't even buy the initial forger theory. Everything after that is just icing on the cake when it comes to who I should vote.

Vote: Z25

 

[UtopianPoyzin]

This is really odd...

You targeted Werekill, but Werekill already confessed to negating a shot directed at him, and Golden says he never got an alert even though you said you redirected Were to them. Something isn't adding up...

Oh yeah, I got it. You're reading into people's PMs* (said DM earlier, ah well) without actually knowing them, which means you THINK you know secret info...

Continuing my vote from before. I knew there was something fishy yesterday.

Vote: Z25

I'm sold. You shouldn't be assuming that people will be shot based on the info that you think you know; rather, wait for it to go out into the open before you begin a "gotcha". There's a lot here...

 

[Pyra]

Z is just missremembering what Goldie said during the first day phase. I don’t think that really that’s enough to vote for him right now.

Turns out he wasn't.
I wonder if there's a reason you were covering for him.

I didn't even buy the initial forger theory. Everything after that is just icing on the cake when it comes to who I should vote.

This almost feels too easy, there's probably something we're looking past

 

[Pokechu]

I don't understand the votes going towards Z's way. I did see that on D1 he became defensive really quickly but it's been a while so my meta is really rusty, so I'm willing to trust other opinions that isn't out of the norm.

I don't understand what scum!Z has to gain from making up (or actually revealing) a forge and then making a theory that Golden was supposed to be shot instead, etc.... if someone could outline his scummy behavior then that'd be appreciated but his behavior today strikes me more as misunderstood than actually suspicious/anti-town.

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

This almost feels too easy, there's probably something we're looking past

That's also possible.

It's a good thing there's no majority lynch then, since that means we can still undo our votes even if everyone votes Z once we get some new leads,

 

[praline]

Turns out he wasn't.
I wonder if there's a reason you were covering for him.


This almost feels too easy, there's probably something we're looking past

I’m not really covering for him. I truly don’t think Z is a villain.

 

[UtopianPoyzin]

"Oui hon hon baguette."

Pardon my french, but...

BLACK HOLE, and NAVAL LASER

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

NAVAL LASER

... Naval Laser...?

 

[UtopianPoyzin]

... Naval Laser...?

1000% I mean what I said and I said what I meant.

 

[praline]

... Naval Laser...?

Ooooh... that’s Goldie’s character. I don’t really like them lol

 

[UtopianPoyzin]

1000% I mean what I said and I said what I meant.

I misspelled naval, I see what you mean.

 

[Deleted member]

... Naval Laser...?

Yes. Naval Laser.

My Quirk is to fire lasers out of my belly button.

 

[Deleted member]

****, now I misspelled navel.

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

Yes. Naval Laser.

My Quirk is to fire lasers out of my belly button.

Not too far off from canon Broly, right? :V

 

[UtopianPoyzin]

Yes. Naval Laser.

My Quirk is to fire lasers out of my belly button.

Fun fact, turns out it's spelled Navel and I've been spelling it wrong this whole time. Whelp.

 

[UtopianPoyzin]

Okay kids back to mafia, we have 14 users and 21 guests judging us at the moment.

 

[Pyra]

I’m not really covering for him. I truly don’t think Z is a villain.

What gives you that idea?
How could you possibly be able to discern that?

I don't understand the votes going towards Z's way. I did see that on D1 he became defensive really quickly but it's been a while so my meta is really rusty, so I'm willing to trust other opinions that isn't out of the norm.

I don't understand what scum!Z has to gain from making up (or actually revealing) a forge and then making a theory that Golden was supposed to be shot instead, etc.... if someone could outline his scummy behavior then that'd be appreciated but his behavior today strikes me more as misunderstood than actually suspicious/anti-town.

What's your stance on how Z described his role as redirector?
From my perspective, he revealed after Were revealed his supposed role and what happened last Night, and praline reminded him of Golden's request yesterday, so he just kinda glued both ideas together as his claim.



I'm willing to have anyone convince me to unvote if they can.


(I'm going to bed in a bit, but this is getting fun c: )

 

[Pyra]

Golden's quirk is firing a laser out of a maritime warship

 

[praline]

What gives you that idea?
How could you possibly be able to discern that?

