Mini Mafia: Bowser Jr. Mafia [Ovah swam]

[Kantrip]

RR persuade me that soup is scum over just dumb.

Gheb what's your strongest scum read?

 

[#HBC | Joker]

ewwwwww, that vote on me

 

[Kantrip]

Elaborate. That post was not enough to explain why me voting you is bad.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Kantrip, read Soup's posts to me.

He makes it clear he thinks I am full of **** but then keeps posting to me and tunneling me about it on something he thinks I am completely lying about.

Soup isn't being dumb, he's trying to fake this. Even more so when,

I asked why you're willing to believe it, no questioning it at all. Instead of sticking to your ****ty story how about you apply some logic to the situation because unless you believe that somehow zen would make the game deliberately unfair for Swords then you're talking out of your ***. Read what I said again, if you come back here and give me lip I will lead a lynch on you.

he goes from this to,

Why are you so hung up on your apparent guilty?

He makes it clear he thinks I am lying but leaves the option open I am telling the truth, and then to,

You're not this stupid. Nobody is. You're not claiming anything else and you're not implying a DayCop. You're being ignorant towards the whole situation and I'm officially ignoring you if you continue to be completely useless. Posting about your guilty doesn't get your guilty lynched.

Back to I am lying again and then after threatening to lynch me is claiming to ignore me to,

Because.
This.
Isn't.
A.
Normal.
Game.

He thought I was possibly telling the truth.

No one from a town PoV would think like this flip floppy style, he made it clear he thought I was lying but then backed up twice that I could be telling the truth.

 

[Kantrip]

Hmm. Good post, Ruy. I like it.

Talk to me about Joker and I'll think about joining you on soup.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

Hey guys.

I think Ruy is lying about having that role PM. lets tunnel it for a long time and make it clear I am tunneling him about have it, hey lets keep posting and make it clear I think he is lying and keep pressing him on it.

Yeah calling this an abnormal game is not gonna cut it with me Soup, you had no reason as town to keep posting like that and even more so with that last post I voted you for.

You claim your gonna lynch me, but then double back and ignore me? Yeah fake posts are fake.

Let's lynch him, we got a scummer boys.

You can (almost) do anything. Nothing is out of the possibility and you're ignoring the factors of what I said. You coulda just said 'oh no I'm lying' because clearly you didn't give a **** about swords anymore. What did you gain out of that reaction? Why Gambit? Hell, why react like this to me questioning you? Is it not my right to question something that is bull****, something that you admitted to be bull****? I'm scum because I happened to call you out on something and you're mad. That's all I really see.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

Ryu, I'm going to have the possibility that you're telling the truth. I thought you were spouting bull**** but If you appealed to some reason, then I might have changed my mind. You didn't. You made yourself look like an idiot because 1) Gambits are stupid and 2) You made a situation easily avoidable into some conflict and now you're throwing your vote at me because somehow, questioning flawed logic is now scummy.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

"Tunneling"

Really now? Tunneling? Did you drop your head or something Ryu? Did you forget how to play mafia? You think I was tunneling? I asked you to appeal to me and you had a ****ing fit and said 'nyeh i dont want to do that wahh wahh lynch my guilty'. You literally brought this on yourself.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

Hmm. Good post, Ruy. I like it.

Talk to me about Joker and I'll think about joining you on soup.

Lmfao this post hahahahaghhahahahahahahaa im ****ing cackling right now kantplay

 

[Kantrip]

soup it IS scummy that you called Ruy out. It was obviously not a truthful statement. And you KNEW he was lying because you made a post that said "I got a PM from the mod yadda yadda and it said RR is lying" or whatever. So we can rule out the possibility that you took him seriously.

So WHY did you call him out? You look at RR doing something you know is a lie and so obviously the intent can only be one thing: It's intentionally a lie to garner a reaction. If he's scum, he's still faking the same town behaviour because there is no OTHER benefit to the lie BESIDES looking townie. Which means either way you SHOULDNT HAVE POINTED IT OUT.

I think the way you're playing this off is way scummier than how you initially called him out, though.

 

[Kantrip]

vote soup

I'm cackling too soup. I thought you were taking a break from this game? You could use it.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

Holy **** you're scum lmfao

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

"I'm laughing too, Soupamario. I have deduced you are the mafia with my credible logic and comprehension. You were tunneling poor innocent Red Ryu, therefore you must face the gallows for your sins."

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Hmm. Good post, Ruy. I like it.

Talk to me about Joker and I'll think about joining you on soup.

Null on him.

I can believe he couldn't get a screen-cap working and him being hesitant to even quote his role PM is him being skeptical of how this worked for a Zen game.There is motication for both and his johns I find understandable since I know some comps are more tricky about that.

If he was in dead pool mafia I would take it as more of a scum tell since he would at least quote it, I don't think he was I'll check later. Still it doesn't matter, a lot of the role PM stuff isn't telling off if they posted or not imo, more so how they went about trying to get something done.

