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[Kantrip]

Can we take this more seriously, please? Xatres, who are you really looking into since you're leading? If you're in doubt, just start off with your most suspected interest and they'll do the job. This ruy vs nabe is really getting off-track in what we're actually facing, because I know scum wouldn't single-handedly claim like that. Someone's trying to take advantage and wanted this to happen and see if they can take the advantage.

Are you talking to yourself? You're the only one not taking it seriously....

 

[Kantrip]

You in every game past this?



I've made my stance clear.

Let's win it for town vote nabe.

wtf

k so you say let's win it for town

then you say you dont want town to win, you want to win

yet you're claiming mafia

how do you expect this to make you win?

 

[Kantrip]

k so im about 100% sure that xatres was recruited

so what we really do is kill xatres, the mafia out of nabe/ruy kills the other one (who is the cult leader)

then we lynch whoever is left over toMorrow

 

[Kantrip]

suggesting a no lynch is seriously incredibly stupid and i know xatres is analytical and logical and thought it through

he's suggesting a no lynch to save the cult leader (probably ruy since ruy is the one at risk of lynch, but it's possible it's nabe)

if we lynch mafia, we lose
if we lynch cult leader and mafia kills a townie, we're in kingmaker and with 1 townie, 1 cultist, 1 mafia, and we lose
if we no lynch, cultist gets another recruit (xatres is smart enough to take into account NAR and his plan ensures a cult win, obv scumbag) and we lose

IF we lynch the RECRUIT, mafia can kill a townie and then they lose because the cultist will recruit one making it 2 cult vs 1 mafia. Mafia's only chance there would be to kill the cult leader and go into lylo against 2 townies.

THIS MEANS THAT THE ONLY WAY WE CAN WIN IS BY LYNCHING THE CULT RECRUIT, WHICH IS XATRES

Vote: Xatres

 

[Kantrip]

Vinyl I know you dont like me but I hope you can realize what I'm saying here.

Whoever is mafia should also realize this is your only chance at winning (3-way lylo)

 

[Xatres]

Cult would have been idiotic to recruit me. They had no way of knowing mafia would let me live and kill the shrink instead. Mafia shot themselves in the foot with that move.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

^Definantly cult leader if not Nabe.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

that was @Kantrip btw.

 

[Kantrip]

Cult would have been idiotic to recruit me. They had no way of knowing mafia would let me live and kill the shrink instead. Mafia shot themselves in the foot with that move.

then why are you suggesting a plan that ensures cult leader doesnt get lynched toDay and cult wins?

 

[Kantrip]

ruy answer my questions

how does what youre doing make it in any way possible for you to win?

 

[Kantrip]

its likely

ruy leader
xatres recruit
nabe mafia

unless one of xatres/ruy are being stupid (possibly both, but then everythings out the window)

 

[Kantrip]

ruy has claimed mafia and can't be town
xatres has suggested an incredibly stupid plan that ensures a town loss

this is your last chance for one of you to realize the error of your ways and correct your mistakes

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

ruy answer my questions

how does what youre doing make it in any way possible for you to win?

I win if town ****s up I claimed because I got backed into a corner by Nabe.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

ruy has claimed mafia and can't be town
xatres has suggested an incredibly stupid plan that ensures a town loss

this is your last chance for one of you to realize the error of your ways and correct your mistakes

Nope, you're the cult leader if not nabe.

 

[Kantrip]

I win if town ****s up I claimed because I got backed into a corner by Nabe.

you werent even a for sure lynch

im sure none of us living townies will let you live in lylo, so you have a ~0.01% chance to win
fighting nabe for the lynch to try to get him lynched over yourself your odds were much better

you claiming mafia makes 0 sense unless you're cult leader

people realized this (namely vinyl and Nabe) so your recruit, xatres, proposed a no lynch plan as a back-up to save you and still get a cult win

 

[Kantrip]

@Nabe
@ Vinylic.

 

[Kantrip]

EBWOP: Should be ~0.01% chance to win

 

[Kantrip]

oh the tilde just doesnt work, I didn't typo it

 

[Xatres]

Simple. If cult successfully recruited last night, then town's already lost. Our best plan, therefore, should be one that ignores that possibility and assume only one cultist is currently alive.

Under those conditions, our best move is to force mafia to kill the cult leader for us. By no lynching, he absolutely HAS to kill the cult leader, rather than killing a townie, because he'd lose otherwise. If RR is actually mafia, then he'll be forced to kill who he ACTUALLY thinks is the cult leader, rather than trying to manipulate us into a mislynch toDay. If he IS the cult leader, he'll die tonight and then we'll either have 2 townies, 1 recruit, 1 scum in the morning OR 3 townies, 1 scum, depending on how the roleblock is used.

This is EASILY our best option. Just do the math and you'll see I'm right.

 

[Vinylic.]

Vinyl I know you dont like me but I hope you can realize what I'm saying here.

He just said he was roleblocked from D2. If that's the case, doesn't that mean the recruiting was never done?

