Mini Game | Werewolves win

[ThatSmasherYouKnow]

I know, it was mostly a joke. ¯(ツ)/¯

 

[GreenReaperGod]

'I've been on Smasher's case since Day 1, both in game and in real life.' Mostly a joke. Also, trap? Does that mean you are admitting you are scum?

No, not at all. I've said this before, but I do believe you're scum. There is, however, a feeling in the back of my head that you might be a noob. My plan was that

1. I'd be able to get what I wanted to say about you might being a noob out.
2. If you did say I was a town lean, I'd know for sure that you were scum.

 

[Spak]

No, not at all. I've said this before, but I do believe you're scum. There is, however, a feeling in the back of my head that you might be a noob. My plan was that

1. I'd be able to get what I wanted to say about you might being a noob out.
2. If you did say I was a town lean, I'd know for sure that you were scum.

How would him having you as a town lean mean he's scum? That just means that he thinks you're trying to act in the town's best interests.

 

[GreenReaperGod]

How would him having you as a town lean mean he's scum? That just means that he thinks you're trying to act in the town's best interests.

I would interpret it as him trying to get on my good side, as there's no other reason for him to list me as a town lean.

 

[Spak]

I would interpret it as him trying to get on my good side, as there's no other reason for him to list me as a town lean.

Fair enough, but wouldn't he have given reasons for his reads along with the reads themselves?

On another note, Brass Monkey is just too catchy.

 

[GreenReaperGod]

Fair enough, but wouldn't he have given reasons for his reads along with the reads themselves?

On another note, Brass Monkey is just too catchy.

What (good) reason would he give? I haven't done any major town-ish activities that would outweigh the few mistakes I've made. That's why I set up the trap in the first place, hoping to get some town cred.

 

[Kaladin]

Regarding TSYK

Uh, I'm confused. You liked Spak's post about accidental D1 lynching, so I'm assuming you agreed with him. What other reason would you vote for him?

-___- Don't trust anyone.

Hmm, I really don't know who to trust anymore. I have two suspicious people, but I'm not so sure.

This exchange paints him as scum in my eyes.

Unvote

Vote: *Generic* Has more votes, might as well help out. Still keeping an eye on Spak though.

Bandwagon, but could be noobiness.

Okay, let me just state something. All my posts before the 'You so sure about that?' were just me trying to figure out how the game works. As RadRat stated, he guessed I am Town. With my reply, all of you were super fast to think I was scum. RadRat isn't the only one who can lay traps you know? So, I'm guessing RadRat and KingofKoopas are both Mafia. Rad has been making a lot of accusations, which might be pulling the attention away from him and KingofKoopas was just as quick to change his opinion on me being town. They're both voting for me to get one more town out of the way.

Well, we know that's untrue. Interestingly, TSYK was one of the first to attack Rat.

Well, like I said, I was mostly analyzing, seeing how the whole game works, I tried to bandwagon a bit to see if it would arise any suspicion, which it did. So, I decided to lay my trap. I can't really convince you I'm town, but I hope this'll work. I am trying to stay alive, so hopefully that's good enough? Hopefully.

dumb

I am doing it to prevent my death. You are doing it to avoid becoming suspicious. You even said it just now. You put the attention on Koopa before anyone even dared to question you.

super scummy

He doesn't suspect anyone, but knew someone would at some point.

meh

If I was on a scum team, they would be feeding me information. I've been trying my best to prove my innocence, but none of you seem to believe me, I voted against Generic towards the beginning, so why would we be working together. He would have told me to keep my vote on him if we were working together. Anyways, gtg for about 30 minutes.

hmmmm interesting point

So, I am getting town lean from Slick, he seems to be Town, but again, we'll have to see.. I get a lot of scum read from Generic and Rat, especially because they seem to be working together. I know certain events have put me in bad light, but I want to act for the good of the town. As for Kary, slight scum read, but not a lot. Rosa might be town, but Rosa has not been active a lot. Spak, slight town lean, and everyone else I feel neutral about.

