tl;dr message before my post: Puff is pretty much top tier, doubt she's number one, I don't know **** about the rest of the tier list
puff as one...I don't know man. I know puff ***** falco and fox (see mango and hbox). Any little mistake either of them makes is a rest. Not teching, not sweetspoting ledge (as if they will get to the ledge anyways), missing l-cancel, missing DI on uthrow, etc. But I'm just full of **** though. Maybe if the fox is like TA godly perfect it's even. I definitely think puff is top tier though, just...in no particular order. She has pretty strong counterpick stages. Good luck beating a puff on brinstar
I don't know about the rest. I almost want to say fox is still the best, but I don't really see people winning those big nationals with fox because it's incredibly difficult to play so well for so long. Depends if you think the tier list should be mostly based on ideal conditions/playing (yet somewhat realistic) or based on practicality and tournament results that back it up.
Heh I kind of agree with marth's placement in m2k's list. Marth hasn't been doing well for quite a while. Don't know about the rest. And who gives a **** about any character below ganon
edit: Nvm, looked at m2k post in that thread. If only I could learn to play puff, but I hate puff. Makes me feel like I am playing brawl in melee.