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DokturSea

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and Vaati is a wind sorcerer. And if you think he is just that crazy eyeball thing, he's not. He has several different forms. Human, Semi-human, eyeball form w/ floating orbs, and an eyeball form with ghost hands. and that eyeball form in the beggining of four swords.

And wow, a piant brush. And younger turtle with a paintbrush is just as lame as an italian plumber with a super soaker.
I'm sorry, but when you say it like that, you wan make ANY character sound boring.

Wow. Vaati. He can make the wind blow. Wow.

But really, why am I arguing? You won't be swayed, and neither will I.
 

Bowserlick

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Andross will rock as a villain. Kaptain K. Rool would be better then the king. Bowser Jr. should stay out of the game. Ridley and King DeDeDe want to get in and Captain Falcon should get a rival. Also a Skull kid complete with Majora's mask or Midna on a wolf would add very unique villains.
 

Xenocide

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in the first game they had no villians whatsover. then the added bowser and gannondorf. i think they should add some more common enemys/bosses. i mean, haven't you ever wanted to fight samus as ridly or beat up mario with a goomba? and it's not like nintendo doesn't have the resources. some suggestions would be ridly, goomba, metroid, paratroopa, octorock, and others from more videogames. that would improve the game a whole lot in my perspective.and giga bowser should be an optional player even if he is just a clone. but i also noticed that on melee's box it sais all of nintendos allstars.

would like to hear other cool enemy/ bosses and other points of view
xenomorph for ssbb?


(sig is a xenomorph)
 

Muffin_man

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No, I don't think he is, actually. He has a paint brush.


So there.
He also happens to be one of the main reasons why the Koopa Kids aren't seen as much, which almost instantly gains him a whole bunch of negative rep.

Bowser should just be the only Mario villian, as I can't think of any others which are truley deserving (That's you, Bowser Jr.), and the few I can think of who are deserving (Kamek), would simply make the Mario series even more over-repped.

King K. Rool has a large chance, and seeing as he was a trophey in Melee, it isn't like Sakurai doesn't know who he is. Besides, I think it's safe to say that Sakurai is looking to make sure that the DK series gets more representation, and other than Diddy Kong, K. Rool's the perfect choice.

King Dedede might as well already be comfirmed at this point due to the huge amount of support he has and the fact that he was supposed to be in the original but was scrapped due to time limits, than Melee, but was scrapped due to time limits again.

The villians in the Zelda series are much more memorable than most of the allies, which is why I'd support Skull Kid despite Gannondorf already being in the game.

Ridley also deserves to be in just because Metroid is so under-repped (I don't care what everyone keeps on saying; Zamus is nothing more than a transformation for Samus) and he'd also be incredably cool and original to play as.

Wolf would be neato, but I can't think of how to make him different from Fox. Obviously he could easily be unique, but I can't think of how they'd go about making him an individual.

The only thing stopping me from saying Dearthborn is the fact that 1. He's obscure and 2. He's only appeared in F-Zero GX. And I count Samurai Goroh as Falcon's rival, instead of a villian.
 

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Megaman does not need a villain. Because there are only 1 or 2 more third party addition, and a villain does count as a "character." We don't need Megaman and a foe to be in the roster, we need Megaman and Sonic.

probably true but if there was to be a villian from his series baass would be top choice
 

MagnuM

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Bowser Jr. can have a totally different moveset than Bowser. He can own people with that paintbrush!

If they are going to add one more major Mario character to the mix, I don't think it would be Waluigi or Toad, it would probably be Bowser Jr. He's been in a lot of games lately. Plus he rocks, he'll make it in!
 

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Bowser Jr wont be a clone of Bowser, one thing his size aint nothin to bowser's, and he has that brush, also he can transform into Shadow Mario, givin him a unique moveset, tough I dont like him much, Shadow Mario pwns...
 

