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Monster Mafia - Game Over

mentosman8

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mentos i asked yu a question in my 309
Whoops, missed that, here we go. No, I do not believe that is the case in that situation. At that point in the game, as I mentioned earlier, I was using the Cacti bandwagon to start some strong discussion, and I was calling out things. I do find it strange that Gheb voted, and didn't put his reasoning up for an extended amount of time afterward, but the situation I described in the quote you asked about it highly unlikely, and presented solely for his reaction. I will say still though that him not explaining his vote until it started becoming a BW, instead of saying it right away still irks me though.
 

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And what about those who didn't comment about it at all, mentos? Are you OK with those?

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The Deadline Has Been Extended:
11:59 PM EST November 17


mentosman8 was inactive as of November 13th. He has since posted.


As of post 322

7/12 votes to lynch

The Current Votecount:

BunBun: 4 (Matunas, Omni, mentosman8, Rockin)
Rockin: 3 (Gheb_01, Marshy, KevinM)
Junglefever: 2 (Macman, Cacti)
cacti: 2 (Junglefever, Evil Eye)
Marshy: 1 (BunBun)


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Nov 14
KevinM
mentosman8
Macman
Rockin
Gheb_01

Nov 13
Omni
Matunas
Junglefever
Marshy

Nov 12
Evil Eye
BunBun
Cacti

Nov 11

INACTIVE


Inactivity Count
BunBun: 1
Ignatius: 1
Cacti: 1
Marshy: 1
Rockin: 1
mentosman8: 2
 

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Omni, Mentos do you still want to lynch BunBun?
Somebody hop on the Rockin wagon please.

This game lacks activity. People like Cacti and EE are pissing me off with their lack of commitment for this game.

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i agree. i'm aching for posts from cacti, ee, and tuna

i was expecting the rockin wagon to get more love. it's a good one

macman and cacti why are you still voting scumfever? just reread and surprised that cacti had nothing to say about the claim
 

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The only real thing that anyone has got on me is the fact that I havn't been contributing, which was indeed barely. Again, after EE's big post, I wanted to say something about it immediatly, but couldn't cause I got sidetracked from one time after another >>;;

I still think at least some to half of the scumpoints EE has given me were total crap, especially considering that during one of those 'flavor de-rails,' I was asked a question about them. I don't think this males EE scum, but could also have been misformed or misread IMO. Also don't know why KevinM is taking my simple flavor question a big deal, and making it seem like I stopped discussion when (at the time), there wasn't really any discussion. Just little conflicts and Marshy asking each one a question.

We still have like, two days till the deadline hits, and there isn't much activity taking advantage of it.
 

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So you're just skimming?
No, it was more like I didn't really see that as a question, especially since he kinda put 'vacuousness' in my quote thingie. Lack of a '?' made it even less obvious. >>

Only thing I have is just one suspect of three. I know it sucks, but I'll explain.

1) Bunbun - Has been false contributing. Not to mention he hasn't really defended himself against Mentos' post (all he said afterwards was that he'll possibly get night killed and just moved his attention to Marshy). Not cool really

everyone else on my list is more of a FoS then a big suspect, but I'll list them anyway

KevinM - Only thing I don't like about him is how he's presented the big flavor de-rail that I did early on, when I really didn't (Or at least, I didn't make my flavor question a big deal). However, I feel this is how he always plays. Casting the blame on people he feels are scummy or dumb. Still annoying regardless.

Cacti - Slightly been contributing, but he's really dropped off the radar from the last time he posted. A quick check at his latest post and he's been keeping his attention at the wonderland game recently. He just seems to be either lurking or has lost interest in the game. Regardless, he's gonna be dead weight if he's Town.

if it comes down to it, I'd rather lynch either Cacti or Bunbun (though I'm going with Bunbun for the moment), due to those things I spoke about. Whichever way, we'll have garantee of either more contributions or more activity. This really comes down to how town would like to benefit one's self.
 