Honestly I don’t even know. I probably just want him to be a hero lol

Eh **** it I’ll vote for him. Vote Z25

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

Golden's quirk is firing a laser out of a maritime warship

S.S. Golden is the best ship

 

[Z25]

I just have one question.
Does your redirect count as targeting both Were and myself?

I'm not sure I get what you mean? Do you mean that both of you would get affected? Like say Were was shot, your asking if you both would be?

He literally said that he forgot to do an action for the night.

But here you are, saying he chose to protect himself as his action...

Not to mention that it's uncommon for bodyguards to have a passive one-shot bulletproof.

Yes, but I asked shishoe. Normal abilities and quirk ones can be both be affected by my redirect. It just depends on weather or not the normal ability is counts as the active one, of the quirk counts as an active one.

So my redirect affecting a passive ability is already confirmed to me by shishoe. Hence why I waited before saying that. I also don't get how you can honestly not buy the forger theory or give it any thought..

Your being very protective of Were. When I flip town, you and him would both go down imho.

Also Z25 asking if Golden was shot THEN claiming Redirector absolutely reeks of scum trying to bait an actual Redirector to claim.

Come on, this is an easy lynch. Dude is scummy as hell.

Yes because as a scum I would not only make myself looking extreemly shady, but attract a **** ton of attention, just to bait a redirector out. Who btw, you won't see anyone counter claiming me because there is no one to do so.

Why would I honesty go through that trouble for pointless baitng?

 

[Z25]

Also I think its time we really consider were's claim.

 

[Pyra]

Yes, but I asked shishoe. Normal abilities and quirk ones can be both be affected by my redirect. It just depends on weather or not the normal ability is counts as the active one, of the quirk counts as an active one.

So my redirect affecting a passive ability is already confirmed to me by shishoe. Hence why I waited before saying that. I also don't get how you can honestly not buy the forger theory or give it any thought..

Your being very protective of Were. When I flip town, you and him would both go down imho.

I think it's less defensive of Were and more you're story of what happened and what actually happened don't line up (for instance, the lack of proper alerts).
So either we are misunderstanding you, you're misunderstanding Midni-- Shishoe, or you're lying.

Also I think its time we really consider were's claim.

I've been careful to add "allegedly" and "supposedly" when talking about things he's claimed lol

 

[Deleted member]

Not too far off from canon Broly, right? :V

Nah, he fires blasts from his pecs :V

 

[Z25]

*goes to google something for mha, I get ****ing porn as the first result when I wasn't searching that and safe search is on.

WTF Google

 

[Pyra]

Ignore the fact I used the wrong 'Your'.
It's admittedly a very scummy thing to do to the English language.

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

Yes, but I asked shishoe. Normal abilities and quirk ones can be both be affected by my redirect. It just depends on weather or not the normal ability is counts as the active one, of the quirk counts as an active one.

So my redirect affecting a passive ability is already confirmed to me by shishoe. Hence why I waited before saying that. I also don't get how you can honestly not buy the forger theory or give it any thought..

Your being very protective of Were. When I flip town, you and him would both go down imho.

I'm not being protective of Were. Heck, I didn't even mention him when saying I didn't buy your theory.

I'd behave the exact same way about this regardless of who would be affected and regardless of whether or not Were in involved.

I just don't see the point of wasting a forger on day 1 unless it doesn't have limited uses... but that would be beyond stupid since it'd basically give mafia absolute control of the day flips. This has nothing to do with Were or anyone else, for that matter.

 

[Pokechu]

What's your stance on how Z described his role as redirector?
From my perspective, he revealed after Were revealed his supposed role and what happened last Night, and praline praline reminded him of Golden's request yesterday, so he just kinda glued both ideas together as his claim.



I'm willing to have anyone convince me to unvote if they can.


(I'm going to bed in a bit, but this is getting fun c: )

Could you explain what you mean by how Z glued Golden's and Were's abilities together as his claim? Were's ability was a bodyguard and Golden's was presumably absorbing abilities (not sure if he revealed it?), but Z claimed redirector. All three are very different from each other.

I personally am OK with Z right now, I'm thinking that he just went in too deep because he feels he could've gotten a bingo from his role. But I think he's relying on flavor a bit too much and it's leading him to false conclusions and making him blind to others (yeah he redirected were but 1. bulletproofs are usually passive 2. he didn't redirect the actual kill action that went to Were).

