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[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Can you please be a little bit more specific about this? "I like their most recent posts" doesn't tell me very much. WHAT did you like about mine/Gheb's/JDietz's recent posts?

Gheb's more recent posts gave me more of his mindset. I like where he is giving his thoughts and

Same with Deitz.

Your lengthy post really delved into what you thought of the cast and was mostly unprovoked if I remember, more initiative.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Seriously hate playing with Ryu, he ruins like every game. Would be OK to just have him executed on principle before it's too late - and I don't say things like that too often. The saddest part is that he's probaly town anyway and will continue to refuse any sort of change or improvement in his game. Watch him do the exact same bull**** in the next game he plays and lose it for town again, like he did in Tranquility.

But I mean is that all you're going to focus on? Like I've done other things this game besides try to read you, what about those things (I'm not actually expecting you to answer this this Day phase since it's about to end?

I find it generally not easy to learn a lot from people's reads in this game because most of them are pretty undisputed as of now. S'all good Man is generally seen as town, Dietz and I are generally seen as nullish, most people have you as townish and virtually everybody agreed with executing Xatres toDay. That leaves HBW and Ryu as the only "controversial" players where opinions are spread all across the board and thus the only instances where there's a likely discrepancy between what town wants and what scum is pushing for. So there really isn't anything else to focus on because I can't make any comments on your other reads - they're pretty much the same as everybody else's.

 

[Hardbody Warrior]

Gheb's more recent posts gave me more of his mindset. I like where he is giving his thoughts and

Same with Deitz.

Your lengthy post really delved into what you thought of the cast and was mostly unprovoked if I remember, more initiative.

dude

who the **** is scum other than xat? i know im not scum. i doubt sall is either. gheb/dietz/dancer are all town because...

they put thought into their posts

****ing wow dude. if you are town you need to reevaluate your townreads on gheb/jdietz cuz theyve failed to do absolutely anything protown this game. anyways ill see you d2 cuz even if you are town i doubt scum would be so generous as to get rid of you for all of us im prolly not getting nkilled either

 

[Hardbody Warrior]

btw need to reanalyze **** dependent on flip. gheb didnt go as bus/distance happy as id expect him to as scum if xat flips scum but this is an off the cuff observation ill weigh more after the fact. just gotta look for **** like that

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Of course the two slots that have "failed to do absolutely anythig protown this game" according to you also happen to be the ones who read you as suspicious

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

dude

who the **** is scum other than xat? i know im not scum. i doubt sall is either. gheb/dietz/dancer are all town because...

they put thought into their posts

****ing wow dude. if you are town you need to reevaluate your townreads on gheb/jdietz cuz theyve failed to do absolutely anything protown this game. anyways ill see you d2 cuz even if you are town i doubt scum would be so generous as to get rid of you for all of us im prolly not getting nkilled either

We can tango tomarrow.

 

[S'all Good Man]

Seriously hate playing with Ryu, he ruins like every game. Would be OK to just have him executed on principle before it's too late - and I don't say things like that too often. The saddest part is that he's probaly town anyway and will continue to refuse any sort of change or improvement in his game. Watch him do the exact same bull**** in the next game he plays and lose it for town again, like he did in Tranquility.

I notice Ryu never really responded to this. I expected some OH **** PERSONAL GHEB YOU ARE BAD NOT ME interactions, but nothing. This also shows Ryu doesn't want to rustle feathers. I also think Gheb is wrong on HBW, I can understand his mindset wrt Ryu and Xatres. Ryu also never stated why Swords should be looked at tomorrow, he still talks about how he felt he was fine.

 

[S'all Good Man]

Upon reconsideration Xat really should go first logically. Even if I think you're wrong in the way I feel you've been approaching stuff upon coming back (I do) you're clearly here and posting and at least attempting to justify it, and we can work with that. I would feel really stupid if we shot you and you flipped town and then we went to Xat and he was scum...

I think this should be looked at closer as well. JD was starting to push Hardbody with me initially but after I dropped it, he started to come to his senses too. Initially I liked his thought process but this is concerning, and JD isn't very much of a presence.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

I notice Ryu never really responded to this. I expected some OH **** PERSONAL GHEB YOU ARE BAD NOT ME interactions, but nothing.

Yeah, I noticed that too. Really wouldn't mind seeing Ryu dead toMorrow, regardless of Xatres' flip tbh.

 

[S'all Good Man]

That leaves HBW and Ryu as the only "controversial" players where opinions are spread all across the board and thus the only instances where there's a likely discrepancy between what town wants and what scum is pushing for. So there really isn't anything else to focus on because I can't make any comments on your other reads - they're pretty much the same as everybody else's.

Well, if Xat is scum, that would make sense, since he would be 1/2 scum in the setup. Add to that Xat has given no information or substance, therefore NO PUSHES that would be controversial. That would mean the rest of the game would be town, and all are probably fine with the direction because they have no 'buddies' to try to avoid/bus.