We know he was wrong about Kary and Rat, and I know he's wrong about me... But that does't mean much.

So, you don't think I am contributing much but are framing RadRat as scum? Wasn't I the one who contributed a little to that? Anyways, I noticed people saying my 'trap' was nonsense, because the town would jump on that situation. But answer me this: If you were scum, would you openly make yourself suspicious?

hmmmmmmmm

That's enough of that for right now. My brain says TSYK is scum, but I'm afraid he's just a noob. I want to thoroughly investigate Zalak and Spak before we do any lynchinh, however.

 

[Spak]

I want to thoroughly investigate Zalak and Spak before we do any lynchinh, however.

That seems to be the general concencus about me today. Still waiting for J's questions, but feel free to ask anything you want; I'm off to bed, but will respond to any questions sometime tomorrow. Also, please tag/quote me when you want me to answer something. It makes life a lot easier for the both of us.

 

[#HBC | J]

Sparky, I want to know who is your exact scum-read. I'm also trying to look at your play for scum-hunting and I am not seeing anything that resembles that. Your intent just feels....off.

 

[#HBC | J]

@ ThatSmasherYouKnow : May I ask why you named quite the large amount of scum-reads, yet your vote is no where to be seen? Why are you not voting/questioning who you believe is scum?

*kicks rock*

I'm against the Generic push and feel it is really stretchy @ Zalak .

 

[Zalak]

I'm against the Generic push and feel it is really stretchy @ Zalak .

alright then, what do YOU think of Generic?

 

[Zalak]

@ GreenReaperGod @ Spak @ ThatSmasherYouKnow @RosalinaSGS @ TheKingofKoopas @ #HBC | Red Ryu

It would be cool to hear your opinions on Generic as well (after you read my accusation though pls).

 

[Spak]

Here is mynlong analysis:

I've got Bouncing Off The Walls stuck in my head... Thanks, Sugarcult.

Anyways, my reads. So far, I haven't gotten much on J (because illness, but slight town lean because I've liked his content thus far) or Ryu (because he joined more recently and his slot didn't post much before Ryu came), but those are excusable inactivates. I've also not seen much scummy intent from Green and don't see why Kary is pushing so hard off of one tiny post that didn't even look that suspicious to me. He might have been trying to pressure Green because of his inactivity, but it seemed like a fruitless push from the get-go. Kary also seemed super-agressive to me early-game and then tried to slow down with his content later (is getting the ball speeding down the hill a role of the IC?) seemed a bit scummy to me, so he is a slight scum lean to me (but close to town).

Zalak seems to have mostly good advice, but could be using the tutoring-status of semi-experienced and being "helpful" as a disguise for scummy intent. He's a town lean because I have nothing on him so far, but I'm keeping my eye on him. TSYK has little experience in this game (as exemplified from all of his posts D1), tries to defend himself, stops trying and leaves for a while, and comes back acting like nothing happened. At the moment, he seems the most scummy out of everyone because of failing pretty much every defense and making himself look bad even when attention isn't on him (presumably to generate content?).

Generic seems to be trying too hard to have scumhunting intent and it scares me that he's taken control over the game's pacing. He's generated a decent amount of content (but his post count is WAY high in comparison to the amount he has created), RadR and Generic were all buddy-buddy until one of them got to look a bit suspicious and then they turned on each-other (which we know they can't be scum buddies now, but it is still profitable to scum for either a town to die or to make some friends), and has been liking posts like a madman since the start of D1 (and slowed down when someone mentioned it). There are quite a few red flags there and I have a gut feeling that he's a bit scummy, but I don't want to lynch him yet; there are bigger fish to fry posting habits that appear scummy may be genuine, and to be honest, lynches based on not much more than gut feelings can do more harm than good.