I'm not voting for him because what he's done isn't really scummy, just misunderstood. I don't see why we have to call it a Day when there's still what, 46 hours left?

 

[Z25]

I'm not being protective of Were. Heck, I didn't even mention him when saying I didn't buy your theory.

I'd behave the exact same way about this regardless of who would be affected and regardless of whether or not Were in involved.

I just don't see the point of wasting a forger on day 1 unless it doesn't have limited uses... but that would be beyond stupid since it'd basically give mafia absolute control of the day flips. This has nothing to do with Were or anyone else, for that matter.

Day one forger is not even that uncommon. My aforementioned example of swamp using it was day 1.

It all depends on the person who has it. Do you want to disrupt the town early game, or late game? You decide, that's how forgers work.

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

Day one forger is not even that uncommon. My aforementioned example of swamp using it was day 1.

It all depends on the person who has it. Do you want to disrupt the town early game, or late game? You decide, that's how forgers work.

That's a very fair point, but I'll just say it.

If you can really redirect a passive ability, yet Were also claimed that he survived a shot from his passive bulletproof, then you're most likely lying here because if you indeed redirected this passive, Werekill should be dead as we speak.

 

[Pokechu]

Day one forger is not even that uncommon. My aforementioned example of swamp using it was day 1.

It all depends on the person who has it. Do you want to disrupt the town early game, or late game? You decide, that's how forgers work.

Are you a Bus Driver, or a redirector? They're almost the same thing but still vastly different. Even if you were able to redirect Werekill to Golden, that would only result in a dead Werekill. But a bus drive might be different.

 

[Pyra]

Could you explain what you mean by how Z glued Golden's and Were's abilities together as his claim? Were's ability was a bodyguard and Golden's was presumably absorbing abilities (not sure if he revealed it?), but Z claimed redirector. All three are very different from each other.

I meant that he glued praline reminding him of Golden's request with Werekill's claim/story. Not anything about Golden's quirk (which is the Navel Laser, supposedly). As in, he saw that Were got shot and is a bodyguard, saw that Golden requested people aim at him last night, and just kinda rolled with that story. "I made Were protect Golden because Golden asked to be targeted!"

And yet there's not a lot of stuff to back that up. Golden supposedly didn't get a notification that he's been protected. Werekill is still alive, because if he wasn't able to passive himself, then he'd be dead.

*shrug*
If anyone could give me a better person to vote for that'd be useful.

I'm not voting for him because what he's done isn't really scummy, just misunderstood. I don't see why we have to call it a Day when there's still what, 46 hours left?

Nobody's calling it a day yet tbh

Are you a Bus Driver, or a redirector? They're almost the same thing but still vastly different. Even if you were able to redirect Werekill to Golden, that would only result in a dead Werekill. But a bus drive might be different.

I was also wondering about this.

 

[Dooplissity]

I'm not sure I get what you mean? Do you mean that both of you would get affected? Like say Were was shot, your asking if you both would be?

Yes, but I asked shishoe. Normal abilities and quirk ones can be both be affected by my redirect. It just depends on weather or not the normal ability is counts as the active one, of the quirk counts as an active one.

So my redirect affecting a passive ability is already confirmed to me by shishoe. Hence why I waited before saying that. I also don't get how you can honestly not buy the forger theory or give it any thought..

Your being very protective of Were. When I flip town, you and him would both go down imho.


Yes because as a scum I would not only make myself looking extreemly shady, but attract a **** ton of attention, just to bait a redirector out. Who btw, you won't see anyone counter claiming me because there is no one to do so.

Why would I honesty go through that trouble for pointless baitng?

What? This seems to imply the opposite to me - that you redirect both normal and quirk abilities if they are active. Not passive.

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

That's a very fair point, but I'll just say it.

If you can really redirect a passive ability, yet Were also claimed that he survived a shot from his passive bulletproof, then you're most likely lying here because if you indeed redirected this passive, Werekill should be dead as we speak.

And before you try to see this as defending Were, it's not.

The only other possibility I can think of is that you're right, but Were lied, is scum and intentionally suggested a no kill to his scummates to prove his claim.

Well, the only one besides Pokechu's Bus Driver theory.