 

[S'all Good Man]

(Besides Ryu/HBW)

I still think Xat > Ryu is makes sense as opposed to Xat > HBW. Ryu has been backpeddaling a bit while HBW has stayed firm on both of them, yet only changed his mind about the order between Ryu/Xat, not the reasoning as Ryu has been doing.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

At least we have something to work with toMorrow in case Xatres flips town.

 

[S'all Good Man]

I'll retract on the 'backpeddaling', but rather I think Ryu has been flimsy with his approach towards HBW. I don't have much more time, I'm late for class.

 

[S'all Good Man]

At least we have something to work with toMorrow in case Xatres flips town.

If Xat flips town then I'd worry about one of JD/You. More learning towards JD. I can't really find much on you Gheb, so I'm just hoping you are wrong on HBW and really don't see Ryuscum.

God I don't want to think of Xat being town.

;-;

Ok. Bye thread.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Well, Raz suggested to replace him in Diplomacy and he hasn't answered despite him getting tagged a lot in this game. Executing him was probably the lesser evil but I wouldn't bank on him flipping scum too much ... his "play" was straight-up unacceptable though I'm always assuming the worst.

And since we've started to talk about Ryu, I don't think his posts after Sword decided to execute Xatres are doing him any favors.

 

[S'all Good Man]

@ #HBC | Gorf

Where the **** are you. I think deadline is past, and Xat was executed. Cmon man. This is turning into twilight. Although I am glad I was able to get everything out I could.

I'm fine the night ending right now. Nothing I can do until I get a flip.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

Sorry!!! I'm not subbed to this thread !!

Flip incoming

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

K found the execution.

Xatres, Villager, has been executed! Deadline is Tuesday, March 11th at 11:59 EST!

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

Sworddancer., Villager, has been executed!

Sall Good Man is now king! Deadline is 3/15/14 at 11:59 PM EST

 

[Hardbody Warrior]

@Ranmaru

lynch a townie and end the game if youre scum. if not then cool we proceed with the dayphase as planned

 

[S'all Good Man]

Don't worry bro, i'm town.

Now we have much more work thanks to Xat ****ing it up for us.

I think we can start with Ryu and one of Gheb/JD.

 

[Hardbody Warrior]

btw guys im the kingmaker

 

[Hardbody Warrior]

@Xatres

**** you

and word ran cool. im glad i didnt just throw it today. anyways ill be on again in <24 hrs dont lynch without me we might as well squeeze out discussion since we need to wrangle a townread out of gheb/jd/ruy. this will be no easy task considering theyve all played like *******

 

[S'all Good Man]

Yeah we deff need discussion. I'll think of a direction/what to do later, I also have to sleep.

 

[#HBC | Dancer]

Hey I'm grump.

And I'm dead grump.

And we're the town grumps!

 

[S'all Good Man]

@ #HBC | Red Ryu :

Time to redeem yourself. Why are you not scum? Who IS scum?

@ ~ Gheb ~
@ Jdietz43

Remind me your reads on each other. Do you both agree now that Ryu may be scum? If so, who would be scum with him? One of Gheb/JD or HBW? Why or why not?

 

[S'all Good Man]

@ Hardbody Warrior :

Also wondering, why did you choose Swords D1 and then me ToDay? Just wondering.

 

[Hardbody Warrior]

i chose dancer cuz i knew he wouldnt be obnoxious about the lynch. i figured if he was town hed do a good job of expanding discussion and if he was scum then maybe hed have a tough time of being put in that position and possibly slip. i chose you today cuz youre my townbro and i refuse to townread any of gheb/jd/ruy for the ****ing terrible way they have all played this game. im salty cuz if xat had tried we couldve just done what i said early d1 yesterday which was ruy -> jd or vice versa and thisdve been easy. at the very least i take solace in knowing we punished ****tyass play that is completely unacceptable

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

>thisdve

sorry i had to

 

[Hardbody Warrior]

this would have

cmon bruh this is like perfect grammar here

 

[Hardbody Warrior]

hey scum

how bout one of you have some balls and counterclaim me? cmon. you and me one on one. i love a good fistfight

 

[Jdietz43]

@ #HBC | Red Ryu :

Time to redeem yourself. Why are you not scum? Who IS scum?

@ ~ Gheb ~
@ Jdietz43

Remind me your reads on each other. Do you both agree now that Ryu may be scum? If so, who would be scum with him? One of Gheb/JD or HBW? Why or why not?

I don't think I really had a read on Gheb to be honest and he was sitting at null. I was glad he seemed to mirror my concern with how HBW jumped around but besides that I didn't get any real feel for his content.

Uh yeah I do lol. If HBW is kingmaker and you haven't shot anyone already the PoE from "I'm a villger" to Gheb/Ryu scumteam is the easiest thing ever. Literally unless one of them is bout to counterclaim kingmaker the discussion on "who is scum" for me personally is over.

