Monty Python's Flying Mafia - SCUM VICTORY, Vult/Doop win the game!

[Vult Redux]

So you think that Mafia just killed an inactive player for the fun of it? I don't see that realistically happening.

might have been worried about Xivii in particular (never seen him play 0 was looking forward to it), known he was investigative, were concerned about a doc protect on a louder player...

not for the fun of it. but there are too many options, and my concerns with you don't really hinge on the night kill anyway. I probably would still have argued against a Xivii lynch D2, pending his content

 

[Spak]

might have been worried about Xivii in particular (never seen him play 0 was looking forward to it), known he was investigative, were concerned about a doc protect on a louder player...

How could they have known there was an investigative role? The only possibilities of that are if scum had a N0 cop (which I've never seen) or Kouse tipped off that there was an investigative role, which I can tell you he didn't from his few posts. And why would they be worried about a person who hasn't played in years? If they were worried about Xivii, we should be looking in match history for people in this game who have played with him before as at least one of the Mafia.

Next, Spak's replacement reads were pretty weak.

Let's look back at my original read list:

Spoiler: Read list in #129

1. #HBC | Nabe - Post, bro.
2. Red Ryu - Has been asking lots of good questions so far, but his reads seem a little weak right now (and he has not defended them very well thus far).
3. Gheb - I liked his post talking about Ran's play, but he hasn't posted much else.
4. Spak - Obvitown.
5. Dooplissity - He seems to be very knowledgeable about Mafia and built a pretty solid case against Ran, but I'm concerned by the fact that he's only focusing on Ran. He hasn't mentioned reads on anyone else, so I'd like to hear more about his opinions of other players before making a more solid call on this slot.
6. Vult Redux - I'll re-assess this slot on a day where I haven't been driving for 5 hours straight
7. Ranmaru - He did change his gut read mid-day with little to no explanation (which is a little fishy), but I'm seeing play that I've seen from Ran pretty much every other game I've played with him. I think that his responses have been honest based on the fact he couldn't have made up solid defenses in the time it took him to respond to most of the accusations, and he's stood by pretty much everything he's said.
8. Kouseband - This is a super weak lean and might just be noobtown presenting itself as scum, but it looks like he's intent on trying to take down Ran. I think that either Kouse and Ran are a team and this was Kouse's way to distance himself (scum!Kouse, probably not the case since I still think that Ran is pretty townie), Kouse knows that Ran won't push back as hard on the first game of Mafia so he was trying to put the spotlight on Ran (scum!Kouse), or Kouse is just using noobtown logic (town!Kouse).
9. Fandangox - Pointed out things that I missed the first read through, meaning that he's actually trying to break down an analyze everything rather than fish for a slip and then nail the person for an easy lynch. Or he's trying to find stuff to lynch people off of, but I've got a gut townie feeling on Fanny since he dropped the points against his suspect when they were explained well enough.

Town
Town read
Town lean
Null
Scum lean
Scum read
Scum

I was the first to actually do a full reads list, so many of the slots hadn't done anything of signifigance at that point. Doop, Nabe, and Gheb hadn't posted enough to get any valid reads on them, Ryu was a town lean off of his questioning but then the whole mixing up slots and saying Kouse voted Ran and not defending his reads well brought him back down to null, you, Kouse, and Fanny I had pretty solid reads on at the time, and I didn't want to go back and read Vult until the next day because I had driven for 5 hours straight before reading up and composing the list.

He never really gave a read on Vult early day,

Because nobody asked, and when I was:
[quoteand his read change was to town lean on vult much later in the day when I ask for updates.[/quote]
Because I legit think that Vult is more likely to be town than scum.

His read on Fandan is weak

How strong can a read be while going off of 9 posts?

his read on me is alright, although it's easy to say 'meta, he's holding his ground, he's honest'.

True, but I gave time-based reasonings for why you couldn't have made up solid responses that weren't honest in the time period between questions and your answers, and now that I think about it, I've never seen you scum so I'm not sure what that looks like.

@Thread What does Ran scum look like?

His only in-depth read is Kouse, who is awol.

And had only been AWOL for 8 hours when I posted that read list. I fully expected for Kouse to try and fight my accusations, but he just ran.

Spak uses his own newbie game to compare to Kouse, which I don't think is fair as each person is unique and they react differently than others based on their own world view.

