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[Xatres]

Did anyone else completely miss the fact that we have a mafia roleblocker in the game?

Cause I just got roleblocked.

Why the heck would mafia kill the shrink? Shouldn't they want the shrink alive to block the cultist?

I am totally lost.

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

Were you informed of roleblock?

 

[Vinylic.]

Day 1 in a nutshell.

Sorry that I wasn't there, but ****ing seriously?

 

[Xatres]

Yes, I was informed I was roleblocked.

 

[Vinylic.]

So, @ Kantrip , you seemed to have voted gheb because he's your best pick? Did you still thought he was leaning both ways, or did you spot something that you haven't mentioned?

 

[Vinylic.]

Vote: Potassium

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

@ Xatres who do you finger for cult leader?

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

Righto
Burned hand, won't be here tonight, here's the lowdown
Ignore the cult recruit and especially ignore the idea that Xatres would've made a juicy target
We know Xatres to not be mafia and not be the cult leader, that's what matters toDay

 

[Xatres]

At this point, I really have no clue about anything. The thing that really stuck out to me about Gheb (which I didn't mention in the fluster of deadline panic) was him telling Dark Horse to shrink me. I thought for sure I'd be dead toDay, and really, mafia screwed both him and town over by killing the shrink. No idea what he was thinking, other than perhaps some crazy wifom that maybe the person I suspected next (nabe) would somehow get lynched instead of him D2. But then he'd lose to the cult anyways if we don't hit the leader toDay.

Side note: I'm going back to armchairing next game. Getting myself involved just screws with all my reads.

 

[Xatres]

Nabe is right in that the only way to secure a town victory at this point is to kill the cult leader toDay and mafia tomorrow. Then it'll be 1 town, 1 non-recruiting cult... which is a tie, I guess? Maybe? Who knows.

 

[Xatres]

Actually, we really only need to hit 1 cultist. Mafia has a good chance of roleblocking the leader tonight if he can figure out who it most likely is. I keep forgetting the roleblocking power.

 

[Xatres]

Or killing the cultist if he keeps roleblocking me, either way.

 

[#HBC | Dark Horse]

Go town or something

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Did anyone else completely miss the fact that we have a mafia roleblocker in the game?

Cause I just got roleblocked.

Why the heck would mafia kill the shrink? Shouldn't they want the shrink alive to block the cultist?

I am totally lost.

Did you get mod confirmation this happened?

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Righto
Burned hand, won't be here tonight, here's the lowdown
Ignore the cult recruit and especially ignore the idea that Xatres would've made a juicy target
We know Xatres to not be mafia and not be the cult leader, that's what matters toDay

Good idea.

Vote: Nabe

Nabe is the cult leader based on Day 1.

 

[Kantrip]

So, @ Kantrip , you seemed to have voted gheb because he's your best pick? Did you still thought he was leaning both ways, or did you spot something that you haven't mentioned?

seriously man im sorry im trying to play with you but your ability to form a coherent sentence just... isn't there and i dont understand what youre asking me at all

 

[Kantrip]

vinyl is mafia because what xatres says is true and no mafia who knows what they're doing would kill the shrink over the doc

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Potass

vinyl is mafia because what xatres says is true and no mafia who knows what they're doing would kill the shrink over the doc

You claimed mafia got it, help me lynch nabe so we can lynch you tomorrow.

 

[Kantrip]

Potass


You claimed mafia got it, help me lynch nabe so we can lynch you tomorrow.

thats cute

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

@ #HBC | Red Ryu
Who do you think my cult recruit was?



I generally read Ryu very well (probably by nature of being his exact age to the day, and having played with him as every combination of roles under the sun). This new abrasive style he's showcasing isn't any standard play I've ever seen from him. As a result, I suspect him to be the cult leader, a role he has never played. Here are the facts that suggest the truth of my suspicion:


- continues to vote me with the same exact force and emphasis as he did after my confirmation post, which is his first and seemingly only source of ire

- has ignored all other players in-thread to tunnel on me

- is the type of player who would affect a foreign (to him) playstyle when he receives a foreign (to him) role

- his accusation of my being scum all game, which has been constant, is only now being specified as "Nabe is cult leader!" when the specifics now actually matter

- is accusing me of being a specific role (cult leader) without offering any reasoning towards the conclusion


Vote: Red Ryu

 

[Vinylic.]

seriously man im sorry im trying to play with you but your ability to form a coherent sentence just... isn't there and i dont understand what youre asking me at all

Why did you vote gheb and what made you think he was your best choice of vote when he doesn't seem to be.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Cult recruit was either Xatres or Potassium.

Nabe I already explained why you are scum but at this point it is clear you are the cult leader off Day 1.

 

[Kantrip]

Why did you vote gheb and what made you think he was your best choice of vote when he doesn't seem to be.

because he was my second choice after DH

 

[Kantrip]

so basically of me, ruy, nabe, vinyl

2 rolled vt
1 rolled cult leader
1 rolled mafia

xatres probably got recruited

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Unless mafia roleblocked them or a shrink stopped the recruit bit we should assume worst case scenario.

 

[Kantrip]

it would be funny if the nabe vs ruy interaction i ignored because i didnt want to read it was SvS the whole time

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

Cult recruit was either Xatres or Potassium.

Nabe I already explained why you are scum but at this point it is clear you are the cult leader off Day 1.

uh.No, you haven't.
Why am I scum and specifically cult leader "off Day 1"?