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if bowser jr was in his main weapon would be the paint brush and his super move might have some to do with shadow mario
 

The_Corax_King

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King K Rool, DeeDeeDee, Ridley, Skull Kid, Waluigi (hope not), Kamek, Birdo, Wolf, Nergal, Samurai Goroh, Ganon, Baby Bowswer/Paint Mario, Magus (kind of villain and kind of 3rd party).

That should be enough...
 

cb_marth

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I would love to see Wolf, DeeDeeDee, Skull Kid and maybe Baby Bowser would be cool. I would like to see a few new Star Fox characters though.
 

Conker1

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To hell with Vaati, Wolf, Bowser Jr. and K Rool

All the new villians we need are Ridley, Dedede, Meta Knight, and Goroh(And maybe some Skull Kid)
 

Shuma

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The moment you wrote the words "To hell with Wolf and K Rool" in the same sentece you became my enemy.

Fox and DK are missing Villains, Vaati IIRC is a TP character isn't it? we already have Ganondorf, Bowser Jr. Meh i don't mind but we already have bowser.

But i agree with Ridley, Dedede, Meta Knight and Goroh(although i would prefer, Black Shadow or Deathborn but meh).
 

Conker1

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Not everyone needs a villain. The Starfox series doesn't need need 4 characters, Wolf looks far to similar to Fox as well.

As for K. Rool, I'd much rather have Diddy and the DK series doesn't deserve more than 2. Plus K.Rool looks really lame.
 

Shuma

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It's not that the Fox series needs 4 characters, is that it needs a villain, if there's Fox, Falco, Krystal AND wolf, everyone would be happy.

K. Rool, i don't really care if he is in or not, but he is the Dk villain, IIRC he has been the villain in all games, he deserves to be in, althoug i don't like King K. Rool, but Kaptain K. Rool would rock.
 

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King K. Rool DOES have a spiky crown. i'm pretty sure i read somewhere that spiky crowns are only worn by really cool cats.

whether u like him or not, K. Rool deserves to be in. he's the donkey kong version of bowser or ganon. screw diddy. DK has it all over him anyway. besides, as if one hideously obese reptile is enough in ANY game....well, perhaps bowser is just big boned....
 

Zeela12

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main charaters will always triumph over villans. Villans appeare for only 1 battle (maybe more than one, depends on story line), but the main charaters will be not only there during the entire game, he/she will also be controled by the player, thus being more developed.

Pokey from Earthbound would be a nice add for villans...
 

ClarkJables

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probably true but if there was to be a villian from his series baass would be top choice
i don't think we even need megaman

on topic though, some good villians would be ridley (with batwings), samurai goroh, maybe captain k. rool, if sonic gets in then maybe that kick *** water guy from the sonic adventure game, waluigi, king dedede, and thats all i can think of at the moment
 

LordRalph_87

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Doubt there will be any third party villains but hopefully a good few Nintendo ones. Who can honestly say they haven't wanted to be on the right end of Ridley's plasma beams of death for once?

Anyway everyone knows being evils more fun XD
 

Ianthraxx

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Screw villains entirely, I say. Adding villains for villain's sake is ridiculous. I'll take Megaman over Wart, or Sonic over K. Rool any day. I just want cool, fun characters, and I don't think, say, Bowser Jr. has enough cred or personality to really warrant a spot.
 

Bowserlick

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screw all these new villains(exception of Bowser jr.) how about some retro villains like Wart

This is a great idea. Wart needs to return. I am suprised he wasn't included in any Mario kart games. But this is his big chance to be re-invented. Although his chances are abysmal.

I say we need: King DeDeDe, Ridley, Andross, and perhaps Kaptain K. Rool (although Wart would also be a nice addition). It seems like huge reptillian/ amphibians seem to be the common theme for villains.
 

LukeFonFabre

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To be fair, DeDeDe is a penguin, giving us a bit of variety as far as the animal kingdom is concerned.
 