I've liked Slick so far this game other than the whole "if you're town tell us now" thing with RadR (that looked like he had role knowledge beyond that of a townie). Town lean.

My Koops analysis hasn't really changed since last summery. Slight scum lean, but still not top on the priority list.

Did I forget anyone?

And to summarize, my read list is:
Scum lean: TSYK, Generic, Koops (slight)
Null: Green (closest null to scum), J, Ryu
Town: Slick, Zalak, Rosa

Anyone I'm leaving out?

 

[Spak]

*my long

*quietly weeps*

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Newbie Tip:

A "mislynch" [the common term for the lynch of a townie] is not a rare occurence on Day 1 and should not discourage you - neither as the lynched player nor as one of the players responsible for the lynch. While a mislynch does help the anti-town fractions getting closer to fulfilling their win condition a smart townie with good deduction skills can gain new information from a player's flip and use it to the town's advantage. So while a mislynch on Day 1 obviously isn't as good as a correct lynch, a wise town can make up for the loss rather easily.

~~~​

Votecount:

Voted | Voters | Votes
ThatSmasherYouKnow | SlickWylde, Spak, *GenericHandle* | 3 / 6
Spak | #HBC J | 1 / 6
*GenericHandle* | Zalak | 1 / 6

Not voting: GreenReaperGod, RosalinaSGS, Red Ryu, ThatSmasherYouKnow, TheKingofKoopas

 

[SlickWylde]

Okay, I give points to everyone who's brave enough to at least place a vote. Every time you vote, you're taking a chance. Rosalina and RedRyu I give a slight pass to because they legit seem busy, but I've seen quite a few posts from ThatSmasher, TheKingOfKoopas, and GreenReaperGod on day 2, and still they haven't voted.

You guys waiting for a sign? If you're so scared to vote because you may get it wrong, and people might accuse you, then you don't have faith that you can defend yourself. It's part of the game. Show your opinion, and put some conviction behind it. If you just keep saying "Well xx might be guilty" we're never going to get anywhere.

If you ARE town and nobody ever accuses you, that means you're going to be killed at night most likely, or neither of the scum teams even views you as a threat, because you never help root out scum. Do something! Be something! Say something! (Picture added for levity, since I always seem so serious)

 

[TheKingofKoopas]

Three Mafia Buddies: Slick, KingofKoopas,Green Reaper: I don't know if it's just me, but it seems like these three have been communicating with each other way too much. It's probably more of a lean though.

Can you show me the posts that show we're communicating too much? Unless I've ONLY been talking to them, I don't see that as a problem. At all.

Koopa, my ? for you was more about your reads. However, since you gave a lot, I have a new question. Regarding the wagon on you, who looks the most scummiest to you? Who looked like opportunistic scum hopping on an easy wagon? Who looked towny on your wagon? What I would like is for you to dissect your wagon and main opponents against you.

So, I'm going to say that there were two main people leading the "koopakraze" as everyone's calling it. Generic, and Rat. Everyone else pretty much responded that it was scummy and nothing else, but those two specifically voted for me because of it.
Generic did most of the leading and honestly, I understand why it was scummy, but I find it weird how you were certain I was scum because I was "twisting words".
I'll get to more in a few hours. Bleh.

 

[SlickWylde]

Can you show me the posts that show we're communicating too much? Unless I've ONLY been talking to them, I don't see that as a problem. At all.


So, I'm going to say that there were two main people leading the "koopakraze" as everyone's calling it. Generic, and Rat. Everyone else pretty much responded that it was scummy and nothing else, but those two specifically voted for me because of it.
Generic did most of the leading and honestly, I understand why it was scummy, but I find it weird how you were certain I was scum because I was "twisting words".
I'll get to more in a few hours. Bleh.

Where did he say he was sure you were scum? I only looked on the last two pages and didn't see it, is it further back?