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The Deadline Has Been Extended:
11:59 PM EST November 17

Evil Eye, BunBun and Cacti have been prodded


As of post 339

7/12 votes to lynch

The Current Votecount:

BunBun: 4 (Matunas, Omni, mentosman8, Rockin)
Rockin: 3 (Gheb_01, Marshy, KevinM)
Junglefever: 1 (Cacti)
cacti: 2 (Junglefever, Evil Eye)
Marshy: 1 (BunBun)


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Nov 15
mentosman8
Gheb_01
Marshy
Junglefever
Macman
KevinM

Nov 14

Nov 13
Omni
Matunas

INACTIVE
Evil Eye
BunBun
Cacti



Inactivity Count
mentosman8: 2
BunBun: 2
Cacti: 2
Ignatius: 1
Marshy: 1
Rockin: 1
Evil Eye: 1
 

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OK, I really don't see anyone completely scummy in this game, but there are definitely some foses, and I'll have to go for lynching those as the deadline is quickly approaching.

I think that a Rockin lynch would be one thing that I might advocate, as Rockin is downplaying his flavor derail right now, repeating that it was just one harmless question. It took away 2+ of the town's days, and I think that Rockin might've been planning this from the start. In the beginning, he says this.

Oooooh, Monster. A game where I don't know what the hell its about
An open question that might lead to flavor discussion. When he sees it didn't work, he asks the direct question, that started this whole derail in the first place.

Another thing is that he also said was that he lets nature take its course. This could be an excuse for him to not try to start discussion, and coast through people's attempts to get us out of RVS.

I usually just let nature take its course.

Now tell me...what the hell is Monster about? I'm very new to this.
Bunbun works too for reasons stated by other people, but I'd rather lynch Rockin, as some scumtells people have agsint Bunbun may just be newbie mistakes. I am not sure about this, though, as I always seem to be wrong about dumbtells vs scumtells.
 

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I still think Rockin's flavor derail wasn't meant to drive town out of discussion. I too didn't know much about the flavor, and if someone hadn't posted about Scumfever's character's story I would have found his claim a bit more odd. As a whole, I can understand why Rockin would want some background on the flavor going in, and think he was honestly just trying to have some people give some info to him so he had an idea what was going on. Right now I still feel a BunBun lynch.
 

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I forgot to mention it last too, if anything Rockin should be called out on skimming, not on the flavor derail. I'm most confident in a BunBun lynch today as I said, and during night I will go back and see if that skimming has been consistent and I've missed it.
 

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ee consider a replacement

fos cacti for ignoring my 332 question

KevinM - Only thing I don't like about him is how he's presented the big flavor de-rail that I did early on, when I really didn't (Or at least, I didn't make my flavor question a big deal). However, I feel this is how he always plays. Casting the blame on people he feels are scummy or dumb. Still annoying regardless.
this reeks of your thought process in spidey maf when you vigged someone for questioning your bad posts

i see rockin as an active lurker. i'll switch to bunbun tomorrow if he's not getting lynched

if there's a vig rid us of rockin immediately
 

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if there's a vig rid us of rockin immediately
you know better than this, marshy. you're a smart experienced player so why would you throw in suggestions like this

if there's a vig use your own discretion.
 

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After reading through two of Marshy's old/current games, I feel a lot less confident about the scum feel on him. unvote

Rockin, why did you list KevinM in your suspicions if your explanation basically included "meh it's how he usually plays"?
 

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Directing the Vig is dumb because anyone can do it really.

That's my only qualm with it and if the Vig is new and just listens to any player well they may end up just shooting someone without even knowing why.

I'd much rather them use their own discretion.
 

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why is directing the vig a problem?
wow. clearly because of possible bus if there's a driver role in the game.

this **** should be common knowledge. step it up.

thankfully now that i brought it up it's become a decent gambit.
 

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An open question that might lead to flavor discussion. When he sees it didn't work, he asks the direct question, that started this whole derail in the first place.
It was really me being non chalant about the ordeal of me being in a game flavor I've never been in before. Flavors before this, I either knew them or recognized (Mcfox's dinomaf is one that I recognized). Really, I was just stating out that I didn't really know about the theme of the game, so this is actually my first one. PW Mafia is also sorta my first one as well, but at the same time, I know of its concepts and a few of its character. In this game...yeah, I don't know ****. >>;;

Another thing is that he also said was that he lets nature take its course. This could be an excuse for him to not try to start discussion, and coast through people's attempts to get us out of RVS.
Or it could've been that I was talking just that: let nature take its course. Throughout the course of my Mafia days here, I noticed recently that several try to get out of the RVS stage more quickly, when that itself is difficult to pass.Some, if not, all RVS I've seen usually, in the later run, help generate discussion. Whether it's due to a slip by someone or someone going a bit too far in the votes, they eventually generate to discussion. This is what I mean by nature taking it's course: I look and see how things react and evolve. Of course, I try my best not to coast/lurk (However, I end up doing it...half the time is when I don't know how to generate discussion. Half of the other time is when I get sidetracked or busy and then post later)