It should be pretty easy to see for you guys as well now after Ryu refused to comment at all when asked to clarify his reads before flips (driving johns aside) and with that HBW/Dancer lynchpool which was never justified and is now dead in the water, but even better I think is the sudden move to "OH GOD RYU SUCKS" by Gheb in 4322. "Rev up your bus engines boys! Flip hasn't even happened yet but it's time to take the next step and brace for the worst since Ran already said Ryu is on his hitlist oh nooo". There it is folks: the Gheb bus you were waiting for.

And before Marshy comes in here and tells me I'm worthless because I can't magically and immediately prove my alignment or change what I thought after PoE proved me wrong: At least I went with my subpar reads even if for some reason people didn't like I conceded to do what literally every other town member wanted to do in lynching Xat as first priority and you personally think I didn't achieve anything. I think I did fine so far speaking only when it had at least some purpose and not screwing up thread for everyone else, and frankly that was my only goal this game. *gold star*

 

[Jdietz43]

And yes, before you ask I'm believing the HBW claim atm. The way he barely even cared about switching all his priorities definitely felt like it came from the mindset of someone who knew they could clear themselves in retrospect. Maybe that's shallow as hell, but I don't really care at all until/unless one of the others is going to claim back.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Remind me your reads on each other. Do you both agree now that Ryu may be scum? If so, who would be scum with him? One of Gheb/JD or HBW? Why or why not?

Unless somebody counterclaims marshy the scumteam would have to be Ryu + Dietz. Marshy is kingmaker and I doubt Ryu is going to counterclaim him ... I doubt anybody'd believe it. And if you were scum you'd have just executed a townie by now to win the game. So from an outsider's PoV it would have to be Dietz, Ryu or me though obviously I know that I am a Villager and since everybody agrees that Ryu is scum it's going to come down to convince you guys that Dietz is scum ... something that I admittedly did not believe to be the case on D1. It's gonna be weird for me to dig through Dietz' posts KNOWING that he's scum but still present my arguments in a convincing manner. I will have to read up through them again though ...

In hindsight I feel dumb for not realizing that marshy is the kingmaker. His choice of Sworddancer on D1 kinda made it obvious tbh. Oh well, the game is as good as won anyway.

[...] even better I think is the sudden move to "OH GOD RYU SUCKS" by Gheb in 4322. "Rev up your bus engines boys! Flip hasn't even happened yet but it's time to take the next step and brace for the worst since Ran already said Ryu is on his hitlist oh nooo". There it is folks: the Gheb bus you were waiting for.

Do you understand what bussing even means? Bussing doesn't mean "complaining about Ryu's ****ty ass play". It means bussing him as in push for his lynch in full force to make sure that you look good upon his scumflip. Do you think I'd look good upon Ryu's scumflip here? After going up against marshy's scumread or Ryu and argue for townRyu? That's obviously not bussing, it's me simply changing my mind but apparently I am not even allowed to do that anymore because every time I'm on a correct lynch I've *obviously* been bussing. That's not how a mafia game works. You can't point at everything I've done wrong and scream "scum!" but then also point out everything I've done right and scream "bus!" You're taking the easy way out now but mafia isn't that easy.

For the record: In literally *every* game marshy or I play with Ryu somebody will inevitably start to rage abut his ****ty ass play. Nobody in their right mind has ever read anything telling into that, let alone a bus.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

this would have

cmon bruh this is like perfect grammar here

I know I love it and I always know what you're saying, it's just funny every time and this time you combined THREE words into one

 

[S'all Good Man]

Alright guys. Why is who you think is scum is scum? Convince me. I would be more specific but I'm on borrowed time here.

I'll be out to the gym and check back later but don't expect too much thought today! But plz help me out

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

btw guys im the kingmaker

Wat.

@ #HBC | Red Ryu :

Time to redeem yourself. Why are you not scum? Who IS scum?

@ ~ Gheb ~
@ Jdietz43

Remind me your reads on each other. Do you both agree now that Ryu may be scum? If so, who would be scum with him? One of Gheb/JD or HBW? Why or why not?

I know I have been less active and busy but it's been a lot of irl problems.

It's Dietz and Gheb as a scum team.

 

[Hardbody Warrior]

weve got some ***** ass scum in this game. i was hoping one would be up to throw down with me

anyways ive made up my mind regarding the scumteam butll wait for the sake of discussion. ran ill post who i think you should kill before deadline

 

[Hardbody Warrior]

@ #HBC | Red Ryu

what can ran and i look at that suggests a gheb/jd team? is there anything that makes you look town? WHAT in ghebs posts yesterday had you thinking he was town? dont pull a xatres play ball with the king

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

@ #HBC | Red Ryu

what can ran and i look at that suggests a gheb/jd team? is there anything that makes you look town? WHAT in ghebs posts yesterday had you thinking he was town? dont pull a xatres play ball with the king

Look at yesterday and today. It's PoE at this point I'd have to look at their play and show why they have been scummy than I have

I've been playing straight town, lazy bit town.

He was looking better when he actually started doing ****, better than his early game.