Also, are you voting for someone?

 

[GreenReaperGod]

@ #HBC | Red Ryu

Will you be able to post soon? I've got some questions.

 

[TheKingofKoopas]

TSYK is probably scum, but further observations are required to be sure.

RR is close, but townie lean because his specific observations have been sound/not openly deceptive.

Koopa is scum.

Kary is close, but scum lean.

Zalak is close, but scum lean.

Other thoughts?

You're still scum, but I agree on this point.

Just things like that.
Basically, Gen seemed the weirdest. He said I was twisting the words of someone who was clearly acting town when I gave a possibility, and it snow balled from there. Rat seemed like he was just joining the wagon, but he's flipped town. Everyone else had the same reaction of saying it was scummy and then setting their attention on TSYK.

Right now, everyone just has me as slight scum lean or null.

 

[GreenReaperGod]

Vote: @ ThatSmasherYouKnow

-Can you post some examples of Koopa, Slick, and I communicating with each other? Is that the only reason you have us listed as mafia?
-Additionally, what investigating/scum-hunting have you done thus far? You seem to make a lot of accusations but don't really follow them up.

 

[Zalak]

@ #HBC | Red Ryu

Will you be able to post soon? I've got some questions.

will you be able to ANSWER MY QUESTION???

@ GreenReaperGod @ Spak @ ThatSmasherYouKnow @RosalinaSGS @ TheKingofKoopas @ #HBC | Red Ryu

It would be cool to hear your opinions on Generic as well (after you read my accusation though pls).

also @ Spak and @ TheKingofKoopas

 

[#HBC | J]

@ Zalak , I disagree with your Generic push because I have him as a town-lean which I have stated earlier.

 

[Kaladin]

@ Zalak , I disagree with your Generic push because I have him as a town-lean which I have stated earlier.

That's not an answer. J, you seem really shifty to me. FoS: J

 

[SlickWylde]

That's not an answer. J, you seem really shifty to me. FoS: J

I mean, he IS wearing a hoodie... so... (obviously making a joke, everyone).

What do you think about Koopa and Greenreaper, and how they keep posting but not voting?

 

[Spak]

I agree with Zalak's analysis. Someone that is really self-conscious of himself is suspicious... Something like this happened in Star Trek once upon a time... A shapeshifiting telepathic creature impersonated Captain Picard and impersonated him for the whole episode.

@ Kaladin ARE YOU A SHAPESHIFTING TELEPATHIC CREATURE!?! WHERE'S THE REAL GENERIC AND WHAT DID YOU DO WITH HIM?

All joking aside, I think everything was accurate until the last thing you quoted. He didn't need a shield to hide behind in order to lynch Rad, he claimed he was scum himself. Also, if anything that last post was more to buddy up to you so you might not see as much of his scummy side.

 

[#HBC | J]

If you find Generic scummy, Spak, then why are you on the same wagon as him for TSYK?

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

That Smasher you know is my current scum pick right now.

A lot of what I read screams self preservation but that being more of a priority at points, but then seems to call others out on it as well.

Seems like he knows he has to look for another scum team but seems to display qualities of a lot of that. This does look like legit scum right now, nothing else sticks that strongly out because newbie game.

:/

Gonna go for questions then to learn.

@ #HBC | J Give me your top picks right now. Who should I trust other than maybe Zalak, I kind of liked his effort he has put forward.

 

[Spak]

If you find Generic scummy, Spak, then why are you on the same wagon as him for TSYK?

Because I find TSYK more scummy.

 

[#HBC | J]

@ #HBC | J Give me your top picks right now. Who should I trust other than maybe Zalak, I kind of liked his effort he has put forward.

Trust should probably go towards myself and I'd throw a bone to Generic. I'm also starting to like Slick the more he posts, but maybe that's just because he's being level-headed and logical. *shrug*

I don't really trust Zalak as much as others do. I find his pushes almost to the degree of that scummer who is "look at me! I'm so obv town!" instead of actual town. I get bad vibes from Zalak.

