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Mini Mafia Game Thread | Newbies are welcome! | Town wins Gheb's game | Zen next to host!

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Hardbody Warrior

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Look at yesterday and today. It's PoE at this point I'd have to look at their play and show why they have been scummy than I have.
please do so. i understand youve been busy as of late but i doubt itd take you more than a half hour (and we have like 3 days) to point out something for me and ran to chew on while we deliberate here
 

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Do you understand what bussing even means? Bussing doesn't mean "complaining about Ryu's ****ty *** play". It means bussing him as in push for his lynch in full force to make sure that you look good upon his scumflip. Do you think I'd look good upon Ryu's scumflip here? After going up against marshy's scumread or Ryu and argue for townRyu? That's obviously not bussing, it's me simply changing my mind but apparently I am not even allowed to do that anymore because every time I'm on a correct lynch I've *obviously* been bussing. That's not how a mafia game works. You can't point at everything I've done wrong and scream "scum!" but then also point out everything I've done right and scream "bus!" You're taking the easy way out now but mafia isn't that easy.

For the record: In literally *every* game marshy or I play with Ryu somebody will inevitably start to rage abut his ****ty *** play. Nobody in their right mind has ever read anything telling into that, let alone a bus.

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Okay, but you were clearly opening that door back up for the worst case scenario. It's not a hard bus (yet), but you shoved your foot in the door on the topic so you wouldn't look twice as bad in the scenario where Ryu is shot and you have to pick up the pieces. You can say bringing up the topic of lynching him on principal isn't a bus in semantic terms, but it's a clear indication of your willingness to go against what you already thought of Ryu before the flips and the HBW reveal came. You were setting up to change your stance for the wrong reasons. You found a way to say the equivalent of "I would kill this man if you guys go that way, don't look into it" while still calling him "probably town anyway" in the same post.
 

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I'd have to look at their play and show why they have been scummy than I have
Yeah. You should do that. I have a policy brief to do right now and a midterm on thursday. I think you can do something.

Ryu, who should I shoot ToDay and why?

Same question to @ ~ Gheb ~ ~ Gheb ~ @ Jdietz43 Jdietz43

This means I don't want a pair. Just individual. Who should go FIRST.

@ Hardbody Warrior Hardbody Warrior

Do you think swords was killed because he was king or because of his reads?
 

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ill answer that later. anyways man the deadline is the 15th your time. that means i got 48 hours to weigh in my time. do not lynch before i tell you who i think should die today. i prolly wont do **** in the meantime
 

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Man. No one gonna even try? Cmon.

@ ~ Gheb ~ ~ Gheb ~
@ Jdietz43 Jdietz43
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I promise you if you post more/try more I might read you as town.

I still have a policy paper and midterm to study for. Get in here.

One of the three you are town and BETTER make me believe you are town. CMON
 

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@ ranmaru ranmaru @ #HBC | marshy #HBC | marshy

I've reread the game, I get why you guys don't like me right now. But listen to me here, I've been busy and trying to work out a lot of irl issues.

I've reread Dietz and Gheb, neither one has tried to take a stance or even put something decent out there unless absolutely necessary, I at least tried to make a read on players with what they have tried to put out there. Gheb waited til the end of the day phase before he made an attempt to do a read nor get his feet wet. Dietz has made more effort but still he hasn't tried to make a real push til PoE sat in.

Ran, execute Gheb first.
 

Hardbody Warrior

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@ ranmaru ranmaru @ #HBC | marshy #HBC | marshy

I've reread the game, I get why you guys don't like me right now.
no ****ing ****. guess townreading everyone in the game for absolutely no ****ing reason isnt the smartest play now is it?

luckily for you im ready to end this dayphase

ran hardbody the **** out of jd for being scummy as **** and lets call it a game. ill handle the rest. btw fyi in lylo/mylo you will have better luck identifying scum through early game interactions than anything during endgame. whatever you do DO NOT let jd live past today. his entire play has been complete 110% **** from his very first post and i have no interest in allowing him to pollute this thread with any more atrocious mother****ing posts than necessary

vote jdietz
 

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aight

As scummy as Ryu has been, I still have the concerns of jd/gheb.

If JD flipped scum, who would you think would be the next scum Marshy?
 

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I'll shoot JD after you answer my q Marshy.

Also why do you think Swords was killed?
 

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@ ranmaru ranmaru @ #HBC | marshy #HBC | marshy

I've reread the game, I get why you guys don't like me right now. But listen to me here, I've been busy and trying to work out a lot of irl issues.

I've reread Dietz and Gheb, neither one has tried to take a stance or even put something decent out there unless absolutely necessary, I at least tried to make a read on players with what they have tried to put out there. Gheb waited til the end of the day phase before he made an attempt to do a read nor get his feet wet. Dietz has made more effort but still he hasn't tried to make a real push til PoE sat in.

Ran, execute Gheb first.
You make a good point actually.

@ ~ Gheb ~ ~ Gheb ~
@ Jdietz43 Jdietz43
 

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nvm about the swords kill

I think I get why he might have been killed.

anyways. just tell me. gheb or ryu tomorrow? TELL ME. I'M DYING TO KNOW :crazy:
 

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You make a good point actually.

@ ~ Gheb ~ ~ Gheb ~
@ Jdietz43 Jdietz43
What, no he doesn't. He's completely sweeping my opinions and questioning of HBW under the rug and not examining Gheb's level of contribution at all, opting to just say he came in later and leave it at that.