So yeah, not a open line of me coasting. Just generally look at the reactions from said incident and scumhunt.

this reeks of your thought process in spidey maf when you vigged someone for questioning your bad posts
Understand this Marshy, yes I failed in spidermafia. That will always be known. I still do not like the fact that the said person that accused me decides to restrict me on one post. Out of all people, I felt I didn't deserve that, especially since there were possibly other people to do that. As a vig, even though I had a good feeling the silencer was Maf, I wanted to avoid using my shot, especially since that same person got replaced. I was hoping Warioman (now known as SwordsRBroken) would be more helpful and not targeted me, but once he did....bang.

The issue with KevinM is different then this incident entirely and I will explain that. Just note that I had my reasons, whether it was crummy or not. If you target a restriction he REALLY didn't deserve, especially something that discredits their chance to contribute, 9/10 I WILL shoot you.

Rockin, why did you list KevinM in your suspicions if your explanation basically included "meh it's how he usually plays"?
Because from what I seen before, he does a mixture of contributing and pressuring his suspects. When they say something he doesn't like, it's a instant bw.

KevinM is constantly pushing the same thing at me more then once even though I told him my opinion about. The little 'de-rail flavor' thing and it's irritating because it was just one thing. Even though I spoke out to him my opinion about the de-rail, he continues to blame on me instead of trying to...you know, further the case.
 

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Macman 42
Omni 41
Gheb_01 36
Mediocre 34
Scumfever 31
KevinM 29
BunBun 28
Rockin 25
mentosman8 24
Marshy 20
Cacti 17
Bumble Bee Matunas 14
Evil Eye 7
Ignatius 2

This is the current post count. Only 3 players have more posts than the mod. How is this possible? Call me "Activity Police" as much as you like but this has gotten beyond ridiculous. There is no justification for a townie to play like this. How are we supposed to play D2 with 4-5 notoriously inactive players? Even with Iggy's input EE has not managed to post a mere ten times. Matunas and Cacti both have less than 20 posts and neither has contributed anything noteworthy. The same is true for Rockin and Scumfever. You can't all be mafia trying to give us as little input as possible so start posting toMorroww please or esle you'll make town lose this by your inactivity.

Rockin and BunBun are tied now and the deadline is today. We need a majority. Can we like come to a conclusion about whom should be lynched? I still think Rockin's our best bet but I suppse lynching BunBun will give us some decent info. If all else fails I can vote him.
Inactivity could start to **** us toMorrow already but policy lynching inactives will give us little info. This sucks.

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vote: Rockin

AFter rereading through the thread, I'm okay with Rockin's lynch today. I think bunbun is just geniunely making newbie mistakes. It seems to be (especially in teh post above) he's sort of half assing a defense/being 'i was just being lolwhatever'
 

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I think that a Rockin lynch would be the best, as it would give us some reads on the people who were pressuring/defending Rockin. I don't really think that he's scum after that defense of his, and it seems like that this is all because of the flavor derail thing, but it looks like a lynch is swaying his way, and as I said before, we could get some good reads.
 

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I think that a Rockin lynch would be the best, as it would give us some reads on the people who were pressuring/defending Rockin. I don't really think that he's scum after that defense of his, and it seems like that this is all because of the flavor derail thing, but it looks like a lynch is swaying his way, and as I said before, we could get some good reads.
If you don't feel I'm scum, then don't. If I were to come up as town, it could probably make you look bad in the long run. You're just basically going with the crowd and that isn't good.
 

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BunBun: 4 (Matunas, Omni, mentosman8, Rockin)
Rockin: 5 (Gheb_01, Marshy, KevinM, Cacti, scumfever)
cacti: 1 (Evil Eye)
Not voting: 2 (Macman, BunBun)
medi please include "not voting" in votecounts

ill switch to bunbun if those who aren't voting rockin wont compromise
 

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You know, if it'll make you feel any better, I'll claim.

my name is Wolfgang Grimmer, and I'm a paranoid gun owner. Every night, I can switch on my ''fist' (replacement of guns lol) from either on or off.

I still think the case against me is bull****. >>;;
 
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