 

[Xatres]

Should have posted this earlier in the afternoon, but I'll be V/LA through late Sunday / midday Monday. Was at a big event tonight and I'm out of town all day tomorrow. Now I'm off to get 6 hours of sleep before leaving in the morning.

 

[Jdietz43]

Day 2 Begins!
With 5 alive it takes 3 to lynch!

[1] Red Ryu - Nabe
[1] Nabe - Red Ryu
[0] Xatres -
[1] Potassium - Vinyl
[0] Vinyl

[2] Not Voting - Xatres, Potassium

Deadline is Midnight Tuesday, the 18th!

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

Feeling like this game is being dodged.

 

[Kantrip]

@ #HBC | Red Ryu I too would like to know why you make the distinction of Nabe as cult leader specifically

@ #HBC | Nabe What do you propose to get the game moving?

@ Vinylic. Who would you rather lynch between Ruy and Nabe?

@ Xatres Where's your head at mang? Is Vinyl scum? Am I scum? What's up with Nabe and Ruy?

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

I propose a Ryu lynch

 

[Xatres]

I think we can safely assume that Nabe vs Ryu is still either TvS or SvS. They've been pushing each other for two days, which means if one of them was them was cultist and recruited the other, they certainly wouldn't keep pushing each other.

Truth is, I'm still inclined to side with Red Ryu against Nabe. Nabe was my initial scumpick yesterDay, and the only reason I went for Gheb instead of him was because of deadline madness. Honestly if Gheb hadn't pushed DH to waste his shrinking power on me, I likely would have pushed Nabe hard with RR and tried to force the vote that way (even though Gheb had more support).

Obviously my reads have been off this game (that's what I get for changing my playstyle), but that's where on at with those two.

As far as who I think the cult recruit COULD be... I'm not entirely sure. It's definitely NOT me, you guys would be dumb to think so. I should be dead this round. Mafia was wrong not to kill me and wrong to kill DH. At best he was worried that DH would get recruited himself, although I'm not sure if that's possible.

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

Truth is, I'm still inclined to side with Red Ryu against Nabe.

I assume that means you've found fault in this reasoning? Not having addressed it, you must not find it relevant, correct?

I generally read Ryu very well (probably by nature of being his exact age to the day, and having played with him as every combination of roles under the sun). This new abrasive style he's showcasing isn't any standard play I've ever seen from him. As a result, I suspect him to be the cult leader, a role he has never played. Here are the facts that suggest the truth of my suspicion:


- continues to vote me with the same exact force and emphasis as he did after my confirmation post, which is his first and seemingly only source of ire

- has ignored all other players in-thread to tunnel on me

- is the type of player who would affect a foreign (to him) playstyle when he receives a foreign (to him) role

- his accusation of my being scum all game, which has been constant, is only now being specified as "Nabe is cult leader!" when the specifics now actually matter

- is accusing me of being a specific role (cult leader) without offering any reasoning towards the conclusion


Vote: Red Ryu

 

[Detective Sherlock Hound]

Ok gonna say this and it is why I think Nabe is the Cult leader.

I am mafia.

Lynch me and Nabe and his Cult wins, I shot Dark Horse because I thought he was the most likely recruit.

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

Yeah, that's a no.


Hypothetical situation:

The mafia RB claims toDay to get who he thinks is the cult leader lynched. That player does flip cult leader, and the remaining numbers are 1 mafia, 1 cult, and 2 town. 1 player dies in the night, 33% chance it was cult. Remaining numbers are either maf/cult/town or maf/town/town, but either way, the claimed mafia member now has to argue that the remaining town member(s) should award him the win by lynching someone who isn't him, against the chance that both non-mafia players are town, that being the only situation in which town can win.

Town will never take the potential Prisoner's Dilemma over a win, and therefore the mafia member (assuming he is sufficiently intelligent to think a single step ahead of his claim) will never claim here.


So, what is Ryu doing?

a) Ryu is a really stupid mafia RB (I choose not to believe Ryu to be stupid)
b) Ryu is the cult leader, making a bad ploy to secure my lynch (possible, given that he only needs one non-cult lynch to win if he is cult leader)
c) Ryu is the cult recruit from last Night. Now, this one needs a bit more thought than (a) to disprove. But I feel this option to be unlikely, for two reasons:

• Ryu's style of play, and focus of attack (me) has been consistent between phases, suggesting there's been no change in his role
• There would be only two reasons to make this play as a cult recruit: if their cult leader were in danger of being lynched instead (which isn't the case), or if the recruit thought that they would claim mafia and have everyone believe it to be true, in order to force a lynch and win the game (but see (a), Ryu is not stupid)

So, the likeliest answer to the bolded question is (b) Ryu is the cult leader.

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

@ Xatres @ Vinylic. @ Kantrip

 

[Vinylic.]

Unvote

Okay. He may be either a recruit or a leader. Hafly dumb scum or town being dumb. The thing is, he can't be dumb.
If ryu's pulling our legs, I don't see the point as to why. I'm cautious about nabe, but what ryu said change my ways of thinking.

I still think potassium is scummy. I don't seem understand why xatres would agree with lynching gheb with him. Not enough time, or just one stupid mistake.

 

[Vinylic.]

Yes, I'm still baffled gheb was lynched on D1 like that.

 

[Detective Sherlock Hound]

Nabe is misleading you guys.

I would never pull this of I were telling the truth.

This is kingmaker, lynch me and cult wins.