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I agree that villains for villains' sake should be avoided. I like guys who are anti-heroes rather than actual villains, like Wario, Bowser(?) or Dedede ( who would completely own, by the way ).
I don't like K.Rool. He's a wannabe Bowser of a different species and without that lovable villainy charme. ( *hugs Bowser* n_n )

Ridley would be awesome simpley because he'd bring something new to the game. Good thing that he and Dedede are very likely.
 

Shuma

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Give me Ridley or Give me death.

If Dark Samus get's in and Ridley doesn't i'll be angry. Aniway, each time i read Andross in this forum a puppy dyes.
 

LukeFonFabre

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Must resist urge to make a bad pun!

But yeah, Ridley and DeDeDe are the villains I'm rooting for most. I'm also not against the idea of Wolf or Dark Samus getting in (and Black Knight to some extent), but I don't feel their inclusion is as necessary.

And while Villains shouldn't be added for villains sake, it's always fun to play as the bad guys for a change.
 

Lemon Drop

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Villians
Characters that I would like to see: Ridley & King Dedede

Characters that would be nice but wouldn't care: Wolf, King K. Roo, & Scarecrow kid/w Majora Mask

Strange Characters that would be nice but once again wouldn't care: Vaati (human form), Shyguy, Wart, Samurai Goroh, Black Shadow, Bowser Jr.

??? Characters: Goomba, Metroid, Zeta Metroid (3rd form), Omega Metroid (4th form), Andross
 

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Two words: Pious Augustus. (from Eternal Darkness)

I found him to be a pretty cool baddie and I think they could give him some pretty cool moves with his magic and that staff of his.:grin:

Skull Kid with Majora's Mask would be awesome too.
 

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i am at least hoping for ridley, dedede, and wolf. i am very glas meta knight is in. and another awsome villain is bass from megaman, but he has no chance...and i count kamek as a villain.
 

Meta_Owns_Ur_Dad

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Ridley, Wolf, and Dedede are the villians that need to be added IMO.

King K Rool or whatever, MAY make a decent addition, i don't know.

And if they're has to be a common enemy, it defiantly has to be Shy-guy because the endless supply of moves.

Also, what about Count Bleck? Whoa, in my mind its kinda a bad idea but he's pretty cool.
 

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This is a great idea. Wart needs to return. I am suprised he wasn't included in any Mario kart games. But this is his big chance to be re-invented. Although his chances are abysmal.
I don't think his chances are low, think about it, people weren't expecting Dr.Mario or Mr. Game&Watch but yet they made an appearance in Melee so Wart might be a possibility I hope:)

a redead?....
not a chance, because he's not a major villain of a series he's more like a henchmen than the actual boss villain
 

matthewmilad

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Ok, whoever made this thread is dumb. We don't need crap like Ridley and Goombas and ****. That is dumb.

Some good villains that haven't been announced yet:

King K. Rool
King DeDeDe
Waluigi
Bowser Jr.
Ganon
Wolf O'Donnel
Leon Powalski


Hey lookit there. We have a lot of good villains now, all shapes and sizes.
 

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Ridley is awesome and has a great chance of getting in. i can see your point on goomba's,
but i feel the same way about bowser Jr. Leon has a very small chance, as dpes ganon. but i posted dedede, wolf, K. rool, and others on this and my Samusrules93's brawl character wishlist.
 

dynamic_entry

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Ok, whoever made this thread is dumb. We don't need crap like Ridley and Goombas and ****. That is dumb.

Some good villains that haven't been announced yet:

King K. Rool
King DeDeDe
Waluigi
Bowser Jr.
Ganon
Wolf O'Donnel
Leon Powalski


Hey lookit there. We have a lot of good villains now, all shapes and sizes.
i pity tha fool.

first off, ridley is one of the rockingest villians nintendo have ever created. also, why would u say that whoever made this thread about villians is dumb, and then post a list of villians you would like to see. do you see the hypocrisy? furthermore, while none of the villians on your list has been officially announced by nintendo or sakurai, they have all been discussed in this "dumb thread".

sit down before you fall over.
 
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