Fair enough, but I was put in a similar situation and I only have one point of data for a noob town being pressured from a slip-up. I had a lot of thoughts that phase, and none of which were to run away and quit lol.

#238 (Also, I was the one who said 'no one was suspicious of me' in response to his accusation of me) I think Spak tunneled Kouse too far, and wasn't looking to develop other reads with his vote.

This is an unfortunate tendency of mine. I know self-meta is garbage, but just look back at what I did to Kary in Undertale (I think that was the one?).

Since, Kouse was Awol, he elected to keep his vote on 'sir who isn't here' until he was replaced. To me, I think ScumSpak was intent on keeping his vote on a for sure easy lynch, instead of putting his support in Ryu's direction, which I greatly needed at the time. Him waiting for Xiiivi to be replaced in was too late for me.

I was perfectly content at the start of the day lynching a scummy slot, and I was more content at the end lynching an inactive scummy slot. I didn't have any sure-fire scumreads, so I figured a modkill and a mislynch and a NK would put us at even numbers and one less phase to play the game out. When Kouse was replaced, however, I decided to give Xivii a fresh start and changed over to Ryu. Plus, I would rather have killed an inactive slot who was contributing nothing than an active possibly scummy slot that was trying to generate content. Also, we both know that 3 hours before deadline is enough to swing 3 votes. Even if I changed at 6 rather than 9, people would have still killed Gheb because he was generally less favored than Ryu.

Him quoting his reasoning instead of re-phrasing shows he doesn't genuinely believe it in his heart, and has to quote his explanations when asked.

No, it means that I don't want to waste 5-10 minutes of my life every time someone asks me to write up my Ryu read. I've saved 20 minutes by quoting rather than re-typing a case, and that's worth it if my opinion hasn't changed.

Meaning, they are made up, and they are hard to explain on the spot. He has done this twice already toDay, and it shows his reads remain steady, and aren't static (changing). Our reads should usually change and not just stay in the same place.

If I was so concerned about this, I would paraphrase my original analysis rather than quoting it. Ryu's play hasn't changed at all since I analyzed his slot, so why should my read?

I can't believe he genuinely believes Ryu is scum without considering other reasoning, such as his reaction to my pushing D1.

I thought you v. Ryu made Ryu look more scummy and you more townie. The read you have a problem with me quoting is actually where I analyze the whole exchange and give my opinion on it. Additionally, it's kinda hard for me to develop my reads while you're trying to grill me on invalid points, as I go in a mentally defensive state when attacked and focus on clearing my name before looking for others to focus on.

Next, his thoughts do not line up with the wagon scenarios he proposes. Neither one (1 on and 1 off, or all off) is reflected in his reads.

It could be both on, I'm not sure. The wagon statement was me suggesting possibilities, and all off is impossible because I'm off.

His only scumread is Ryu. He agrees with Doop that Nabe would be sketchy due to this, but he then states that the reason he has not considered it was because he was weighing the options of scum killing in such a way to set him and Nabe up.

Because I can't see any alternatives.

Seeing his defense, I don't like it.

Wow, what a surprise. Didn't expect to see that in a case against someone.

He didn't actually answer my questions, and needed prodding from Vult.

What prodding? I was answering you real-time and wasn't trying to dodge any questions. You, however, keep on refusing to answer my question a the end of #394.

He never answered why it prevented him from considering Nabe, the original problem.

It hasn't, and Nabe is a possibility. I want to wait until he gets back and then analyze the slot based upon his responses to Doop and general actions.

To me, it feels like he was only asking questions about the wagon investigation to seem townie, instead of genuinely thinking about it and actually using it to find who is scum on and off the wagon, because of this fear that scum may have set him up.

Overall, Spak's reads were weak at the start, and only focused the hardest on Kouse.

Because I wanted to push Kouse, who I didn't know wouldn't come back at the time. Sorry for not being able to see into the future.

He stayed on Kouse even through being AWOL, when he could have used his vote to support the Ryu push which he is on toDay.

Which had less support than Kouse at the time (1 Ryu, 2 Kouse) and wasn't my first lynch choice.

He doesn't seem to summarize his original reasoning, which leads me to believe he made them up and would rather quote them again and again.

No, it means that I don't want to waste 5-10 minutes of my life every time someone asks me to write up my Ryu read. I've saved 20 minutes by quoting rather than re-typing a case, and that's worth it if my opinion hasn't changed.