I agree with the sentiment against TSYK and would probably lean towards lynching him toDay, but I would also probably look at lynching one of Spak/Zalak being the natural hipster I am and wanting to turn the game on it's head. I do not think I could swing those lynches toDay so I am sitting waiting for TSYK come in and post some defense. I have my eye on Koopa as well.

Having to find 4 scum literally means the scum-pool is so huge and meh. Too many targets, not enough votes/lynches.

 

[#HBC | J]

With 9 people *discluding myself* and 4 of them being scum, I could literally sneeze and bump into a scummer.

 

[Spak]

With 9 people *discluding myself* and 4 of them being scum, I could literally sneeze and bump into a scummer.

I'm pretty sure that there are still 5 scum. So you're saying there are 4 scum if you're discluding yourself? Interesting.

 

[#HBC | J]

Haha! I just checked the set-up and saw that there are 3 mafia members. Welp gg me.

 

[Spak]

but I would also probably look at lynching one of Spak/Zalak being the natural hipster I am and wanting to turn the game on it's head. I do not think I could swing those lynches toDay so I am sitting waiting for TSYK come in and post some defense.

Also, are you willing to take that risk? I'm not sure about Zalak, but if you lynch me and then WW gets in a NK on another townie then we'd be down to three and pretty screwed.

Why did I just say "we"? I'm not even positive you're town.

 

[#HBC | J]

Well if you have doubts about my alignment (Or anyone's for that matter) pressuring that slot with a vote or questions to help you determine what their alignment is to you is a grand idea.

Ask me questions, follow my story, and see if it warrants a vote.

#ICStatus

Anywhos, I am dwelling on what I want to do for toDay. My vote is fine on you because it is generating discussion between our two slots and also doesn't hurt since I am the only vote on you and TSYK has plenty of votes currently.

 

[#HBC | J]

Here's a hypothetical I am operating under:

I feel Generic is town. Zalak's push on Generic looks bad. If Generic flips town like I believe, Zalak will look bad. If Generic flips scum, then I will feel better on Zalak and wouldn't push that avenue.

Hopefully that is more clear.

 

[Kaladin]

Here's a hypothetical I am operating under:

I feel Generic is town. Zalak's push on Generic looks bad. If Generic flips town like I believe, Zalak will look bad. If Generic flips scum, then I will feel better on Zalak and wouldn't push that avenue.

Hopefully that is more clear.

Why exactly do you feel Zalak is scum? I still have a gut feeling about him that I'm ignoring because logic says so, but maybe my gut is correct.

 

[#HBC | J]

Talk to me about your gut.

My feeling on Zalak is mainly based off my gut and my general distaste for his posts. I don't really have much evidence to cite besides his push against your slot which is why I am not pursuing it at this juncture. I'm just making it known I distrust that slot and I do not think others should be blindly accepting him as town as many have already stated.

 

[#HBC | J]

May I ask why a lot of players have also sorted Rosa into their town-reads? Like how do you have a town-read on a slot that is literally #2 in the most inactive category?

People who have Rosa as town need to explain that rationale.

 

[Spak]

Also @ #HBC | J , being called Sparky surprised me a bit because Sparkler67 was my username for everything online from Neopets in 2004 to LoL in 2013 before I figured out a solid, legit gamertag in late 2013 (and have been using Spak ever since). Feel free to call me either

Anyways, the above analysis looks decently solid. Right now you test town in pretty much every category, but I can assure you you aren't the doc because of how long you were V/LA from sickness (THIS IS A JOKE JUST LIKE VOTING MAVEN FOR BEING TOO IMPATIENT (OH WAIT THAT GAME'S STILL GOING) DON'T LYNCH ME BECAUSE I TRIED TO FUNNY). You seem a bit hellbent to connect Zalak with numerous individuals (Is it just a gut feeling or do you have a post you can reference with scummy connective subtext?), but other than that I've seen lots of scumhunting intent from you.