 

[Kantrip]

you're wrong

if you're banking on cult not having a recruit, I'll work with that

5 players (cult leader vs mafia vs 3 townies)
no lynch
chance that mafia may succesfully kill cult leader for us, but he may not
if he DOES
4 players (mafia vs 3 townies) MYLO

if he DOESN'T

4 players (2 cultists vs mafia vs 1 townie) TOWN LOSS

OR

5 players (cult leader vs mafia vs 3 townies)
LYNCH cult leader
mafia kills a townie
3 players (mafia vs 2 townies) LYLO, dont have to rely on mafia to kill who we want

OR

5 players (cult leader vs mafia vs 3 townies)
LYNCH mafia (accidental because we thought it was the cult leader)
cult recruits
4 players (2 townie vs 2 cultist) TOWN LOSS

So, if cult didn't get a recruit off, we can win by No Lynching and relying on mafia to kill the leader, OR by lynching the leader and lynching the mafia in 3-way LyLo

But what if they DID get a recruit off?

5 players (2 cult vs mafia vs 2 townies)

if mafia wants to win, they need to work with town here to get rid of the cultists. So effectively it's 2 cultists vs 3 non-cultists
lynch cult leader
mafia kills the recruit, puts us in 3-way lylo with mafia and 2 townies
mafia kills a townie, puts us in 3-way kingmaker (TOWN LOSS) with 1 cult 1 mafia

WHAT IF WE LYNCH THE RECRUIT?

mafia is then FORCED to kill the cult leader
putting us in 3-way LyLo with mafia and 2 townies

if cult leader got a recruit off and we NO LYNCH
mafia can kill 1 and we'll just be in kingmaker toMorrow

WE CAN STILL WIN IF CULT GOT A RECRUIT OFF SINCE MAFIA HAS TO WORK WITH TOWN, THE 3 NON-CULTISTS LYNCH THE CULT RECRUIT, MAFIA KILLS THE LEADER, AND THEN WE DUKE IT OUT IN 3-WAY LYLO

 

[Kantrip]

He just said he was roleblocked from D2. If that's the case, doesn't that mean the recruiting was never done?

he is not the leader

he got roleblocked, but it doesnt stop the leader from recruiting him, which is evidently what happened

 

[Kantrip]

Unvote

for now

 

[Kantrip]

@ #HBC | Red Ryu what I need you to do is explain how Nabe forced you to claim and why that puts you in a better position than you were in before

@ Xatres what I need you to do is check my math

@ Vinylic. what I need you to do is trust and work with me

@Nabe what I need you to do is not be the cult leader

can you all do that for me?

 

[Vinylic.]

I basically had logic that if you killed the recruiter, it also kills the rest, right?

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Nope.

Lynch Nabe.

 

[Kantrip]

I basically had logic that if you killed the recruiter, it also kills the rest, right?

I think that's how it works in epicmafia but I don't think it works here

@ #HBC | Red Ryu you don't work with me here and I lynch you

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Enjoy you're loss then, the goal here is the lynch the Cult leader?

I'm not the cult leader, so we lynch either you or Nabe who is.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

your* **** me and english lol.

 

[Kantrip]

Vote Red Ryu

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

You suck.

 

[Kantrip]

You're being bone-headed and deserve a loss regardless of your alignment

oh and failure to answer my questions just means you don't have an answer which means you are the cult leader

 

[Kantrip]

Ninja'd.

I assume you're cult leader and didn't get a recruit off?

 

[Xatres]

Welp, that's 3/5 I believe.

I am not the recruit. We'll see how this shakes out.

 

[Kantrip]

I think Nabe is more likely mafia than Vinyl

good luck in lylo if I'm not there to join you (hopefully it happens)

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

So what was I you may ask well?

Spoiler

I am made of sex

Gameplan:

Step 1: Play like a troll
Step 2: Lynch the Kryptonite if people bite into it
Step 3: recruit the right people

Issue though, Dark Horse **** blocked my recruit.

GL finding the last mafia.

I love rolling Indy so much, <3

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Also I didn't buy a single piece of thing I threw at Nabe, he is more likely town tough, one of Kantrip or Vinyl is mafia.

 

[Xatres]

The big advantage to my plan is that it didn't matter if Red Ryu was cult leader or mafia. If he was cult leader, he was a dead man anyways and town lives to see another day. If he was mafia, then he is forced to work with town. I'll take that scenario over the uncertainty of other options any day.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Also Nabe needs to stop reading me so accurately.

 

[Kantrip]

The big advantage to my plan is that it didn't matter if Red Ryu was cult leader or mafia. If he was cult leader, he was a dead man anyways and town lives to see another day. If he was mafia, then he is forced to work with town. I'll take that scenario over the uncertainty of other options any day.

There was certainty though. What Nabe said was true and Ruy refusing to answer solidified the fact that he couldn't be mafia because mafia wouldn't claim. It was a gambit in an attempt to get Nabe lynched over him and win as cult.

@ #HBC | Red Ryu you really believe Vinyl could be mafia?