Finally, his reads does not line up with his scenarios of the Gheb wagon having 1 scum 1 off or none at all.

Noe my opinion on that is 1 on 1 off or two on.

HOLD THE PHONE.

I just realized something. Just bring back the little wagon quote from earlier, and look at the last part:

To me, it feels like he was only asking questions about the wagon investigation to seem townie, instead of genuinely thinking about it and actually using it to find who is scum on and off the wagon, because of this fear that scum may have set him up.

If I were scum, how could being set up by myself be my cause of worry? This part seems to assume that I'm town in order to fear being set up, which is odd considering Ran's entire post. Looking mighty suspicious over there, Ran.

 

[ranmaru]

When I mention you trying to appear town, I also believe that the fear is fake as well. I neglected to mention a good strategy scum can use is make it look like they were victimized and that is my angle. So I believe it is possible you, as scum, possibly killed Kouse to make it seem like scum (that isn't you) targetted you so you can talk about that in your defense. I will respond to the rest later in the day.

 

[Spak]

When I mention you trying to appear town, I also believe that the fear is fake as well. I neglected to mention a good strategy scum can use is make it look like they were victimized and that is my angle. So I believe it is possible you, as scum, possibly killed Kouse to make it seem like scum (that isn't you) targetted you so you can talk about that in your defense. I will respond to the rest later in the day.

But at the end of the day scum would still be taking out a useless slot, which would overall benefit town more than it would benefit them unless they had pretty significant ulterior motives. In the hypothetical scum!Ran situation, you could have killed Kouse yourself and blamed me for killing him to victimize myself and make it seem like I'm being targeted. Your point here is pure WIFOM, so that's not a good enough reason to kill off an inactive slot. Also, I wasn't looking for pity for being "targeted" by scum (and didn't bring that up because it's WIFOM), I was looking for scum setting up the non-Gheb wagon to make it look like Nabe and I should be the main lynches for today and possibly turn us against each-other (hey look, our slots are the only ones with votes aside from my Ryu vote; it looks like scum might steamroll this game).

 

[ranmaru]

Xiivi being taken out would benefit scum more than town. Xiivi = Zen, and it would not be a useless slot after being replaced. I know it is wifom, but you brought it up as a defense, I only asked what your analysis of it was and why it prevented you from looking at Nabe. Whatever scum's reason for night killing (in general), you should expect it to be for an optimal reason, and not for a silly reason.

 

[ranmaru]

That's why I said probably. It does make Nabe look kinda sketch, but at the same time the Kouse lynch doesn't make sense to me and I have to consider the possibility that someone set up the non-lynch pool so that Nabe and I would turn against each-other.

This right here.

 

[ranmaru]

You bringing that up already implies wifom, by stating you were set up, when no one can take your word for it.

 

[Spak]

Xiivi being taken out would benefit scum more than town. Xiivi = Zen, and it would not be a useless slot after being replaced. I know it is wifom, but you brought it up as a defense, I only asked what your analysis of it was and why it prevented you from looking at Nabe. Whatever scum's reason for night killing (in general), you should expect it to be for an optimal reason, and not for a silly reason.

I wouldn't know that as I've never played with the guy, and hasn't been playing for years, so should we be looking for an old-time veteran as one of the scum? Also, I think that the wagon theory isn't too far-fetched. I may be alone in this, but I believe that it's a valid supposition.

You bringing that up already implies wifom, by stating you were set up, when no one can take your word for it.

Oh, that makes sense now. I've been looking at it from a PoV where at least one person not on the Gheb wagon is confirmed town, but I forgot you guys don't have that luxury. Yes I'm stating that it's a possibility that we've been set up, no I never said it was definite, nor did I say it was more likely than any other outcome. I was just putting ideas out there so people don't instantly assume that Nabe is scum if I get lynched, and was trying to figure out ways that the NK could be justified.

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

Nabes did you shoot Xivii

No

#HBC | Nabe Get in here.

Still V/LA, also clearing something up with the mod. Will be here heavily this phase

 

[Vult Redux]

No

Still V/LA, also clearing something up with the mod./QUOTE]hmmm okay.

 

[ranmaru]

Vult Redux Are you going to join me yet?