This is why I like what Gheb was trying to do, even if I don't consider him or Soup cleared off it.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

If you're going to use Mafia lingo, use it in a correct context. Tunneling implies that I'm not listening to any sort of logic and that I am not looking at the other person's argument. I was looking at it, in fact, I was imploring it. Do you think, maybe, I just wanted Red Ryu to talk more instead of going on about some fake guilty I knew was ****, and if there was a possibility that if it was real, I could get something out of him? No? You're right. Let's never question anything again. Let's just let people gambit for ****ty reasons.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

Soup lays down the gauntlet and Kantplay runs away like a little girl lmfao

vote: potassium

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

"Tunneling"

Really now? Tunneling? Did you drop your head or something Ryu? Did you forget how to play mafia? You think I was tunneling? I asked you to appeal to me and you had a ****ing fit and said 'nyeh i dont want to do that wahh wahh lynch my guilty'. You literally brought this on yourself.

Nah dude, it;s pretty clear at this point.

You made it very Very Clear you thought I was lying but kept pressing it and then flip flopping on me lying, it being possible.

You don't think like this as town, it's extremely inconsistent in the span of 4 posts you would do this.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

"Inconsistent."

Please, look at yourself. Look at your posting. Look at my reason. No, seriously, give it a good look. Did you miss the part where I wanted you to do more? What about the part where you got something out of it? Swords is no longer guilty. You're a dirty liar. Wonderful. Tell me why you did it. What's your read on Swords? Why Swords? What do you think of Potassium changing his vote so easily?

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

I ****ing love it. They both leave. I ****ing love it.

 

[#HBC | Joker]

Null on him.

I can believe he couldn't get a screen-cap working and him being hesitant to even quote his role PM is him being skeptical of how this worked for a Zen game.

i wasn't hesitant to post my role pm, i literally was the second person to do so.

 

[#HBC | Joker]

nah,

vote: soup

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

Oh my ****ing god. Oh. My. ****ing. God.

 

[Kantrip]

If you're going to use Mafia lingo, use it in a correct context. Tunneling implies that I'm not listening to any sort of logic and that I am not looking at the other person's argument. I was looking at it, in fact, I was imploring it. Do you think, maybe, I just wanted Red Ryu to talk more instead of going on about some fake guilty I knew was ****, and if there was a possibility that if it was real, I could get something out of him? No? You're right. Let's never question anything again. Let's just let people gambit for ****ty reasons.

lol I didn't even use the word tunneling wut. That was Ruy you ******

 

[Kantrip]

soup you really need to take a break from mafia. Like real talk. Not because you're playing bad, but because you're blowing up about everything lately and I'm scared for your mental health

 

[Kantrip]

I'm reminded of BiM soup right now. Played like absolute balls early game as scum, got called out, and proceeded to be a ****.

GG

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

I'm not playing balls here. You're both being incredibly dense.

How the hell can you say:

" Not because you're playing bad,"

Then the very next post

"I'm reminded of BiM soup right now. Played like absolute balls early game as scum, got called out, and proceeded to be a ****."

Do you think logically? Is there any living brain cells in there? Your reasoning on me is awful and you know it. Red Ryu's reasoning is awful and you know it. You make it sound like I haven't pointed this out already and instead of actually I don't know responding you hide behind the ideal of some crappy meta and that I'm angry. I'm not angry.

 

[Kantrip]

angry meta isn't why you're scum
you're playing bad like you did in BiM but again, not why you're scum
nice try

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

My reasoning doesn't suck.

You treated me very consciously differently in the span of under 15 minutes or so. You asked some questions, I shall get to that in a sec.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

"Inconsistent."

Please, look at yourself. Look at your posting. Look at my reason. No, seriously, give it a good look. Did you miss the part where I wanted you to do more? What about the part where you got something out of it? Swords is no longer guilty. You're a dirty liar. Wonderful. Tell me why you did it. What's your read on Swords? Why Swords? What do you think of Potassium changing his vote so easily?

1) Ok, but you focused dead hard on my Sworddancer role PM stuff. You didn't ask me for any kind of read nor any kind of info other than what I provided for you. You did nothing yourself.

2) I found you as scum. Which is what I was looking for.

3) Why ask me why I did it, it's blatantly obvious this is just like Ryker mafia where Zen found you for asking an obvious question. I was getting reads.

4) I rolled a D20, literally.

5) Fine right now.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Oh and Swords is a null.

 

[#HBC | Joker]

I'm a little lost as to what you're arguing PJB.

You would agree with me that due to rule 3 posting screen shots without time stamps wouldn't really be indicative of anyone's alignment, right?

Thus why would Zen have rule 3 if Zen sent people fake claims at the beginning? Why not just let people post time stamps? I know that we can't outguess the mod, but I'll still like to hear you're alternative explanation.

This post actually got totally missed by me.

My answer to this is "beats the hell outta me." I dunno why he'd have rule 3 under any circumstance. Like, you're arguing "why would he disallow time stamps if scum had fake claims", but why would he disallow them if scum didn't have fake claims? Beats the hell outta me.