#hypocritedidn'thaveareadonGhebatallbeforenow

I don't give a **** who you shoot first as long as you eventually punish Ryu for trying to wifom his own opinion of shooting his partner first.

no ****ing ****. guess townreading everyone in the game for absolutely no ****ing reason isnt the smartest play now is it?

luckily for you im ready to end this dayphase

ran hardbody the **** out of jd for being scummy as **** and lets call it a game. ill handle the rest. btw fyi in lylo/mylo you will have better luck identifying scum through early game interactions than anything during endgame. whatever you do DO NOT let jd live past today. his entire play has been complete 110% **** from his very first post and i have no interest in allowing him to pollute this thread with any more atrocious mother****ing posts than necessary

vote jdietz
Smd in post, because you do this every time and I'm tired of it.
 

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I don't care if he was or wasn't, they're both scummates. My point is he just generalized, he doesn't even try to have a reason Gheb should go first, he's just saying it to make this whole situation harder to read.
 

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You can't believe my PoE scumread? You act like I have the option of pretending Ryu isn't scum and giving what he says a pass when I know he has to be. Just shoot me then.

I'll go back and read Gheb, but what would it mean to you if he did put out a scumread early.
 

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Well Gheb did contribute if you count distancing Ryu and calling both hiim and you a town read and then condemning Xatres.

Willing to ignore Ryu until he gives me a reason to take him serious.



Ryu: "Hey @Xatres I think you rolled scum based on nothing. I also wanna know who you think is scum based on nothing."
Xatres: "Uhhh, I can't answer that because there's nothing to base things on yet @ #HBC | Red Ryu #HBC | Red Ryu ."
Ryu: "Wow, that's a very defensive response and I don't like it."

**** outa here.

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I was waiting for that kind of response. But I'm *not* gonna be waiting for your approach to once again lead nowhere. There may very well be a reason you ask these kind of questions but there's also a reason why I feel the need to intervene here. After what happened during D1 last game and how it ended up affecting the rest of the game, I'm not gonna just watch the exact course of action unfold now.



It's not a good approach but it seems more authentic than what he did to Nabe last game. I'm sure the Vinyl head of your hydra would agree with me here as he also played that game. It's a slight hint towards Ryu either being town or him having learned his lesson from last game. I'm inclined to think its the former for now.

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@Xatres

There's enough to talk about right now. No johns. What do you think about my evaluation of Ryu's play so far? What do you make of him "not liking" my response?

@Sworddancer.

Relevant info is that I'm leaning town on Ryu and Goodman. The former I've covered in my previous post and the latter has legit tried to get some discussion going. It's hard to really gain a scumread though because there's too many people that haven't said a whole lot yet, including yourself. Then you have HBW, Xatres and kinda Dietz who just made his first post with a little bit of content ... that's more than half of the game that still has to take a legit stance on anything.

:059:

That's all in the first two pages, and stuff you'd think Ryu would remember considering they were chiefly about him. HINT HINT DISTANCING
 

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It literally does not matter as long as it's one of those two. You wanna shoot Gheb, great. You wanna shoot Ryu, great. Whichever one you think gives the best chance of putting the pieces together tomorrow.

They want me to fall in the trap of saying one or the other and making it seem like 2 scum votes aimed together vs 1 town vote with me being the odd man out on that "scum" side by voting each other and I'm not going to play ball.
 

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Yesterday you were confident in HBW, but now you don't have a solid pick for toDay.

I'
Ran

You have to be kidding me if you think I care which one goes or that I'd continue a HBW push after he claimed kingmaker unopposed. I have two solid picks and they are absolute. As in will not ever change because those are the correct answers.

I'm not picking one because 1) it doesn't matter
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2) I'm not letting them trap me looking like part of a scumteam. If I voted for someone all they'd have to do is have Gheb vote Ryu and go "look X and JD are voting the same person, they're probably teh scumteam" and then even if their other member takes the bullet they win because I'd be killed eventually. So I'm not going to do that.
 

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lol ran chill out bruh

go head and shoot gheb. dont worry about who im makin king. ill tell gorf to tell you after i send in the action iight?

vote gheb
 

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The fact Ryu is giving you a direction first at all should be condemning, not something you're asking me for in return: becuase if Ryu was town and knew Gheb and I was the scumtteam he's opening himself up for me to just side with him by saying "yeah kill Gheb". And then all Gheb has to do is go "HEY 2 ON 1 SCUM ALERT!", and then even if you shot me first our hypothetical team against a Ryu town would win.

Hence: I AINT DOING IT
 

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aight I'm just makin sure so I can at least show you what I see

here goessssssssssssssssssssssssssssss next post gonna execute
 

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Ryu. Even though Ryu showed scumminess, he did give dislikes towards gheb early on. He just didn't give solid opinions.

That's why I said 'good point'.

Gheb only gave town reads, and while the game stagnated, he prodded three people. That was his contribution.

His xat read or w/e doesn't count.

JD was playing really safe. Remember when I pushed you? He supported me. Yet when I backed down... he reconsidered.

Ryu I have misread many times as town, and can see this play from him sometimes. So yeah. Ryu most likly townie.
 

Hardbody Warrior

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i agree that ruys the likeliest slot to be town. i HATE saying this cuz he played like SUCH a complete ****** but something stuck out to me early when i was reading. ill share it with you in postgame privately for reasons ill go further into when the time comes but yeah. the most ill publicly give is that ruy just doesnt seem to playing in a manner that he has a partner. its nice to know that were on the same page bruh. go head and pull the trigger. id say shoot gheb just cuz its been a long time since ive lynched him and if i lose at least id get to lynch him again!
 
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