 

[ranmaru]

Spoiler: Spak Response

I was the first to actually do a full reads list, so many of the slots hadn't done anything of signifigance at that point. Doop, Nabe, and Gheb hadn't posted enough to get any valid reads on them, Ryu was a town lean off of his questioning but then the whole mixing up slots and saying Kouse voted Ran and not defending his reads well brought him back down to null, you, Kouse, and Fanny I had pretty solid reads on at the time, and I didn't want to go back and read Vult until the next day because I had driven for 5 hours straight before reading up and composing the list.

You didn't need to post a full reads list at that point of the game. You didn't give a read on vult until 3 days later, and only when asked. You didn't actively try to give a read yourself. Having a full reads list first doesn't matter if it's all weak, and pointless. You only needed to post about Me, Kouse, and Fanny.

Because nobody asked, and when I was:
[quoteand his read change was to town lean on vult much later in the day when I ask for updates.

I don't think anyone needed to ask you so you could finish your full-reads list.

How strong can a read be while going off of 9 posts?

As strong as your Kouse read, which seem to have 7 posts according to your analysis. He might have a little more but he did not post much. Either way, it doesn't mean you can be wishy washy about it.

True, but I gave time-based reasonings for why you couldn't have made up solid responses that weren't honest in the time period between questions and your answers, and now that I think about it, I've never seen you scum so I'm not sure what that looks like.

My point was it was one of your two stronger reads. That's why I said it's alright.

And had only been AWOL for 8 hours when I posted that read list. I fully expected for Kouse to try and fight my accusations, but he just ran.

I think it was fine to wait, but waiting past the prod did not seem fruitful, especially considering he was a raw newbie which I attacked pretty strongly.

Fair enough, but I was put in a similar situation and I only have one point of data for a noob town being pressured from a slip-up. I had a lot of thoughts that phase, and none of which were to run away and quit lol.

Again, some people react differently.

This is an unfortunate tendency of mine. I know self-meta is garbage, but just look back at what I did to Kary in Undertale (I think that was the one?).

I have only seen one scum game of yours so I can't really see it as something you'd only do as a certain alignment.

I was perfectly content at the start of the day lynching a scummy slot, and I was more content at the end lynching an inactive scummy slot. I didn't have any sure-fire scumreads, so I figured a modkill and a mislynch and a NK would put us at even numbers and one less phase to play the game out. When Kouse was replaced, however, I decided to give Xivii a fresh start and changed over to Ryu. Plus, I would rather have killed an inactive slot who was contributing nothing than an active possibly scummy slot that was trying to generate content. Also, we both know that 3 hours before deadline is enough to swing 3 votes. Even if I changed at 6 rather than 9, people would have still killed Gheb because he was generally less favored than Ryu.

I take that as parking your vote on someone that was not present when you could have been using it productively elsewhere.

No, it means that I don't want to waste 5-10 minutes of my life every time someone asks me to write up my Ryu read. I've saved 20 minutes by quoting rather than re-typing a case, and that's worth it if my opinion hasn't changed.

A big case I can understand, those take a great amount of time for anyone. A paragraph is different. It's easier for people to hide behind words they took the time to plan carefully. You yourself notice that I respond quickly and genuinely, so you too understand that if a person is pressured and cannot come up with an on the spot explanation, they may be lying.

If I was so concerned about this, I would paraphrase my original analysis rather than quoting it. Ryu's play hasn't changed at all since I analyzed his slot, so why should my read?

Fair enough. Drop that point.

I thought you v. Ryu made Ryu look more scummy and you more townie. The read you have a problem with me quoting is actually where I analyze the whole exchange and give my opinion on it. Additionally, it's kinda hard for me to develop my reads while you're trying to grill me on invalid points, as I go in a mentally defensive state when attacked and focus on clearing my name before looking for others to focus on.

Can you explain to me what you thought of his reaction to my push D1? I don't remember if you talked about that, you talked about his reads but not that. It is, but you had plenty of time to develop reads before hand.

It could be both on, I'm not sure. The wagon statement was me suggesting possibilities, and all off is impossible because I'm off.

Pick one, instead of straddling between possibilities. Giving out possibilities does not help.

Because I can't see any alternatives.

Then there should only be one 'possibility' that you believe in, no?

Wow, what a surprise. Didn't expect to see that in a case against someone.

Ok.