 

[No Hetero]

[Insert homoerotic opening paragraph that I'm not up to making right now here.]

soupy, what was your thought process behind asking everyone to roleclaim. What does that accomplish for Town other than telling the scumteam, "Hey, here's all of our power roles. Please **** us accordingly."? Not even I want to take it like that right out the gate

Why even start off the game with a focus on role pms? Why couldn't scum just change their role pm to reflect the sample one? Didn't marshy's play in Deadpool come to mind when you posted this AKA posting role pms is a complete waste of ****ing time? Also, chill. Your jumpiness is something I've seen from you regardless of alignment, just annoying and I'm kind of tired of lynching you D1 in every game because you flip **** off trivial matters and get yourself killed.

Speaking of which...Kantrip. Your vote on soup is purely off meta?

PJB, what is disgusting about Kantrip voting you? [P123] I'm curious as to why you are so quick to vote alongside him now and did nothing to pursue something you supposedly found questionable.

 

[#HBC | Joker]

His vote was based on weak reasoning. Like, he thought I was scum because I don't think Gheb is cleared, and I think Gheb's insistence that he's cleared is suspicious. I feel like I'm being totally reasonable, and Kantrip going against all reason is just ewww to me.

Also, I'm voting for soupy because watching him combust like this has gone beyond the point where I'm concerned for him. He's either flailing scum, or he's town that's just going to continue to be a distraction. Being rid of him is fine by me, either way.

 

[No Hetero]

Gheb: Feelin' dumb or scum with regards to PB&J's early dislike of you?

Red Ruy: Any thoughts on Kantplay?

Orboknown: Hello.

Swordprancer.: Have you taken anything from Red Ruy vs. soup?

Sucks that Zen started this on a weekend. How I hate their effect on a game's flow.

Request votecount and that one be posted as close to the top of each page (40ppp) as the moderator can handle.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Terrible read so far.

Gheb: Feelin' dumb or scum with regards to PB&J's early dislike of you?

Neither.

Unvote Vote Kantrip

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

soupy, what was your thought process behind asking everyone to roleclaim. What does that accomplish for Town other than telling the scumteam, "Hey, here's all of our power roles. Please **** us accordingly."? Not even I want to take it like that right out the gate

Why even start off the game with a focus on role pms? Why couldn't scum just change their role pm to reflect the sample one? Didn't marshy's play in Deadpool come to mind when you posted this AKA posting role pms is a complete waste of ****ing time? Also, chill. Your jumpiness is something I've seen from you regardless of alignment, just annoying and I'm kind of tired of lynching you D1 in every game because you flip **** off trivial matters and get yourself killed.

I really think people misread what I'm trying to do. Just because I swear and I push something, doesn't mean I'm angry about it. I didn't like Red Ryu's gambit. I thought it was absolutely pointless and I wanted him to stop. There's literally that's all there is to it. I don't know why I'm being scrutinized for this. I'm being grilled over something so inane that It boggles my damn mind. What does it mind you that I didn't like RR's gambit, and I proceeded to push him on it? I want information. Pushing people is a means of doing that. I can get people to give me what I want. Is this clear?

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

1) Ok, but you focused dead hard on my Sworddancer role PM stuff. You didn't ask me for any kind of read nor any kind of info other than what I provided for you. You did nothing yourself.

2) I found you as scum. Which is what I was looking for.

3) Why ask me why I did it, it's blatantly obvious this is just like Ryker mafia where Zen found you for asking an obvious question. I was getting reads.

4) I rolled a D20, literally.

5) Fine right now.

1) What? I just ****ing asked you yesterday and you proceeded to vote me instead and say how I'm obvious scum for calling you out. I did..nothing myself? Am I reading this? You want me to be ****ing calm when I read something like this? You thought I was angry? I'm angry now. You literally are trying to say that me pushing you is doing nothing. That I wasn't trying to get anything out of it. First off, I really want to say hurtful and mean things about you. Second off, pointing the finger back at me doesn't seem townie at all for you. Do you really think, as scum, that I would even ****ing care about your Sword guilty? Why the **** would I care about some fool making himself look like even more of a fool? Did you answer me yet?

2) No. You're lying. Lmfao. You seriously can't tell me that was your intention. I really think you're full of ****. I really, really, think you're full of ****. Tell me how me pushing on your gambit is in anyway scum. Tell me my intention. If you can't do that, sit the **** down.

3) Okay. What reads did you get?

4) A D20? Uhhhh....Okay.

5) Fine now? Why?

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

My reasoning doesn't suck.

You treated me very consciously differently in the span of under 15 minutes or so. You asked some questions, I shall get to that in a sec.

No I didn't. How can you believe what you're typing? I gave you a chance to convince me but you didn't. That's it. You didn't convince me. You were lying through your teeth.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

angry meta isn't why you're scum
you're playing bad like you did in BiM but again, not why you're scum
nice try

Get to the ****ing point.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

Kantplay contradicts himself:

I'm reminded of BiM soup right now. Played like absolute balls early game as scum, got called out, and proceeded to be a ****.

GG

angry meta isn't why you're scum
you're playing bad like you did in BiM but again, not why you're scum
nice try

"I'm reminding of BiM Soup right now. He played badly."

"You're playing bad like you were in BiM, but that isn't why you're scum."

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