What prodding? I was answering you real-time and wasn't trying to dodge any questions. You, however, keep on refusing to answer my question a the end of #394.

Who the 'someone' you were thinking it was, and why it prevented you from looking at Nabe. (Which you answer in this post)

It hasn't, and Nabe is a possibility. I want to wait until he gets back and then analyze the slot based upon his responses to Doop and general actions.

Why wait unti he responds to Doop? Isn't what he's already given Day1 enough?

Because I wanted to push Kouse, who I didn't know wouldn't come back at the time. Sorry for not being able to see into the future.

Yet he was prodded already. You could have guessed it.

Which had less support than Kouse at the time (1 Ryu, 2 Kouse) and wasn't my first lynch choice.

That is my point, it has less and could have used your support, which you kept on Kouse, who has not come back and did not seem to be coming back.

Noe my opinion on that is 1 on 1 off or two on.

Pick one.

Response to Spak's defense. This is the last I'll say about it, so we can move on with discussion.

 

[Vult Redux]

Vult Redux Are you going to join me yet?

vote: Spak

Just to clarify though, what is your read on Nabes?

 

[ranmaru]

Cool. Spak is L-2 by the way.

Nabe is still null-scum to me. (My response to Doop I said null, but I meant null-scum)

 

[Maven89]

This day has been getting far too silly, so that's it! It's over! The day is done! Spak is dead!
It's just because you couldn't come up with a proper hammer

Not true, not true

Spak has been executed! Flip coming when the mod is not at dinner, but the day is over, no more posting. Complain about this through PMs to me. Night 2 begins

 

[Maven89]

Spak, Town Fake Neighbor Searcher, has been Executed!

Night 2 begins, it ends in 48 hours

 

[Maven89]

Fandangox, Fake Town Suicide Bomber, has been killed in the night!

Day 3 begins. With 5 alive it takes 3 to lynch

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

We should mass claim,

1. Nabe
2. Doop
3. Vult
4. Ran
5. Me

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

I will post thoughts on who is scum after that mass claim happens for reasons I will not state right now.

 

[ranmaru]

I agree to massclaim.

 

[Dooplissity]

I also agree to massclaim but do not agree on that order at all. Nabe first is fine, but RR last worries me.

I would prefer:
Nabe
Vult/RR
RR/Vult
Doop (me)
Ran

 

[Vult Redux]

my preference is actually Nabe > RR/Ran > Doop > Me

Btw I WILL know if one of you is lying

My birthday was yesterday and I have plans today but I'll try to check in as frequently as I can.

Also I crumbed my role somewhere but I can't remember where so I need time to go find it

 

[Vult Redux]

Maven89 I remember we got a character flip for gheb, but not for the last two flips. Is that intentional/game-related?

 

[Maven89]

It's because I'm still on vacation and don't know how to link to things on mobile. I'll post them later tonight when I fly in

Reminder: quoting mod communications or role PM, including links I might have put in your PM, are against the rules

 

[ranmaru]

I prefer Ryu's order.

#HBC | Nabe Get in here.

 

[Vult Redux]

actually if it doesn't bother anyone I'd like to claim characters first since my role is pretty character-centric

as in everyone claims characters > everyone claims roles

 

[ranmaru]

No. Character and role, as I care more about the setup more than flavor. Just do it all at once.

 

[Vult Redux]

No. Character and role, as I care more about the setup more than flavor. Just do it all at once.

i mean i don't mind moving up in the claim order but my concern is that I have information about a certain character and I don't want anyone who claims behind me to be able to take advantage of that

 

[ranmaru]

I am not entirely sure I follow you here. As long as you claim your role earlier its fine for me.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

I put myself latest for a reason, I might compromise later but there is a reason I made mine how I did.

 

[Vult Redux]

RR last worries me.

did you dislike RR pre-D3?

I am not entirely sure I follow you here. As long as you claim your role earlier its fine for me.

at this point my information probably won't make a difference but I just want everyone's characters in advance just in case so someone can't backtrack later

I put myself latest for a reason, I might compromise later but there is a reason I made mine how I did.

uuuuuuuh yeah we'll see

 

[Dooplissity]

I prefer Ryu's order.

???

I thought you were one of the biggest proponents of RR as scum? Why the sudden switch to allowing him to claim last?

did you dislike RR pre-D3?

at this point my information probably won't make a difference but I just want everyone's characters in advance just in case so someone can't backtrack later

uuuuuuuh yeah we'll see

I had him at a null, but rapidly declining read at the end of D1, and iirc he didn't do anything particularly helpful on D2, although it was short. I didn't have him at a scumread but all of his townpoints came from early D1. I just don't like the thought of someone who was largely seen as null or scum claiming last, when we have Ran who is pretty universally townread and me, who's been mostly null/town.

 

[Vult Redux]

???

I thought you were one of the biggest proponents of RR as scum? Why the sudden switch to allowing him to claim last?

I thought the same thing!!! I wasn't going to say anything until after claiming but now it's out there so

I remember that Ran changed his mind suddenly d2. I asked him about it and idr what he said but I think I just let it slide because he read him as town.

 

[Vult Redux]

Dooplissity this is all i got for his flip on the RR read. All posts are from early D2

As for scum I think Fandango is a good direction to go in. Maybe Spak.

Then why did you still want to kill Ryu over Gheb at the end of last phase?

Gheb flipping town made me re-evaulate reads. That leaves fandan and yourself, of which were pretty quite and were not really doing much.

But nobody except scum woulda known that Gheb would flip town, so that didn't answer my question from #382. Also, how exactly did it make you re-evaluate your reads? What led you to believe that me and Fanny are scum from the fact that Gheb flipped town?

Exactly. It meant there was still two scum to look for. I couldn't continue to push Ryu when he reacts genuinely to my push. It was my only lead at the time. So now I am thinking harder on who goes today. I am interested in ryus reads today.

Is there anything I can help you understand about Nabe? I feel like he's pretty far and away our best candidate right now. Maybe you can help me understand RR - he's still at null to me because he felt very Town early, but pretty Scum late, and that makes me uncomfortable b/c i'm obviously wrong about half the phase.

vote: nabe (and no I haven't forgotten about that post)

Doop I am still figuring Ryu out but at the moment he is getting better for me. I feel he would be a bit more transparent as scum. His wagon hop gheb was concerning so I would keep an eye on him in case he does anything opportunistic, but I like his posting today so far.

fwiw i (pre-claim) find it hard to imagine a Ryu-Ran scumteam. If it's a Ran-Nabe team then I think Ran's behavior sets up a RR lynch later if he were to flip.

but that's just one scenario and I'm not standing behind any of my reads until after the claims

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

We should mass claim,

1. Nabe
2. Doop
3. Vult
4. Ran
5. Me

This order with Vult/Ran switched is fine. I'd prefer Ran next, before Doop.


I'm the nudge nudge sketch, voyeur. Town-aligned. I've been faking a post restriction where I had to say "nudge" in every post, because I didn't want to be in this game at all much less pretend that I scumhunt, and voyeur is a weak PR, so in a flavoured setup it seemed like baiting a kill would be trivial. (Apparently not.) But something is pretty clear with all of the flips and with my results as well, which aren't voyeur results at all.


N1 I targeted Spak, my only strong town read, who I "caught" liking soap (I'm leaving out a lot of flavour description and sex jokes). I thought there was something weird going on, and that this meant that Spak was a janitor. My only post D2 was in regards to that, when I was waiting on an answer from the mod, thinking he had given me the wrong result. Then Spak flipped Town and that theory was out.

N2 I targeted Ryu, who has a lot of hair, or doesn't shave it. So there's one of two things going on here:


a) I'm actually getting role flavour results (which I think is unlikely, unless Ryu confirms a hair-related sketch)

b) Given all of the role flips that have been "Fake" so far (every one except Gheb) I'm probably Fake Voyeur, which explains the weirdness. By extension, this probably applies to all VTs in the game, which is to say VTs are Fake roles that get weird results. This would be contrasted with real roles, like Gheb and probably 1 more real PR, who get concrete results that are strongly worded.


tl;dr we're in flavour town.

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

Not at all relevant:

- Fand was probably https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUHk2RSMCS8 (the Judean People's Front)
- Spak was probably https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVYjS8r7b_w (Neighbourhood Watch)
- No idea on ZV

 

[Vult Redux]

i don't mind full claiming next if people claim their characters.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

I want to move this along fast and don't care to reveal that part.

I am "How not to be seen"

 

[Vult Redux]

I want to move this along fast and don't care to reveal that part.

?

 

[ranmaru]

I'm Lancelot.